VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.7.0] [Ceolag]

[falconhawk223]

Diversify the LIs, each one brings something different even if similar to another LI

I don't really get how diversifying justifies the unnaturally long build up. She was already plenty diverse just because of her faction. There wasn't any real reason why her route couldn't have started in chapter 5.

Probably because Ceolag is a story-first writer, in general. And honestly it would take some extreme narrative back bending to try to justify Medb starting to thaw much earlier.

I disagree. I think chapter 5 could have been rewritten in away that allows for more romantic development. It would be way to early for them too have sex I agree, but as I said before all of her interacts seem platonic and not romantic. If she had more of a focus in chapter 5 it could work a lot better, but for the most part all she really does in chapter five is exposition.

 

[Rehwyn]

I disagree. I think chapter 5 could have been rewritten in away that allows for more romantic development. It would be way to early for them too have sex I agree, but as I said before all of her interacts seem platonic and not romantic. If she had more of a focus in chapter 5 it could work a lot better, but for the most part all she really does in chapter five is exposition.

It could have, though I'd personal think a few weeks is still quite fast for someone like Medb who's hated the Templars for something like 800 years.

Finn also had a hatred for a long time, but it was still not nearly as long and was borne from propaganda rather than a deeply personal reason. And given her younger age as well, I can see her shift as being more believable.

But most significantly, more romantic developments in Chapter 5 with Medb probably would mean MC likely wouldn't have had the same connection to Finn, and clearly Ceolag wanted there to be a strong emotional impact there if a reader is on a pro-Alfar path.

 

[falconhawk223]

I'd personal think a few weeks is still quite fast for someone like Medb who's hated the Templars for something like 800 years.

Then make it longer than a few weeks

But then MC likely wouldn't have had the same connection to Finn, and clearly Ceolag wanted there to be a strong emotional impact there if a reader is on a pro-Alfar path.

I agree that the connection wouldn't have been as strong but I feel like you can still build a strong connection with Medb taking more focus in that chapter

 

[Raziel_8]

cause you don't rush with old people

Fiona is way older

It's just that she doesn't even live on earth, neither on good terms with humans, add some hate for templars and that her time with the MC is already very limited.
The pacing of their relationship building isn't slow, they just had barely any time together...i really hope this changes, as is she can barely called a LI.

 

[Rehwyn]

It's just that she doesn't even live on earth, neither on good terms with humans, add some hate for templars and that her time with the MC is already very limited.
The pacing of their relationship building isn't slow, they just had barely any time together...i really hope this changes, as is she can barely called a LI.

Yeah, that's really what it's boils down to. I suspect that will drastically change next Chapter though if you go with the Alfar.

Some relationships have had the advantage of being able to grown in small increments because they live in the same world as MC (Fiona, for example). Medb, by nature of where she lives, basically has to develop in spurts.

 

[motseer]

I don't really understand why Medb has so little content

Time moves at a completely different rate where she lives. In fact, Medb and MC have been fucking for weeks now. We just don't know it yet...

 

[Knightcvel]

The problem with Madb is that it's very difficult meeting her. The opportunities will happen only once in a long while. If we followed Fiona's or Kaija's path we won't see Madb even in the next chapter.

 

[Canto Forte]

Yeah ... we like to forget all about the actual story of this game: MC goes whereever he wants whenever he wants to, as evidenced by him ending up in Alfar realm despite the evident ceasefire with covert murder squads continuing the conflict.
MC has magical blood and living magical swords who will protect him even beyond death, with him being accepted by their living godess mother as a peer, Mc goes to neverwhere and does whatever he wants and right now he can effectively be John Wick for the remainder of the game with how much plot armor and weappons and fighting prowess he demonstrates.
Also, just a heads up on the fave world renouned fantasy action stories and plots: Ethan and John and Ballerina and Bond were fanatical murderous zealots with Robocop/Treminator killer rage and absolute devotion to their orders to kill anyone and everyone, until they get hunted by their own; it is only then that they turn their gunds on their former boses, when they are literally written out of their books and hunted to death.

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[motseer]

MC goes whereever he wants whenever he wants to, ...

Well yes, who wouldn't want to take a week off of work (with pay), only to find out it's really six weeks in never-never land with your own private blonde "fencing" instructor? I'm sure I wouldn't turn it down... Jus' Sayin'

 

[Rehwyn]

Well yes, who wouldn't want to take a week off of work (with pay), only to find out it's really six weeks in never-never land with your own private blonde "fencing" instructor? I'm sure I wouldn't turn it down... Jus' Sayin'

I'd definitely be eager to show her what I can do with my sword...

 

[User_No_Name]

How do I get finish chapter 7 achievement? I chose every option available except not being cheeky to Eric. Yet seems like I am missing something? Or is this a bug maybe?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Well yes, who wouldn't want to take a week off of work (with pay), only to find out it's really six weeks in never-never land with your own private blonde "fencing" instructor? I'm sure I wouldn't turn it down... Jus' Sayin'

 

[Alan Dalles]

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[Lu98ke]

I'ts pretty incredible:
I did 4 different playthrough and the only one where I choose to fuck Linnae is the same where I pursue Elea.

 

[Raziel_8]

I'ts pretty incredible:
I did 4 different playthrough and the only one where I choose to fuck Linnae is the same where I pursue Elea.

Yeah, Linnae is a snitch...well at least if you're rather confrontational, if not she doesn't tell Elea.

 

[bobdango]

Sadly I think in getting some fomo because of all the different paths. I wish I enjoyed replaying VNs to try different paths but I do not. It was fun while it lasted.

Good luck dev!

 

[RodrigoOSan]

Okay, now it's interesting because the game splitted in three routes with different contents for three Love Interests. Kaija for the templars, Queen Titania (MedB route) for the Elves and Fiona being neutral route (my favorite and the ideal in my opinion if you want to stand in the middle between templars and Elves)

The only one dev needs step up the content is Elea, she feels more a side character instead a main LI because she just looks like a obsessed fan of Myths and Fantasy Legends and nothing else. Unless dev is planning something for her (or maybe it's because i skipped her route lmao)

 

[Rehwyn]

Okay, now it's interesting because the game splitted in three routes with different contents for three Love Interests. Kaija for the templars, Queen Titania (MedB route) for the Elves and Fiona being neutral route (my favorite and the ideal in my opinion if you want to stand in the middle between templars and Elves)

The only one dev needs step up the content is Elea, she feels more a side character instead a main LI because she just looks like a obsessed fan of Myths and Fantasy Legends and nothing else. Unless dev is planning something for her (or maybe it's because i skipped her route lmao)

If you're on Elea's route, you currently get the same ending as with Kaija. Makes sense, given Elea's mother is on the Templar Council and in order to have contact with Elea next chapter you need to be on Earth.

 

[Shimoneta]

This is gonna be another game where i will have to break up with the perfectly normal girlfriend to be able to pursue other girls and feel like an ass because of it? If you want no harem, then dont make me feel like an ass for chasing %90 of the existing girls out there... I will check it out but probably drop it in midway.

 

[Rehwyn]

This is gonna be another game where i will have to break up with the perfectly normal girlfriend to be able to pursue other girls and feel like an ass because of it? If you want no harem, then dont make me feel like an ass for chasing %90 of the existing girls out there... I will check it out but probably drop it in midway.

Yes and no. There's essentially three versions of the starting GF based on choices you make regarding her in the first 1-2 Chapters.

If you have a bad relationship with her, it's a lot emotionally easier to end that relationship.

That said, the dev has said this:

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