Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

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She probably raided Logan's closet for that jacket and had that hat somewhere for an Indiana Jones costume.

Yeah. And she maybe raided his fridge before deciding what to wear too.

 

[Knight]

I know Kitty's dress sense is a running joke, but she looks like she mugged a Reddit moderator for that hat.

Maybe 20 years ago, have you seen what female mods on reddit look like now? Kitty is too pretty to stoop that low

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[MyMetalBoxes]

I know Kitty's dress sense is a running joke, but she looks like she mugged a Reddit moderator for that hat.

She's doing the Great Jacinto

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[Knight]

She's doing the Great Jacinto

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To be fair, if we are going with the faith is protection theory that would work for a lot of people.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

So Jubilee is gonna be a vampire then?

Not likely. I stopped reading before that was a thing and from what I've heard, nobody actually liked it. It was just a thing she went through before getting cured.

It would be nice if there were some girls who Null wasn't fucking, Nulls harem could use some friends who aren't competing for Nulls dick.

I suggested to our head writer that Karma be that friend specifically because her being a lesbian would auto-block her from being datable but there are other characters that would be priority in the art budget.

Such as romance options and villains who'd need art. Sorry but you guys don't get to fuck the Shadow King.

or worse, Emma.

Why? She has her own money. In fact she'd likely be Null's sugar mommy.

I always forget that Evo was really, really gay. Specifically with dancing.

Just like it would be nice for Null to have some male friends

Colossus is coming next chapter and Wolverine has been in the works for ages. Budget is our limiting factor to Null being able to hang out with all the X-Guys.

it would be nice if there were more interactions with the other students. It doesn't need a lot of art, a bust or two and having them in a group shot CG would help make the games school feel more alive.

I could talk to the devs about Null overhearing conversations.

I am still waiting for Logan to give Null the dad talk.

He still needs to go through his arc with Kitty and Jubes. Both he and Laura are ignorant of her being her biological dad. Unlike Gabby who is genuinely a clone.

The fact that the execs were offended at the idea of consulting the source material writers (for certian runs) and mocked one of the creative leads for suggesting it was all I needed to hear.

This was the same thing for Game of Thrones, the Halo TV Show, and a lot of stuff. It just makes me sad.

The MCU had it's golden era around phase 3 when everything was filled to the brim with comic references that the previous and later phases seemed almost ashamed of.

Dare Devil and Punisher were the only Netflix Series that embraced it too.

I would have stopped a lot sooner, my cutoff would be 2010 at the latest but mid 00's would be better.

My cut off was One More Day.

(who shouldn't exist).

Got up to 251 of Uncanny X-Men, and this era is particularly hard to keep track of things.

Welcome to my life. I got to the point where I was trying to make a timeline for the dev team while the X-Men had FOUR ongoing books.

God, I hope they don't break up here.

They won't.

We have two rules.

1. Don't break up good relationships, even if Marvel did.

2. If we steal a girl, then we replace her with someone Null wouldn't have a reason to pursue so they don't die alone. Colossus, Cyclops, Gambit, and Angel all have girls lined up.

We're still debating over Wolverine because Buttholder and I can't come to an agreement of whether or not he should have Viper or one of his Japanese paramours. Because surprise, there's more than one... Well it was a surprise to me.

Scott would be a great friend for Null to have, especially as Null's power would let him at least take off his glasses once in a while without fear, something that he desperately craved in this era of comics.

Okay who leaked my outline for if we can find an artist to make gay Null a thing?

Sometimes the shows did a better job of things tbh

Literally every DC animated adaptation. Excluding The Killing Joke.

Might be a bit awkward with Jean, from my experience most women react badly when their current boyfriend ends up being friends with their ex.

Scott and Jean are actually on decent terms on Earth-69.

They just think the other has difficulty being flexible. Specifically Scott's mission mentality never turning off and Jean's obsession on being an overachiever rub each other the wrong way.

Other than that the most animosity between the two can be seen in the school's social media.

There are unresolved issues but that's going into spoilers for future story.

My preference would be Deadpool

I have outlined Null being part of the training session with Cable and the New Mutants during Deadpool's comic debut.

Also, I want Wade to break the fourth wall and mess with the player a bit for playing a porn game.

A lot of people want the exact opposite of that.

You bet your ass i am, the sheer goofyness that would ensue with Kitty and Kurt would be legendary.

Our head writer has confirmed that Kitty will be using the word "boop". iykyk

(if that is him)

It is.

The only reason it did anything to him was because it was made from silver. If it had been gold or something else she'd have been screwed.

Actually Gold and even Iron, without impurities, have both been used to ward off evil spirits. As well as many, many, other minerals and metals.

Silver isn't even exclusive to Christianity let alone the entire globe.

Before that it specifically says that just being in the presence of a cross should hurt him, so why did it not work with the star until there was actual physical contact? I'd say its implied that its the silver that its made of not the actual symbol

He explicitly stated it was a thing of belief.

It's the fact that it's silver. She could have had a silver cock pendant instead and achieved the same result.

He explicitly stated it was a thing of belief.

The point is down to strength of belief.

Exactly.

Regarding the comics, where exactly in the timeline does the game start at?

A few months after Giant Size X-Men.

Is it a two way street though? Is it amplified by Draculas beliefs as well?

No. Full blooded* Vampires don't have souls in Marvel. No soul, no love from the gods. This is why Morbius and Blade can use religious iconography. As they're not true undead vampires.

Because Marvel did a lot of Vampire stuff without planning, they realized they were screwed so they went World of Darkness' route and came up with vampires.

Storm was able to be cured because she was basically a "Thin Blood."

No, I have no idea how Jubilee got her soul back. Krakoa Era is very weird when it comes to souls.

*Pun most definitely intended.

Keep in mind as well that the Marvel universes is demonstrably home to gods and figures of various religions, Thor, Hercules and Loki to name a few.

And unlike the MCU, they are genuine divinity. Which is another reason why Marvel Zombies makes no sense.

Unless Null is going to go on a side quest filler arc and go help out Dr Strange, I don't think we'll have to worry about Dracula during the events of TNH.

The Blood Storm storyline was actually mainline. That's actually why she's involved with the Vampire stuff in Midnight Suns.

I set it up as a Halloween story. Up to the Dev Team if they want to adapt it.

Also I asked that further Marvel Vampire discussions go to the off topic thread on F95 or the Marvel Comics channel in Discord.

 

[Kid Incredible]

Anyone know how I can get the girls to befriend each other?

This is purely assumption based on my own observations. I have not been deep in the code, so I could be entirely wrong.
But from my observations it seems like some of the girls have "hard caps" on what "level" of friendship they will have.
I have gotten Rouge and Laura to be "Best friends(green)" with eachother and "good friend (light blue)" with Jean.
I can't say for certain that this works (again have not delved into the code) but it seemed to help on my last playthrough, to make a group chat with all the girls, and invite them all to study, classes, danger room training together.

 

[Kid Incredible]

I always forget that Evo was really, really gay. Specifically with dancing.

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That is not gay, that is an homage to Buffy the Vampire Slayer

 

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I always forget that Evo was really, really gay. Specifically with dancing.

There's nothing gay in it, Kitty x Rogue dance is the basis in all X-men franchise, also calling it gay IS gay in itself dude.

 

[Giltia]

In fact she'd likely be Null's sugar mommy.

We're still debating over Wolverine because Buttholder and I can't come to an agreement of whether or not he should have Viper or one of his Japanese paramours. Because surprise, there's more than one... Well it was a surprise to me.

I vote you only use Viper if she get possessed by Ogun and Logan stabs her... P.S Fuck Viper

 

[Knight]

That is not gay, that is an homage to Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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I was just about to post this.
Girls dancing together isn't gay like it is with men, girls can even make out without it being gay. Hypocritical, I know, but that's the way it is, women just aren't held to the same standards as men.

 

[Evil13]

No, I have no idea how Jubilee got her soul back. Krakoa Era is very weird when it comes to souls.

If I remember correctly, Jubilee's soul wasn't lost, but was severely afflicted with vampirism.

Shortly after the X-men had dealt with the vampires, Jubilee was recovered and left in the care of the X-men. The team went to Dr Strange, hoping that he would be to help cure her, though he was unable to provide a permanent cure. Doctor Voodoo, who was the Supreme Sorcerer at the time, was able to restore her humanity, even if she was still afflicted with vampirism.

Jubilee getting cured of the vampirism happened because Quentin Quire still had a fragment of the Phoenix Force in him and used it to both cure Jubilee of her vampirism and restored her mutant abilities. Jubilee's former teammate M was possessed by her brother Emplate (himself an energy vampire mutant) and had M throw Jubilee throw her out a window into the midday sun when Jubilee tried to protect students from Emplate.

 

[armond]

Maybe 20 years ago, have you seen what female mods on reddit look like now? Kitty is too pretty to stoop that low

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[UnoriginalUserName]

He explicitly stated it was a thing of belief.

So if she was a cock worshiper the necklace would work, as would a dildo. That'd be quite something to see.
Kitty : "Stay back, monster! Lest I unleash my ultimate weapon!"

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*Dracula suddenly burts into flames*
Kitty : "Ah, premature combustion. That's a shame, we were just getting started."

 

[Knight]

I suggested to our head writer that Karma be that friend specifically because her being a lesbian would auto-block her from being datable but there are other characters that would be priority in the art budget.

I would rethink that... making a pretty young girl a lesbian is just asking for trouble, there will be a lot of people who want to see her turned straight. Also, I know there is a lot of argument over it but I believe a straight man and woman can be genuine friends, it's more complicated and less common than with same sex friends but not impossible. It used to be much more common before the sexual liberation movement, sexual boundaries were much more strict on both sexes back then and it made friendships easier.

Why? She has her own money. In fact she'd likely be Null's sugar mommy.

You have never dated a rich girl have you? Oh boy, do I have some stories.
The more wealthy a women is the more she expects from any serious relationship, there is a reason women almost universally marry men who are more wealthy than them, this is true in every culture on earth going back thousands of years, it's genetically hardwired in to them.
And lets be honest, Emma is a bit of a gold digger.

Colossus is coming next chapter and Wolverine has been in the works for ages. Budget is our limiting factor to Null being able to hang out with all the X-Guys.

I could talk to the devs about Null overhearing conversations.

A few line here or there would be fine, just something nice to keep in mind. Not something that should be a priority over the main game. Saying hi while passing them in the hall or on their way out of the Danger room would be nice.

He still needs to go through his arc with Kitty and Jubes. Both he and Laura are ignorant of her being her biological dad. Unlike Gabby who is genuinely a clone.

That's not the impression I got reading the social media posts on Nulls phone, there were a couple posts where Logan was talking to her as if they were quite close.

My cut off was One More Day.

Everyone should cut off OMD.

Welcome to my life. I got to the point where I was trying to make a timeline for the dev team while the X-Men had FOUR ongoing books.

I am a big proponent of keeping universes separate and the cast to a reasonable size in any comic. A universe where the X-men and Avengers both exist concurrently doesn't make sense since any world ending threat either side faces would get the attention of the other. Something like Apocalypse or Thanos would absolutely get the the litany of superhero teams across marvel to get involved.

We're still debating over Wolverine because Buttholder and I can't come to an agreement of whether or not he should have Viper or one of his Japanese paramours. Because surprise, there's more than one... Well it was a surprise to me.

Logans not really the long term relationship type and his dick has been places no man should go; Namor is the only one who is more of a manwhore. Being single with the occasional bar hookup suits him more and if anything he needs to be celibate for little while to take account of all the places his sperm has ended up and reflect on his MANY mistakes. The fact that he tried to force himself on teen MJ in Peters body should tell you everything you need to know.

Okay who leaked my outline for if we can find an artist to make gay Null a thing?

Please no.
Null has enough to deal with woman wise.

Literally every DC animated adaptation. Excluding The Killing Joke.

I wouldn't say every but yeah, close to it. I have strong disagreements with the Death of Superman and how Kon-El was handled, they missed a prime opportunity to fix problems with his and Kals relationship going back decades. Same thing for the whole Super family really, DC just fumbles everything with Kon and Kara constantly.

I have outlined Null being part of the training session with Cable and the New Mutants during Deadpool's comic debut.

Does that mean that Madelyne is gonna be Scotts love interest? That will be interesting since she is effectively Jeans twin sister.

A lot of people want the exact opposite of that.

Point me at'em. A Wade that doesn't break the fourth wall is not a real Deadpool.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

That is not gay, that is an homage to Buffy the Vampire Slayer

I will note that the reference includes Willow. The gayest character on TV at the time.

There's nothing gay in it, Kitty x Rogue dance is the basis in all X-men franchise, also calling it gay IS gay in itself dude.
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Do... do you think I'm using the term gay as an insult? Dude this isn't 2006.

Also you must be new because I am very well known for my homosexual tendencies. I even made a joke about my plans for a gay Null in the post you quoted.

I was just about to post this.
Girls dancing together isn't gay like it is with men, girls can even make out without it being gay. Hypocritical, I know, but that's the way it is, women just aren't held to the same standards as men.

Are you guys intentionally ignoring the other screenshot of Jean and Jubilee literally grinding on each other?

This isn't even a hot take or a new claim. That Rogue and Kitty dance scene inspired a lot of fan art and fiction. Mostly by lesbians.

None of the characters are overtly gay but like the comics, there's a lot of subtext and I was commenting on Evo having even heavier subtext than the comics had at the time.

Again this isn't some hot take or brand new idea. It's not even the first time it's been mentioned in this or other forums.

Fuck Viper

If I have my way we'll be able to.

 

[Giltia]

Gay Null

I can only hope you one day find an artist willing.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

So if she was a cock worshiper the necklace would work, as would a dildo.

According to Marvel lore? Yes.

We wouldn't do it because we specifically set out to make a game that felt more realistic... despite being set in a world with super powers.

I would rethink that... making a pretty young girl a lesbian is just asking for trouble, there will be a lot of people who want to see her turned straight.

She's canonically a lesbian and unlike Iceman, she was one at the start. Not randomly decided several decades and four generations of comic readers later.

Also, I know there is a lot of argument over it but I don't believe a straight man and a woman can't be genuine friends, it's more complicated and less common than with guys but not impossible.

I agree with you but we'd have even more of an argument for Null to sleep with a girl if she's straight.

I have been pushing for the inclusion of platonic conversation topics and conversations in the sandbox so you don't get called a cheater for complimenting a girl's hair.

You have never dated a rich girl have you?

I rather not get into my history of dating and whether or not they were above or below me in economic status.

Besides that. Emma is a WOMAN.

And a Queen.

That's not the impression I got reading the social media posts on Nulls phone, there were a couple posts where Logan was talking to her as if they were quite close.

I'm not saying they don't have a bond. I'm just saying that he's not gonna be taking her to any father/daughter dances anytime soon.

A unverse where the X-men and Avengers both exist concurrently doesn't make sense since any world ending threat the either side faces would get the attention of the other. Something like Apocalypse would absolutely get the the litany of superhero teams across marvel to get involved.

In fairness Marvel started getting better about this. Secret Wars, Thanos, and Onslaught being good examples.

A lot of heroes, particularly Spiderman, would also team up if they crossed paths.

Logans not really the long term relationship type

Well this is mostly because Sabertooth keeps killing them.

Though he also dated Storm for quite a long time. In fact I believe he was dating Storm during the phoenix Saga.

The fact that he tried to force himself on teen MJ in Peters body should tell you everything you need to know.

In defense of 616 Wolverine, that was Ultimate Wolverine and he was a well known sexual deviant.

I wouldn't say every but yeah, close to it. I have strong disagreements with the death of Superman and how Kon-El was handled, they missed a prime opportunity to fix problems with his and Kals relationship going back decades. Same thing for the whole Super family really, DC just fumbles everything with Kon and Kara constantly.

This is a fair take and I agree.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I can only hope you one day find an artist willing.

Me too mein brudder.

 

[Kylar Stern]

We're still debating over Wolverine because @Buttholder and I can't come to an agreement of whether or not he should have Viper or one of his Japanese paramours. Because surprise, there's more than one... Well it was a surprise to me.

Personally, I like Jessan Hoan (Tyger Tiger) from Wolvie's days in Madripoor. Not really sure if I'd go with Mariko.... just no Mystique x Logan storyline.

 

[Knight]

Are you guys intentionally ignoring the other screenshot of Jean and Jubilee literally grinding on each other?

I am literally the one who posted it. That scene wasn't in any way gay, it was the girls hitting the dance floor to show off. Women do stuff like that, I have been present at parties when girls would make out just for attention. Go look up old videos of Mardi Gras, lots of women do far more raunchy things just for beads and the hooting and hollering of men watching.

Women don't perceive other women as a sexual threat or even as legit romantic partners the way they do men and so do things with them in a way they would never with a man.