Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[drifter139]

Yeah, they are so iconic people are still horny about it 25 years later.

>all those pictures
Damn, i didnt know he drew so much Laura.


I stick to my previous argument.


When she was ported over to the comics she was made caucasian to look more like Logan, OG Laura looked nothing like her old man.

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Does Null goes off to fight in the infinity war in one of them?
Cause i could see Null going off to space to tame that space strange.

imagine him coming home 2 yrs later to find several toddlers running around and several women saying it's his turn to watch the kids lol

 

[salscou]

Haha, I'm just messin'. We disagree, but we respectful.

I know pal.

Didn't need to be raceswapped for that. Could have just revealed that Dr. Kinney was dark-skinned too.

Youre missing the context that we originally thought she was fully a clone, originally everyone thought she just carried Laura to term after she was basically genetically manufactured from Logan's leftover genes from weapon X.
And in Evo Sarah wasnt even a thing, just a Hydra scientist and we didnt know where the other side of her genetic material came from, the movie also had her mother be just a random kidnapped Mexican girl that got killed after giving birth.

I mean she already had his chin and and a bit of his nose. Could have just tweak some facial features more to reflect parentage better.

Nah, as it is right now it works better, she trully looks like Logan's little girl, she even has his fangs.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Does Null goes off to fight in the infinity war in one of them?
Cause i could see Null going off to space to tame that space strange.

Infinity War happens during the timeline and the X-Men didn't have much involvement.

Though one of the sequels is outlined to take place in space. Since Cosmic Marvel is rather expansive.

I don't see what changing her race added. It wouldn't even be the only interracial kid that Logan's got, right?

You need to remember that X-23's introduction to the comics was pretty much a surprise to everyone.

Joe Quesada wrote a story in 2005 about a girl named Kiden Nixon(Nyx) and randomly threw in X-23 for reasons to this day I cannot find a concrete answer to.

It universally pissed off everyone who was remotely familiar with Evo, pissed off people who looked into Evo because of the controversy, and royally pissed off the creators of X-23 because fun fact, Laura's design in Evo was based off of the real life daughter of Evo's show runner.

The thing is that Nyx isn't even that bad of a comic if you put in the herculean effort of ignoring X-23's role in it. Though the controversy was so bad that the character of Kiden Nixon was basically gone from comic books until this year(2025).

imagine him coming home 2 yrs later to find several toddlers running around and several women saying it's his turn to watch the kids lol

Who leaked the ending of our game?

 

[armond]

Infinity War happens during the timeline and the X-Men didn't have much involvement.

Though one of the sequels is outlined to take place in space. Since Cosmic Marvel is rather expansive.


You need to remember that X-23's introduction to the comics was pretty much a surprise to everyone.

Joe Quesada wrote a story in 2005 about a girl named Kiden Nixon(Nyx) and randomly threw in X-23 for reasons to this day I cannot find a concrete answer to.

It universally pissed off everyone who was remotely familiar with Evo, pissed off people who looked into Evo because of the controversy, and royally pissed off the creators of X-23 because fun fact, Laura's design in Evo was based off of the real life daughter of Evo's show runner.

The thing is that Nyx isn't even that bad of a comic if you put in the herculean effort of ignoring X-23's role in it. Though the controversy was so bad that the character of Kiden Nixon was basically gone from comic books until this year(2025).


Who leaked the ending of our game?

Spoiler: Infinity War eh

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[Ballistic 9029]

In the process of redoing my playthrough since the save reset. I forgot just how much time can be spent in just the first season alone, and also I remember Season 2 (Winter?) is where Stamina and Stamina upgrades come into play I'm pretty sure, but I can't remember how many points they cost.

 

[JLucci]

Joe Quesada

I've been trying to forget that name after what he did to my boy Peter Parker

 

[ddtmm]

I've been trying to forget that name after what he did to my boy Peter Parker

whu happun?

 

[JLucci]

whu happun?

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[armond]

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'Nuff said!

 

[WakamoSato]

In the process of redoing my playthrough since the save reset. I forgot just how much time can be spent in just the first season alone, and also I remember Season 2 (Winter?) is where Stamina and Stamina upgrades come into play I'm pretty sure, but I can't remember how many points they cost.

The stamina upgrade cost is 1 point --> 3 points and 5 points for the last one.

And don't forget you can buy more skill-points with achievement-points from the phone.

Edit for fat fingers.

 

[ddtmm]

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[cannavaro99]

Truly the Holy Grail its all so hot and the Laura pieces I love her fit


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Shiny can I suggest this to be in the pool of potential outfits for Laura

Those boots are to die for

 

[0rexxx]

did anyone report this already?

I got it when talking to Laura. It seems to me Rogue had "She" instead of "Her"

 

[TheL_ckyOne]

did anyone report this already?

Nope, same with mirror typo when you gift it to Rogue

 

[salscou]

Joe Quesada wrote a story in 2005 about a girl named Kiden Nixon(Nyx) and randomly threw in X-23 for reasons to this day I cannot find a concrete answer to.

Look at the bright side, if it wasnt for that, then maybe Laura would have never made it out into the comics, or gotten everyone so pissed that we got Innocence Lost and Target X to make up for it.

 

[Tommy7358]

We've had publishers talk to us so we'd likely make something original so we could actively make $$$ off of it once we finish TNH.

It'd be the logical and financially wise thing to do because right now TNH is in a net loss for itself with Ron needing to dip into his personal funds to pay for a lot of art.

I have outlined general ideas for up to 4 Sequels to TNH. 2 visual novels and 2 more sandboxes.

All of which Buttholder also helped me discuss because we are nerds.

Dang, looks I missed quite a bit while I was away; time for my signature loads of long-winded questions in one post.

So how does making something original square up with the fact that you've got ideas for up to 4 sequels for TNH lined up? After finishing TNH you guys go do that original game to make money and then you guys would return to THN sequels? Wouldn't that increase the chances of the Big Mouse noticing TNH and any potential sequels or is that too far away currently to be a concern?

Is there any reason it's specifically 2 visual novels and 2 sandboxes or is it just how you've envisioned it for now? And finally, in my second ever post on this thread I asked whether Null will be the protagonist for any potential TNH sequels and you replied in the affirmative by answering Null will be the protagonist in all the team's X-Men games and if I'm not mistaken it's written somewhere that you guys will only have one protagonist per setting tackled. Does that still hold true today and is there any chance of this stance changing in the future?

I personally hope not as more often than not I find that spin-offs with different protagonists delay development of the original work, dilute the point of the original or just be plain cash grabs.

 

[Fluffybutttt]

Wouldn't that increase the chances of the Big Mouse noticing TNH and any potential sequels or is that too far away currently to be a concern?

This is something I've wondered about myself a lot as well. There was talk about the potential for a SFW version being floated around right? Or at the very least, the idea was thrown out there. A SFW version could unshackle the devs/writers because they wouldn't be held back by needing every character to be 18+ and fuckable.

However, how would the team be able to even make a SFW version and make money off of it? Time and time again we've seen fan-made projects be shut down after years of work because of copyright laws. The only way a SFW version of this game could survive, is if the entire story and characters are changed. You could keep the name, sure, but the X-Men? That'd have to be thrown out. What would this game even look like without the X-Men?

I'm not sure how copyright works with porn games, maybe that's a legal grey area?

 

[Tommy7358]

This is something I've wondered about myself a lot as well. There was talk about the potential for a SFW version being floated around right? Or at the very least, the idea was thrown out there. A SFW version could unshackle the devs/writers because they wouldn't be held back by needing every character to be 18+ and fuckable.

However, how would the team be able to even make a SFW version and make money off of it? Time and time again we've seen fan-made projects be shut down after years of work because of copyright laws. The only way a SFW version of this game could survive, is if the entire story and characters are changed. You could keep the name, sure, but the X-Men? That'd have to be thrown out. What would this game even look like without the X-Men?

I'm not sure how copyright works with porn games, maybe that's a legal grey area?

I read the talk about people asking about a SFW version as more of a compliment and testament to the writers' effort in showing comic-faithful X-Men and how good it is rather than any concrete plan on releasing a separate SFW version of the game.

Also, I wouldn't say they would be unshackled from 18+ characters if they made a SFW version. Boots has previously said that the dev team is staying away from any underaged characters like Gabby/Badger because even if they add her in with nothing questionable, people can take the artwork that is there and make illegal mods and that will all blowback on the team even if they had nothing to do with it so they aren't taking any chances like that.

I have no idea how copyright with porn games work but I'd reckon it's simply because porn games are beneath Disney's notice since they are small scale and people don't usually openly advertise they're playing a porn game but if a SFW version of TNH came out and Youtubers post videos about it with clickbaity titles like "This X-Men fan game is MUCH better than X-Men comics!" (even if it is true) then I'd bet that will eventually catch someone's eye at Disney.

 

[salscou]

I'm not sure how copyright works with porn games, maybe that's a legal grey area?

Look at it from a business sense, porn games are small and niche enough to not warrant the bother even if they find out about it, giving it publicity would actually draw more eyes upon it, and they really arent competing in the same market because its not like Disney would approve of official smut.
This was already settled in the past with a comic artist making porn of Minnie just to prove a legal point that fair use covers such parodies.

staying away from any underaged characters like Gabby because even if they add her in with nothing questionable

And i repreat, such a shame, taking care of the baby gremlin with Laura would be absolutely wholesome.

 

[Fluffybutttt]

Also, I wouldn't say they would be unshackled from 18+ characters if they made a SFW version. Boots has previously said that the dev team is staying away from any underaged characters like Gabby/Badger because even if they add her in with nothing questionable, people can take the artwork that is there and make illegal mods and that will all blowback on the team even if they had nothing to do with it so they aren't taking any chances like that.

I only mention it because Boots has stated:

We wouldn't have to make every character on screen 18.*

There are a lot of child and teen characters in the X-Men comics that we either have to age up, whether they are romance options or not, or not include at all. Like we can't have Illiyana/Magik show up prior to her being thrown into Limbo. The most we can do is imply that she's around.

We could have more male characters due to less spending on sex art.

We could have other characters date without the game being labeled NTR.

A female Null could be written simultaneously with the male Null since the game would focus less on dating and more on just being an X-Men life sim.

Dating could still be possible but the pool of options would likely be limited in comparison as we likely wouldn't break all of the couples up. Some of them we would because we're tired of Marvel's melodrama, others are fine. I know a lot of Kitty fans would be happy with her and Colossus actually getting married.

*A background detail that we don't draw too much attention to is that there are several students that aren't 18+. On Earth 69 Xavier's school opened up to more students several years earlier than the comics and what you see in the Fox X-Men movies.

A fully SFW version is something I would genuinely be interested in, it's just tricky to get around copyright if there were to ever be a SFW version they went all in on. What would TNH even look like without the X-Men ya know? To skirt around copyright, would the X-Men be the "B-Men" and Xavier have hair? lol