Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.5a] [Ron Chon]

[agitatedturk]

wish list
-iipstick optional/changeable
-hairstyles in sex minigame
-ability to make non-rogue girls at least slightly submissive/neutral. why does laura get to tap my balls as chastisement and I can't say anything, she is crazy
-something is wrong with the shape/size of Jean's mouth and jaw is too wide. maybe could use some eye makeup options


bugs(?) (macos 14.2.1)
-what happened to most of the clothing and lingerie
-rogue lingerie panties missing images in minigame, see screenshot
-game gets substantially slower as it progresses
-have never seen any stat rewards for gifting clothing, in this or last version

-many small things are clunky or broken but not notable enough for me to have remembered them in detail

That said, very much more fun than 0.2b

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

How to get more clothes for the girls ? I't doesn't show anything news in the mall. I already finished all main quest.

We're updating the clothing art.

There seems to be a bug in my save. I'm pretty damn far in the story (Spring), with all relationship variables in the 400-600 range, but the option to date Laura or Rogue isn't available to me, only Jean. She gave me the go-ahead to date them, and I've done all their special events before moving on to the next chapters so far, but no dice.

Can anyone tell me if this is a bug and if it can be fixed?

Edit: I should also add that I haven't cheated or anything, though there were plenty of rollbacks.

Huh, you should be able to text or call them. I'll check and see what's up.

The art:

The gameplay:

The Technical:

Final thoughts:

Thank you for the detailed feedback. I'll pass it on.

Why can't we break up?

Dev team decided to omit this early on. Popular consensus is not to punish the player or lock them out of dating.

Thats how we should see it instead of a full fledged game

Thank you.

there is a lot of promise here but the devs need to watch out for feature creep and the urge to redo things endlessly thinking it will be a better end product

Making Chapter 1 as feature complete as possible is being done so that way players will have a complete experience in the SIGNIFIGANTLY OFF CHANCE that we decide to stop.

Also, if it's done in Chapter 1, it means all we have to do for future chapters is art and writing.

Haven't tried the game yet but is there no plans for a harem route?

One of the major features is polyamory. So yes.

Alright I went into this super skeptical but honestly playing this just for Kurt is equally hilarious mother fucker keeps jump scaring the mc anytime he's fucking groggy in the morning or tired as shit after Laura goes mma on your charecter he just pops up gives you a micro heartattack advertises his cellphone app then disappears without warning

Kurt was originally just meant as a cameo but the dude is so beloved that he became an actual NPC and with the rising popularity more male characters will be added to be bros with.

Ah damn, didn't know this. Hope those options get restored in relatively quick patches!

Yes, the girls are actually pretty okay with you dating other people... as long as you let them know first.

Consent is important. Inviting someone into your relationship is quite a change.

We've stretched ourselves for reasons why the girls would be open to a relationship while still maintaining some level of realism.

This is ultimately a porn game no matter how good the writing is so there will be the occasionally spotty bit.

Poor chaps certainly deserve to get some

About the boys, without disclosing too much info I can tell you that they are not gonna die alone, at least not most of them (there are always some assholes, those might end up lonely)

We respect the characters more than Marvel does sometimes. Including one off characters that fit as good girlfriends for the dudes and are often neglected for several years by writers.

The writers have confirmed the guys will have off-screen girlfriends. We will not get to cuck them nor will there be any swinging...

I was shot down real quick with my Kitty + Colossus three-way suggestion but worry not. Mods exist for a reason.

All the other girls will be mutants too.

We never established that restriction.

but no threesomes yet.

They will be implemented as soon as they can, believe me.

I miss it that we dont see where the characters are on the map itself, that was a nice feature without having to look to the side at the rooms names and the character circle.

As I said previously, with characters being added it would clutter the map beyond reason. As some of you may notice, the girls are chilling out in the background rather than the foreground in some cases. Once we go above 3 characters, the space on the map gets blocked.

And secondly, for me the dotted background of the speech bubbles make it harder to read, i liked the more clear background (if i remember that correctly).

Gotta agree, the dotted text bubbles are honestly just incredibly ugly and downright painful/hard to read.

This can be toggled.

Oh how about if you could click on the character circle on the side of the map and go to that room? That could be a great shortcut.

I will pass this on to the dev team. It's a good idea.

the art feels a bit Ai-cg but overall good

It's not AI.

let's hope it will get improvement in the future .

We've publicly stated that it will be.

That just makes me miss the good ol' days before Patreon existed

Statistically more projects got abandoned due to lack of funding than the existence of projects sustained by scam artists.

In fact several projects STILL get abandoned due to funding issues.

when nothing still under construction was released to someone that wasn't on the dev team or at least a closed beta tester before it was finished and devs funded development with their own money

We did fund the first release in house. We then ran out of money. Ron actually went into the red slightly.

and if they were lucky made a profit from selling it for $20-50 after it was released as completed.

We can't sell this game as it is a parody of an existing IP.

As it is now if it it takes 20 updates to finish with 2 months each and one is subbed at $5/mo that's $200 for a game when even a AAA title is $60-70

We surprisingly do work fast for the amount of content we put out/update. We also don't force anyone to pay for our work.

The only benefits of being a patron are-

1. You see some art early.

2. You get access to the OST.

3. You help get the art done faster as we can pay the artist more.

absolutely ridiculous, esp when there's no guarantee it will even be completed

We're all hyper focused on getting chapter 1 as complete as possible. Unfortunately you're gonna have to take me at my word.

but only because there are no free options at all and never will be

Yeah that's sad and you never have to worry about us blocking content.

We haven't and will never paywall people to play this game.

Aww man, we get sad Rogue when we close the game now? =(

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You monster.

This is stupid just stop

Make me.

Hopefully we eventually get to collars and leash etc

It will depend on the girl and situational content.

If you want to collar all the girls, then this isn't the game for you.

I now know that you intentionally did this to give the characters more personality. However I'd like you to consider this from a video games perspective. This is what we'd call a "scripted loss", the players were lulled into thinking they could accomplish it simply because they were presented with the ability to "play" through it with a progression bar only to find out no matter what they do it's non-achievable.

I thought we did a good job of telegraphing the girls having different preferences. We also haven't put any scripted losses.

I believe shiny was mistaken. It is possible to bring even Jean to orgasm in the first season. It's not necessarily easy which as you said it is intentional, but it is possible.

I think something was lost in the conversation. If I said anything that implied that you can't get girls to finish then I'm sorry.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

i think, and i would hope devs implement this, devs should make a speech bubble or something pop up where it says Jean is resisting, so that at least it makes some sense for this situation. feels less like a loss then and more like progress

I think we may have been focusing a bit too much on immersion but yeah a thought bubble/box going "You feel like she doesn't like this." if we don't have the girl openly voice her distaste would be worth the sacrifice. Only so much we can do visually.

Can you edit/overwrite the default outfits?

Yes.

And how would you make the girls wear custom outfits around?

By asking them.

-iipstick optional/changeable

We're experimenting with this.

-hairstyles in sex minigame

We're working on this one.

-ability to make non-rogue girls at least slightly submissive/neutral. why does laura get to tap my balls as chastisement and I can't say anything, she is crazy

Some girls just ain't submissive my dude. Though I can promise you that there will be an equal distribution of dom/sub/switch characters.

-something is wrong with the shape/size of Jean's mouth and jaw is too wide. maybe could use some eye makeup options

I'll look into this. Though it may ultimately fall to a matter of taste.

-what happened to most of the clothing and lingerie

They're being updated to match the new art.

-rogue lingerie panties missing images in minigame, see screenshot
-game gets substantially slower as it progresses
-have never seen any stat rewards for gifting clothing, in this or last version

I'll bring this up to the dev's attention.

That said, very much more fun than 0.2b

I'm glad you're enjoying yourself.

 

[Nizzquizz]

This can be toggled.

How exactly? I tried all the options in graphics.. mind you, I'm not talking about the image filter, those two options are - uh, how to put it nicely? - not really enjoyable to me anyway.

 

[bigjay720]

"v0.3a Known Issues - characters are missing towels, leading to some unintended nudity in a couple of scenes"
This is a feature, not an issue!

 

[Bosss]

At what stage does the game end? Completed the quest "Chapter 1. Summer." Nothing further. Bug?

 

[zack200]

I was shot down real quick with my Kitty + Colossus three-way suggestion but worry not. Mods exist for a reason.

I see now your just a cuck

 

[FlamesOfVengeance]

Cracks knuckles.

Okay time to be community manager.


People are complaining that this game is basically still in Alpha despite having so much content. We will make it that the game won't require a new save unless it's actually impossible to not need it.


Gid gud scrub.


No. In fact we actively advise people continue to play Rogue Like as our game has a different focus.


It was said they wouldn't when we released the new update.


You would be missing out on half of the added content if you don't start a new one for this update. Also this game is in active development.

I don't understand this mindset when most games on this website often require new saves. Like it's the norm. It's rare that a game NEVER requires a new save.


There will be.


New content was added to earlier points in the game.


I wouldn't call the story events mini. We did add random sandbox interactions though which I would call mini but I believe it makes the world and the girls feel more alive.


For people complaining about the game still being an alpha, this is sound advise.


When they're ready. Lame answer I know but I assume you'd prefer them to function properly.



We're following the comic timeline. If a girl shows up in the comic, we've at least looked into viability of adding her.

Also there is no original. This is not an update or replacement for Rogue Like.


Kinda yes, kinda no.

We did want a different presentation so people aren't staring at the bottom of the screen. The character sprites and facial expressions are a lot more active in their movement and we're proud of some dynamic things we do with the backgrounds that we made it that people would have to move their eyes from just one location.

We however do not want to inconvenience people if we can help it though.


Things got cluttered real fast so we decided to nix them.


More focus on the story and you can't turn the girls into cum addicted sluts. No judgement if that's your thing but that's just not a feature planned for this game.


Also this.



Save editing will genuinely break the game. We've streamlined things that you won't need to cheat to get points.


We've intentionally made things non-uniform. Oni's game may have different starting points but pretty much everything is the same.

We decided to make each girl a different experience in what they're comfortable with to make things less repetitive.


And you're free to play that game if all you want is simple sex. We've never said otherwise.


This is factually incorrect.

X mark means no quirk. No quirk equals they behave closer to the comic book.

People say we didn't add an explanation but we did. Nightcrawler explains it and it's showing the dev team that people are actively skipping the tutorial and then complaining that they didn't have a tutorial.


You'd be missing out on 90% of the content.


This is because she's older and has just a little bit more of her shit together. Just wait until you're there for NEW trauma. The phoenix saga is a hell of a trip.


Then I guess it is more of a skill issue?


Yes. We wanted to fix and streamline some things. Next MAJOR update will be to finish chapter 1. The plan is to make chapter 1 feel like a complete game.


A lot of story. We have platonic routes for each girl.

Although if you really don't like any of the girls, we have discussed the possibility of a chapter skip option as the game gets further into development.


Using cheats breaks the game because of how event heavy it is. If you want all the girls naked to have an orgy in the quad, play Oni's game.

We're not a replacement.


We will do our best. As said earlier, we're gonna make sure we don't break saves unless it is genuinely impossible otherwise. It's the unfortunate state of being an in development game.

I mean, I get it, games are subject to change but wouldn't the smartest way of developing a game be to make sure that v0.1 is as great as it could possibly be so you won't have to come back later and change things? That way you could build on the solid foundation that you've set up and you'd only need to add stuff on top of that... that's how I would do it if I was a developer. Most developers actually do that around here (atleast for the games I personally play) which is why they support old save files most of the time. Just my two cents tho.

The Null Hypothesis is a great game so far but needing new save files all the time would actively ruin one's enjoyment in the whole thing in my opinion. Hopefully this version right here will be the last one that requires new save files.

 

[accidentalEv1l]

Came to report a bug but ended up reading the feedback posts and it's already been reported. Super enjoyably written game, very much going to be supporting this going forward. There is clearly a frick ton of effort put into future proofing in this update, can't wait to see it take further shape over the next couple years. Whoever is writing the x men twitter (x? ironic af now I think about it) knock off banter clearly has a lot of love for even the characters that aren't likely to pop up in the game. I've chuckled out loud more than once. Keep it up y'all, you have a keeper

 

[RedPandaExpress]

It would be nice for Kurt to have more tutorial repeat/hint for next step type convo options, that might help the matter considering some of the complaints I've read in this thread.

I would agree, except we have had a number of scenes with explicit tutorials from Charles or Kurt that people missed. I mean I get it, if you're here for the porn you may not be paying attention to the text. Still, there is only so much that can be done to spoon feed the information.

Ah well, can't win them all.

 

[Axer Hell]

Hey guys,

Just started playing this game. Love it so far!!

I had a question. Would you recommend finishing all the Optional/Side Missions before progressing the story?

If it's just some additional conversations and a render or 2, and doesn't add much content, I'd prefer to skip it.

Thanks!

 

[RedPandaExpress]

Hey guys,

Just started playing this game. Love it so far!!

I had a question. Would you recommend finishing all the Optional/Side Missions before progressing the story?

If it's just some additional conversations and a render or 2, and doesn't add much content, I'd prefer to skip it.

Thanks!

Its additional conversations that give insight into the characters. If your version of content is just renders, you can safely proceed without trying to catch 'em all.

 

[Wongsitt]

how do I use the console command?

 

[swaglord]

Quick question, I remember in 0.2 that other characters changed their clothing when winter came. It's not happening so far in my game, has this been changed in 0.3 ?

Banger of a game btw, having a grand time with it.

 

[--Crimson--]

cant seem to trigger jean winter event of console her and help her relax anyone know to to start it

 

[RedPandaExpress]

Quick question, I remember in 0.2 that other characters changed their clothing when winter came. It's not happening so far in my game, has this been changed in 0.3 ?

Banger of a game btw, having a grand time with it.

This is a temporary limitation.

The old clothing didn't fit the new models, so new clothing was commissioned. As you might imagine, having the artist redo all the clothing and then making sure it lines up right again is not exactly an overnight process. So rather than delay, the Devs are going to be releasing the new clothing along with other potential content (new scenes, bug fixes, etc) in a series of smaller more regular updates.

 

[swaglord]

This is a temporary limitation.

The old clothing didn't fit the new models, so new clothing was commissioned. As you might imagine, having the artist redo all the clothing and then making sure it lines up right again is not exactly an overnight process. So rather than delay, the Devs are going to be releasing the new clothing along with other potential content (new scenes, bug fixes, etc) in a series of smaller more regular updates.

Thx for the answer, it's what I thought, just wanted to make sure I didn't break anything. Good luck with the continued devlopment

 

[thjis1]

As far as a trainer game goes, I am liking it. Enough references to the source material to keep it interesting. Nice look.

in 3a is level 5 as far as you can get? THink I have finished the game.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

Bug report : For Jean's Spring "Support her during her class demonstration" event the "available action" icon initially shows up in the girl's hallway, but with no character icon. Once you travel there and open the map again, Jean is now correctly in the classroom with the action icon.

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[drifter139]

At what stage does the game end? Completed the quest "Chapter 1. Summer." Nothing further. Bug?

that's the end for the current build. next update will probably add more content