VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

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resgar

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So, do we all agree, that The Biggest Threat to MC, to Earth and to whole humanity actually is Jessica? And joke about "The Pink Terror" actually is not a joke.

Well, that was a good one. How do i live with this information in waiting for next update now?
 

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While I think the major problem is this is entirely in context and knowing what's going on, a massively stupid decision on her part, but I also think she's incredibly naive. She blindly wants to forgive the lying her parents did and it takes her to this very chapter to figure out that one of the main reasons you flip out at them (if you go full rage mode) is your girlfriend is an agent of theirs. She's like "oh shit, I never thought about that" because of course she didn't. She's a young naive girl in college. At this point you've been with K for years. YEARS. Its even brought up with your father and she misses it completely. She was never attacked like you were in the beginning so she's still just coasting through everything. She just thinks a magical world was hidden from her like she's some YA heroine and she's not aware of the danger. The only downside is them pretending she's also really smart. She clearly isn't or at least lacks the wisdom or common sense to make it actually matter.
 
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I liked the update but the mc and mc's dad keep annoying me and jess now started to do the same ... the whole family seems to kinda suck.

MC is so enraged he ... goes to his fake work and on camping trips and does fuck all otherwise.

The whole jess thing is so confusing, i kinda hope someone fucked with her mind.

Because otherwise ... WHAT?!

She goes partying to neverwhere during a war. Ok. Am i supposed to perceive her as mentally challanged?

And ... a friend of her roommate knows the tunnels? The secret passages to neverwhere? A random friend? I mean either she doesnt have to wonder anymore whos the templar observing her (and he/she would do a SHIT job doing that in this case lol) or ... dunno ... random friends of friends know neverwhere and it comes up in random conversations?

This whole part was so strange, i hope there will be a explanation and things arent this simple.
Exactly my thoughts, or her roomate is a compromised Templar.
 

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I liked the update but the mc and mc's dad keep annoying me and jess now started to do the same ... the whole family seems to kinda suck.

MC is so enraged he ... goes to his fake work and on camping trips and does fuck all otherwise.

The whole jess thing is so confusing, i kinda hope someone fucked with her mind.

Because otherwise ... WHAT?!

She goes partying to neverwhere during a war. Ok. Am i supposed to perceive her as mentally challanged?

And ... a friend of her roommate knows the tunnels? The secret passages to neverwhere? A random friend? I mean either she doesnt have to wonder anymore whos the templar observing her (and he/she would do a SHIT job doing that in this case lol) or ... dunno ... random friends of friends know neverwhere and it comes up in random conversations?

This whole part was so strange, i hope there will be a explanation and things arent this simple.
Again, for those missing the obvious, see my previous post and it's stated very plainly in game, in text, by Jess, she does not want to accept what is and refuses to deal with the situation.

Her head is intentionally in the sand. Annoying as fuck? Yes....explains her actions...also yes.
 

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Again, for those missing the obvious, see my previous post and it's stated very plainly in game, in text, by Jess, she does not want to accept what is and refuses to deal with the situation.

Her head is intentionally in the sand. Annoying as fuck? Yes....explains her actions...also yes.
True we discussed this topic already after chapter 5 iirc, I (and RNasc may forgive me) think Jessicas IQ is 10 (normal toast bread has an IQ of 25) sum that up to her naive character, and teenage carelessness and you have the recipe for disaster.
She could also have been possesed, which would explain quite a few things.
My hunch is Fionas family but it is just a wild guess atm.
 

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Jess is immature. It's all fun and games for her. She had a shadow too, it seems, and that shadow took her to Neverwhere and either because of drinking too much or because of betrayal, left her there, since there is a bounty out for her and her brother.
 
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This reminds me that I have to thank you, my Kajia save was corrupted and I had to redo it from the beginning. Thanks!
My non-cannon save, which I use to check all scenes that don't trigger in my main playthrough, was also fucked. I loaded the previous version again, saved a few renders ahead and it loaded fine in the new version. Easier than redoing the whole thing.
It's actually very easy, just see the two factions as children throwing tantrums and you're the only adult in the room XD
I used crayon-chewing retards for that analogy but that works two. Or 2 monkeys slinging shit at each other. It doesn't matter how much lore the dev adds, their conflict still makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
The whole jess thing is so confusing, i kinda hope someone fucked with her mind.
The character was completely butchered in this update, imo. I think she's actually beyond redemption for me at this point. It is physically painful to watch her be self aware for a few seconds with the whole Kaija and parents betrayal of the MC only to devolve back into a mentally challenged child by the end of the update. Brutally disappointing to watch.
True we discussed this topic already after chapter 5 iirc, I (and RNasc may forgive me) think Jessicas IQ is 10
No argument from me there :(
I can't defend that character any further. I'm done with her ass.

Sadly this only further confirms to me that as much as I like this game and want to know where it goes, it absolutely has the most unlikable and unbeareable characters I've seen in an AVN. Goddamn it :mad:
 

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Maviarab; how do I get "soft side" achievement, do I have been with Helena at the bar for this one ??
In the office, second conversation with Helen (after the walk with Elea) you need [HelnProf >=7] in order to get an extra scene and the achievement.
 

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In the office, econd conversation with Helen (after the walk with Elea) you need [HelnProf >=7] in order to get an extra scene and the achievement.
Ughh I just hope I find my "Manwhore" save then thanks a lot !
 

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Ughh I just hope I find my "Manwhore" save then thanks a lot !
Very difficult to do a save like that in this. Helena blocks Anissa, Anissa and Fiona block each other (though if play points right you should still be able to get a cabin invite from Fi even if chose Anissa), Kari blocks Kate, Elea blocks Fiona and vice-versa....there is only Medb's path you can stay on (still not flagged) that does not block anyone else (yet) as well as Kaija.

I have a specific Helena/Kari save and Anissa/Kari and Anissa/Kate saves. They are all side girls so no ending...but they my not-main girl LI saves.
 
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Very difficult to do a save like that in this. Helena blocks Anissa, Anissa and Fiona block each other (though if play points right you should still be able to get a cabin invite from Fi even if chose Anissa), Kari blocks Kate, Elea blocks Fiona and vice-versa....there is only Medb's path you can stay on (still not flagged) that does not block anyone else (yet).

I have a specific Helena/Kari save and Anissa/Kari and Anissa/Kate saves. They are all side girls so no ending...but they my not-main girl LI saves.
It's just a label, so I know that in that one I pursue side LI's , it is in the office when I have to decide with whom I go to the pub
 
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Fiona best girl and I was glad to get some more Fiona content this update. Getting some Succubus vibes from her but maybe following folklore a possible Dearg-due? (basically a Vampiric succubus that seduces their victim then drains them of their blood instead of the lifeforce through love juice) Would be interesting. The way she talks about her family, and how she has a bit of noble air about her, and strong familial ties/control factors, etc kind of gives off that kind of vampire-vibe.
The more I think about Fiona, the more I think about something vampiric too, that would explain many things if her family is involved in the war.

Very interesting short video about the legend of Dearg Due
 
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The more I think about Fiona, the more I think about something vampiric too, that would explain many things if her family is involved in the war.

Very interesting short video about the legend of Dearg Due
She talks about blood and destruction and burning villages in Ireland. Maybe she’s just English.

Edit: Family = House of Windsor
 
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The character was completely butchered in this update, imo. I think she's actually beyond redemption for me at this point. It is physically painful to watch her be self aware for a few seconds with the whole Kaija and parents betrayal of the MC only to devolve back into a mentally challenged child by the end of the update. Brutally disappointing to watch.
I agree. It started good, with Jess finally realising why MC was asshole to their parent (my main save is fuck templars and parents). Then she wanted to go clubbing in Neverwhere, even if she had to go alone? I get it, she's young, naive, impulsive but c'mon, that's almost suicidal
 

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Elea blocks Fiona and vice-versa....
Very, very minor correction, Elea does not block Fiona.
If you go to cinema with Fiona as Friend, then you get Elea date (ice-cream) where they meet, but Fiona says you're just friends.
In Act 6, you can start romance path with both...it will end up in disaster, sure, but it's romance path nonetheless.

Other than Kaija/Elea/Fiona romances save (because sometimes, all we want is to see world burn), the only "cheating" routes I have is on Kaija romance route.
Side girls are also a-ok on Kaija romance path (for me!), and Medb doesn't currently, as far as I know, have love-path trigger started, so my MC is dating any side girl he can.
No cheating on Elea, Fiona saves otherwise. Well, except Finn, but she won't tell anyone.
 
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I agree. It started good, with Jess finally realising why MC was asshole to their parent (my main save is fuck templars and parents). Then she wanted to go clubbing in Neverwhere, even if she had to go alone? I get it, she's young, naive, impulsive but c'mon, that's almost suicidal
Especially when MC said he’d go with her but then she just went ‘fuck it, I don’t need him’
 
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