Two things can be true I suppose. The elves kidnapped dad but didn't send the mercs after MC. Mom thinks they are tied but she could be wrong and they might not be.
Yeah you worded it better than me, fully agree.
Theres just such a huuuuuuge discrepancy between the way he talks (to his parents, to the templars, to the elves) like he is actually someone important (even before he got kinda legitimated with the sword) but follows up with nothing.
Which always kinda makes me feel understanding for the shitty people who dont take him serious, he feels more like a 15 year old to me when we talk about his maturity. I probably wouldnt take this guy serious too.
He just kinda lacks any kind of drive/ambition or whatever you want to call it. The only thing he did was stumbling into the elven realm (without any plan) and becoming/being discovered as a chosen one by cheer luck and utterly random circumstances.
And now when hes aware of him being special, he just does jackshit lol, like he waits for destiny to knock on his door again and hold his hand while guiding him towards the next possible course of action.
It would be fine (but annoying) if he would be supposed to be a more reserved kind of guy but his inactivity and lack of determination really clash badly with his self centered attitude.
I can understand that people are pissed at the parents but i will never understand how anyone can consider it reasonable HOW PISSED the mcs reacts while being in mortal danger and WHILE his dad is kept hostage and possibly dead. Its okay to cut them off but maybe after youre out of immediate danger and maaaaybe dont make it all about yourself while your dad is possibly going to die (even when dad is a utter fuckup).
I really have troubles with how incredibly self-centered and close to narcisstic the mc is while he is even (by sheer luck) the uber special chosen one YET DOES NOTHING USEFUL
edit: Thinking about it, the first thing the mc did after discovering neverwhere was to run alone to the elves, the parents probably knew that he's a moron and thats why they needed this scheme to keep him in the dark (which probably wasnt hard). Other kids apparently get indroctinated early, he was probably considered too stupid.
Yes, it's all true! The MC is stupid and immature and everything you guys already said. So what? The world is full of such people, some of them have managed to land on really important places and roles and do stupid things there,
Yes, thank you! Can't really agree more....
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Ceo has written a good story so far and I am hoping that, with chapters 7 & 8 in our hands, the pause in Ch 6 will look and feel different than it does now, with new information and background giving us perspective we cannot have without that content.
Cheers!!
Y'all must be a bunch of real life Jason Bourne's with the heart of Mother Theresa
Hero's journey? To hell with that! I'm going home.Y'all must be a bunch of real life Jason Bourne's with the heart of Mother Theresa
Had I just found out I've been lied to my whole life by my parents about the existence of other worlds and races and mythical swords and monsters, especially when having them as parents makes me an automatic target, I would have done everything but go into that world to help save my father. Let his Temptards deal with it. If you want me to do something, I'd gladly go to the nearest police station and explain the situation. Other than that you're on your own.
If it had been Jessica who was kidnapped? I'd move heaven and earth. She was as much in the dark as the MC. The parents? Fuck 'em!
What I would NOT DO IN A MILLION YEARS is risk my life or allow Jessica to risk hers, to save the lying parents.
If I have any criticisms of the MC, it would be that he is far too willing to go along with all the nonsense presented to him. I would 100% shun the parents and try my best to keep out of Neverwhere and everything related to it. I would hold onto everything that would give me a sense of normalcy. Especially my 9 to 5 boring job in the office!
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. It's a perfectly valid coping mechanism
I hope so too, but we're now 6 chapters in and the MC is as petulant as ever and even more disinterested in learning about the world than he was before! That's a colossal problem in my book.
Yes, Medb calls him out on it, but at the same time the game keeps validating him for it. The double standard is getting old, at least in my eyes. Maybe Chapter 7 will see the MC finally grow as a character; I'd certainly welcome that, but it's already one chapter late so there's a *lot* of ground to cover in a chapter that has more than enough on its plate in terms of worldbuilding.
Dude, you had a chance to throw in some fantasy, to tell that you're from a mafia family that "disappeared" one night, you had a friend Lilia, you got along with her... but wait, wrong thread... damn...
Personally the dad being templar for me is a no big deal, the part that makes Dad and Mom look very bad is that MC was raised in a glass prison, templar enforced GF, the job seems templarish too, the housing is also suspect, many aspect of a daily life seem forcibly molded to protect him from templar enemies.
Well he did try to learn more about templars but they aren't too terribly helpful. And he does go to elf land to learn the elven perspective on things. In a way, he cares more about learning the world than most in this game who are locked in their roles. He does complain quite a lot but from an outsiders perspective, or at least his outsider perspective, these cloak and dagger games are silly and do little to help matters so he gets frustrated with people who don't have a problem with them.
Hey to be fair everything was fine for the 20 something years they kept the existence of Neverwhere hidden from Alex. And all this was only revealed because the dumb Dad messed up and got himself caught and some Mercs were hired to kidnap the MC. If this didn't happen Alex could have gone into his 40's or 50's without even knowing anything. What then? Are you gonna fight a war and save the world with weak knees, a bad back and a beer belly?Hero's journey? To hell with that! I'm going home.
"RNasc! You have to journey to Neverwhere to save your father! You're the key to bring order to the realms!"
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MC asks her directly, in chapter 5 and she seems surprised, we don' t know who send the Mercs or the thugs from chapter 6
The poster girl for TNT also lied to the MC's face on more than one occasion, no rules prohibit the second girl from doing the same.
Sure sure, its just makes it a bit more annoying when youre making the decisions for dumb guy and feel partially responsible for his dumbnessYes, it's all true! The MC is stupid and immature and everything you guys already said. So what? The world is full of such people, some of them have managed to land on really important places and roles and do stupid things there,
some of them are just posting stupid things on F95. /looks in the mirror
This is just a story about one of them.
Does it make the story bad automatically? NO! Of course not! I know for sure that most of you agree.
The world is also full of stories about people even dumber, some stories even titled so. Some of them are so cringe, I can't even follow these stories, read the books or watch the movies.
Fortunately for me, this story is not this stupid nor cringe. It's readable, even more - interesting! Thank you, Ceo!
Yes, thank you! Can't really agree more.
I mean that would be fine too and more reasonable than the MC behaves. I dont expect him to be jason bourne immediatly, that was he himself. Hes just wishy washy switching between big talks and taking no action. No action and no big talks (like you suggested) would be fine(ish).Y'all must be a bunch of real life Jason Bourne's with the heart of Mother Theresa
Had I just found out I've been lied to my whole life by my parents about the existence of other worlds and races and mythical swords and monsters, especially when having them as parents makes me an automatic target, I would have done everything but go into that world to help save my father. Let his Temptards deal with it. If you want me to do something, I'd gladly go to the nearest police station and explain the situation. Other than that you're on your own.
If it had been Jessica who was kidnapped? I'd move heaven and earth. She was as much in the dark as the MC. The parents? Fuck 'em!
What I would NOT DO IN A MILLION YEARS is risk my life or allow Jessica to risk hers, to save the lying parents.
If I have any criticisms of the MC, it would be that he is far too willing to go along with all the nonsense presented to him. I would 100% shun the parents and try my best to keep out of Neverwhere and everything related to it. I would hold onto everything that would give me a sense of normalcy. Especially my 9 to 5 boring job in the office!
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. It's a perfectly valid coping mechanism
Thanks! My family and childhood were pretty much the same. Totally normal and happy. And I don't really know anyone personally (or well enough, maybe?), who has actually permanently abandoned their parents because of some quarrel or a lie, however huge.
Your tolerance is much higher than you seem to think. It is for most people.
I cannot speak for most people. I can, however, assure you that my tolerance could never be "lie to me for 20+ years about who I am and who you are while you let me walk around unaware that, because of who you are, I might have a target on my back and a random team of highly trained and armed mercenaries may come for me, as I stand unprepared and unaware of an existing threat" high.
Maybe so much dumber you would never believe as a kid.
The road to hell is paved with 'good intentions'.....doesn't mean they are actually are or were any good....
Sure it is. I haven't seen any real evidence though, that the parents are actually evil, were and are trying to damage their kids.
