VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

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Dessolos

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Then you don't leave on your own, you take all your loved one's with you. That wasn't why he was leaving. He was being stupid and immature and if the bad guys know where the house is, why would you stick your neck out the door? If you're in a house, you're harder to hit.

Your argument also doesn't track. He doesn't leave to find a "safer" place to hide, he leaves because he's butt hurt and he wants to go back to work. Which is an already compromised location.
wasn't trying to argue any of that other than the house isn't a safe option either so in my eyes it doesn't matter what he does both options aren't good choices.
 

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wasn't trying to argue any of that other than the house isn't a safe option either so in my eyes it doesn't matter what he does both options aren't good choices.
It's a good choice, it never gets attacked.
 

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It's a good choice, it never gets attacked.
eh would only be a matter of time since it's their family as far as I could tell. I would only stay there until the sun comes up and want to find a safer place. Doubt would take much effort for them if they really wanted him dead.
 

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eh would only be a matter of time since it's their family as far as I could tell. I would only stay there until the sun comes up and want to find a safer place. Doubt would take much effort for them if they really wanted him dead.
Funnily enough the Templars that so many are bad mouthing actually save the MC and fix the situation later with the kill squads.

If I'm in immediate danger and still figuring things out, the logical and composed thing to do is go with the people that just rescued you, are your family, and are giving you a place to hide while bullets are flying.
 

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Funnily enough the Templars that so many are bad mouthing actually save the MC and fix the situation later with the kill squads.

If I'm in immediate danger and still figuring things out, the logical and composed thing to do is go with the people that just rescued you, are your family, and are giving you a place to hide while bullets are flying.
Yeah I mean id stay with the family / Templars cause I know im dead on my own but I would do my best to get them to go to a safer location or something. I wouldn't feel safe in their family home even if they have Templars to guard the place. I'm not really pro Templars or Elfs yet not enough for me like or dislike to pick a side yet personally.
 

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Yeah I mean id stay with the family / Templars cause I know im dead on my own but I would do my best to get them to go to a safer location or something. I wouldn't feel safe in their family home even if they have Templars to guard the place. I'm not really pro Templars or Elfs yet not enough for me like or dislike to pick a side yet personally.
I think Fiona would be a safe place to stay. Although, my preference would be Elea, but I think Fiona would kick ass should the need arise.
 

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If it was a safe house or something id agree but a family house the MC grew up in id have to disagree because the enemy would be able to find that location easier and it doesn't look exactly safe and secure from an potential attack
Don't underestimate the 'burbs'....
 
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There are direct and expressly and positively laid out terms of engagement:
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Direct and unquestionable reason to head home: for example: Prof Exavier uses his mansion as a safe heaven for all mutants.
Lore friendly explanation: just like MiB - they hold a huge repository of artefacts that make them impossible to attack to kidnap and not do all out war; OmniMan wastes every last operative they send even if they blow his home up - the kidnappers need MC alive, so all out war is a no no.
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They pick a fight with a car, because they have a whole fleet of them to give chase. Going in the belly of the beast voids all their advantages from the road. Also there is no police, traffic or any town surveillance - thsi looks like the barren streets of Gotham when Joker and Batman give chase to each other. Lawless game setting is lawless.
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Hello Templars, Alfars and Bridgeburners!

I must make a little introduction, to set things right, for what I have to say after that...
This is my first post here, I am new to this Forum, this is the only thread that I watched, but I have read all that was posted here. All 605 pages!!!
I have played the game only once, on Steam, in july, doing a kinda Kaija lovely path, combined with Fiona romance+sex and side girls cheating. So, I still have to do those single path runs. But, I know everything what is happening in the game, from here and your... wars.
I am 51yo divorced straight male with no prejudices against LGBT, but fully aware of what geopolitical interests are behind the woke movement. I have bought the game on Steam, I have a Mercenary subscription on Patreon, which should tell you that I like the game quite a lot and that I dont talk like an ungratefull brat, who got the game for free. Also, I am not biased to any girl in this game, I like them all, be it their ”feminine” side, or their ”human” side. And I admire Ceolag for his... ambition, dedication, seriosity, profesionalism, creativity, imagination, talent! So, anything that I will say is out of love and with the only intention to help.
Still, there are few truths (my personal truths, ofc, Mav) that must be said (again) so that the ”dev” may be able to learn from his (beginner) mistakes. And I feel that these must be said now, before Chapter 7 is finished...
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Well, quite a wall of text. Sorry, no sorry! Truth must be said! Help must be offered! Is this just my personal truth, is it flawed? The choice is on the author field. And at the player, ofc...
 
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Hello Templars, Alfars and Bridgeburners!

I must make a little introduction, to set things right, for what I have to say after that...
This is my first post here, I am new to this Forum, this is the only thread that I watched, but I have read all that was posted here. All 605 pages!!!
I have played the game only once, on Steam, in july, doing a kinda Kaija lovely path, combined with Fiona romance+sex and side girls cheating. So, I still have to do those single path runs. But, I know everything what is happening in the game, from here and your... wars.
I am 51yo divorced straight male with no prejudices against LGBT, but fully aware of what geopolitical interests are behind the woke movement. I have bought the game on Steam, I have a Mercenary subscription on Patreon, which should tell you that I like the game quite a lot and that I dont talk like an ungratefull brat, who got the game for free. Also, I am not biased to any girl in this game, I like them all, be it their ”feminine” side, or their ”human” side. And I admire Ceolag for his... ambition, dedication, seriosity, profesionalism, creativity, imagination, talent! So, anything that I will say is out of love and with the only intention to help.
Still, there are few truths that must be said (again) so that the ”dev” may be able to learn from his (beginner) mistakes. And I feel that these must be said now, before Chapter 7 is finished...
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Well, quite a wall of text. Sorry, no sorry! Thruth must be said! Help must be offered! The choice is on the author field. And at the player, ofc...
First section. Really good post. Then you had to ruin it with your essayed spoiler (and btw, please, use a space break betweeen your points, it's godamn painful to try and read through).

I cannot disagree more with the vast majority of your spoilered opinions (MC looks aside), and that is what they are, opinions. At your age, you should know the difference between an opinion, a fact and opinion stated as fact masquerading as some 'truth'.

He is not your age or even my age (I'm older), he is still very young in the reality of things, more than half your age...so I think some leeway is majorly warranted when your entire godamn world burns to the ground and everything you believed to be true (or myth), you suddenly find out isn't and realise people very close to you have lied to you all your life and one has betrayed your trust completely.

For that, give the MC some slack.
 
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Cicattrix

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First section. Really good post. Then you had to ruin it with your essayed spoiler (and btw, please, use a space break betweeen your points, it's godamn painful to try and read through).

I cannot disagree more with the vast majority of your spoilered opinions (MC looks aside), and that is what they are, opinions. At your age, you should know the difference between an opinion, a fact and opinion stated as fact masquerading as some 'truth'.

He is not your age or even my age (I'm older), he is still very young in the reality of things, more than half your age...so I think some leeway is majorly warranted when your entire godamn world burns to the ground and everything you believed to be true (or myth), you suddenly find out isn't and realise people very close to you have you lied to you all their life and one has betrayed your trust completely.

For that, give the MC some slack.
Dear Mav (if you allow me to be that friendly)...

Reading all this thread I got to like you. Not as much as HF likes you. And not as much as I like Joshy, but still... Sometimes you are nice and smart, sometime you rush to piss on peoples. Some deserve it, some not. (I have did as you asked, breaks are there now)

In 605 pages, I have got to know your sarcastic positions, but the mockery doesnt scare me, nor the superior tone. Having only 1 or 2 post here doesnt make me a rookie at understanding writing or storymaking. Neither as social interactions.

Now, I havent said anywhere that my post is an ”opinion” or a ”fact”. I just expressed what I THINK about the game, the story and Ceolag ”inception”. So, there is no need to get me schooled like that. For me, this the truth, is what I think about the game, the MC, the Ceolag work. Is this just an opinion? Probably, but who need such labels anyway? Is the ultimate truth? No, but is my truth. No one can know the ultimate truth, because the big truth is formed by everyone truth. So, if that word disturbed you, my sarcastic apologies. But I tend to say the things as I see them. And I think that the author should see everyone of his players personal truths, so that he can understand how his creations look outside of his head. But, yes, maybe to not offend some sensitive guys, I will add MY there. (Done, edited for your like)

Now, about your dear MC. First, I must observe that you havent given Kaija the same slack, even she is as young as him. Second, if you havent rushed to ”slack” me, you would have realized that, after all that I have said, I would not have finished the six chapters of the game if I wouldnt give the kid a biiiiig slack. Third, the moment I have said the MC is just a story tool, I have given him not a slack, but a thrump card.

So, what we have left? Your truth is that he is young and he is allowed to be ”puerile”. My truth is that you are half right, but such a half-rage, half-dumb hero doesnt fit in the story... anymore.

Finally... My issue is not with that tool of MC, it is with Ceolag, because he wants to take us into this great safari with an old Trabant... ;p

I love Ceolag as much as you all do, but I dont tend to tell my ladies that they look great when they are not. Because, after that I must accompany or fuck them like that. So, better help them improve, dont you think?
 
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Leonardo di Caprio, every Voctoria secret model ever, Brad Pit, Jude Law, Orlando Bloom, Michae Fassbender, Armie Hammer - men and women literally taken off the street and given instant world wide fame and fortune for their body, not their looks, not their brains, not their anything - just their bodies. People who have pussy on tap, do not have to do anything and if they were not famous, they would still swim in pussy but be a mere sex addict nobody, as opposed to creepy 50+ y olds pumping babies into 23 y olds.

When the sex is throwing herself at you, nothing you can do but go throbbingly deep, close your eyes and gorge yourself on the sex. Looks are secondary, as these beefcakes could not care for anything, even if poor, when their hedonistic sex cravings get serviced left and right all throughout their lives. Easy life is a reality for the favored guys.

Take countless male models getting sexed all over the world without the need for fame or fortune, but with sex and women throwing themselves on them like crazy for the whole duration of their lives.„
I dont tend to tell my ladies that they look great when they are not. Because, after that I must accompany or fuck them like that. So, better help them improve, dont you think?
Just like Trump or Musk: men who start nepo baby will win no matter what. they do not need to improve, or learn or evolve.
Men like MC who are living it up just being dumb and letting life provide everything and everyone is a wonderful story telling companion, as most interesting tension breakers come when unexpected solutions are introduced via plot over the heads of the protagonist and the antagonist to arrange the result: swords with skills settle most of the battles MC fights, Kaija settles the others and the plot gives MC resistance to succubi as a bonus.
 

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Dear Mav (if you allow mw to be that friendly)...

Reading all this thread I got to like you. Not as much as MF likes you. And not as much as I like Joshy, but still... Sometimes you are nice and smart, sometime you rush to piss on peoples. Some deserve it, some not. (I have did as you asked, breaks are there now)

In 605 pages, I have got to know your sarcastic positions, but the mockery doesnt scare me, nor the superior tone. Having only 1 or 2 post here doesnt make me a rookie at understanding writing or storymaking. Neither as social interactions.

Now, I havent said anywhere that my post is an ”opinion” or a ”fact”. I just expressed what I THINK about the game, the story and Ceolag ”inception”. So, there is no need to get me schooled like that. For me, this the truth, is what I think about the game, the MC, the Ceolag work. Is this just an opinion? Probably, but who need such labels anyway? Is the ultimate truth? No, but is my truth. No one can know the ultimate truth, because the big truth is formed by everyone truth. So, if that word disturbed you, my sarcastic apologies. But I tend to say the things as I see them. And I think that the author should see everyone of his players personal thruths, so that he can understand how his creations look outside of his head. But, yes, maybe to not offend some sensitive guys, I will add MY there. (Done, edited for your like)

Now, about your dear MC. First, I must observe that you havent given Kaija the same slack, even she is as young as him. Second, if you havent rushed to ”slack” me, you would have realized that, after all that I have said, I would not have finished the six chapters of the game if I wouldnt give the kid a biiiiig slack. Third, the moment I have said the MC is just a story tool, I have given him not a slack, but a thrump card.

So, what we have left? Your thruth is that he is young and he is allowed to be ”puerile”. My thruth is that you are half right, but such a half-rage, half-dumb hero doesnt fit in the story... anymore.

Finally... My issue is not with that tool of MC, it is with Ceolag, because he wants to take us into this great safari with an old Trabant... ;p

I love Ceolag as much as you all do, but I dont tend to tell my ladies that they look great when they are not. Because, after that I must accompany or fuck them like that. So, better help them improve, dont you think?
Nice edits to your post btw, and I don't mean the space breaks.

Have a nice day.
 
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