So you're why there's so many Thirsty Jean memes.Fun Fact: I am a degree holding psychologist and had a direct hand in molding the absolute mess that is Jean.
Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]
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An excellent game! I really loved the combination of beautiful artwork, an interesting plot, and the character interactions. But this interest has a flip side, as I'd like to clarify some points that I couldn't find (or maybe missed) answers to within the game itself. Apologies in advance for my English.
While playing through "Hypothesis," I couldn't help but notice how much it differs from its progenitor and ideological inspiration in terms of the depiction of female characters (and not just their appearance!) and the presence of a plot. Despite having quite extensive sexual content, the girls in the game come across as real characters, with their own motivations, desires, and goals that exist outside of any particular relationship. But sometimes I don't understand these aspirations and desires, or certain moments. For example:
Jean and her quirk about "fake incest," where she first suggests the protagonist call her "big sister," and then even starts acting like one. I'm not against it, but the way she plays this role feels somewhat... naive and forced. She doesn't give the impression of someone who's turned on by incest, even if it's pretend. And if it's part of "domination and control," her idea of control seems pretty liberal. Is this a bug or a feature?
Jean's invitation for a first date, while delivered with confidence, makes it seem like she's subconsciously expecting a refusal right up to the last moment. If you discuss relationships with her and voice your Napoleonic plans about a harem, she won't be thrilled. But the dialogue gives the impression that Jean isn't talking to a new student, but to a mix of Brad Pitt and Apollo, at whose feet women fall with a snap of a finger. Yet Jean herself is hotter than hell, the top psyker around, smart, beautiful, a Komsomol member, an activist, and an athlete... I mean, she's the kind of girl with a trail of broken hearts behind her, and not just from guys. Is it just me, or does she subconsciously value herself much lower than I just valued her?
Jean's "domination" on the first date consists of her timidly asking if she can order for you. On one hand, it's quite cute; on the other hand, it's so sad that I'd even eat sawdust soup if it helped her feel more confident. And in later dates, she doesn't act like a tyrant/dominant/abuser at all. The peak of her "domination" is that she wants to order for you (from what you yourself choose!), and on movie nights, you watch documentaries instead of feature films. Considering I like them about as much as she does, I feel zero pressure. During sex scenes, she acts with full dedication, and again, I didn't see any pressure. Is her quirk simply a desire for control, or has she already ordered a flugelhorn, a whip, and an SS leather coat from Amazon, and the delivery is just delayed?
The lack of a sexual relationship between Jean and Scott – is it part of their character, or players' ability to see NTR everywhere women aren't throwing themselves at their, and only their, dick? As I understood from the plot, Jean (18+) dated Scott (18+) for several years. Yet, when Jean suggests dating the protagonist, she gets offended if you ask if she's single, and mentions that she and Scott haven't even kissed. Meanwhile, the player is offered to date and get horizontal so easily and quickly it's almost awkward. Is the translation in my version of the game just that distinctive, or did the Jean-Scott pair really decide to take things that slowly?
The protagonist's regeneration – does it work by accelerating biological processes (healing), or by restoring him to the health level he had before being harmed? In the finale, his skin chars and immediately restores, then his flesh, and then his body burns down to the bones! And it restores almost instantly. It was epic, but fantastical even by the game's standards. My question is, with enough energy, can the protagonist restore himself from a skeleton, or is brain damage a one-way trip?
Why did everything stop when Null touched Jean? He can suppress her powers, not the ones trying to fry him. And were they even trying to fry him, or was it just a test flap of the wings?
Does Rouge have an inferiority complex? During the first meetings, it seemed she avoided others because of her ability, but then she says herself, and the plot reveals, that there are other reasons. But what they are, she won't admit, and I didn't understand. Is the answer in her romance route, or will it be revealed later, even on the "friendship" path?
Why does the protagonist have such a strange set of powers? It started simple – negating/suppressing mutant powers, and only mutant powers (it was funny with Juggernaut). But then, as someone rightly said in the school chat, it's like he's really pulling superpowers out of his ass. Regeneration and endurance, then energy absorption, and as players, we see the potential to upgrade to X-ray vision and shapeshifting. A strange and inconsistent set.
And what does the Null Hypothesis have to do with it?
While playing through "Hypothesis," I couldn't help but notice how much it differs from its progenitor and ideological inspiration in terms of the depiction of female characters (and not just their appearance!) and the presence of a plot. Despite having quite extensive sexual content, the girls in the game come across as real characters, with their own motivations, desires, and goals that exist outside of any particular relationship. But sometimes I don't understand these aspirations and desires, or certain moments. For example:
Jean and her quirk about "fake incest," where she first suggests the protagonist call her "big sister," and then even starts acting like one. I'm not against it, but the way she plays this role feels somewhat... naive and forced. She doesn't give the impression of someone who's turned on by incest, even if it's pretend. And if it's part of "domination and control," her idea of control seems pretty liberal. Is this a bug or a feature?
Jean's invitation for a first date, while delivered with confidence, makes it seem like she's subconsciously expecting a refusal right up to the last moment. If you discuss relationships with her and voice your Napoleonic plans about a harem, she won't be thrilled. But the dialogue gives the impression that Jean isn't talking to a new student, but to a mix of Brad Pitt and Apollo, at whose feet women fall with a snap of a finger. Yet Jean herself is hotter than hell, the top psyker around, smart, beautiful, a Komsomol member, an activist, and an athlete... I mean, she's the kind of girl with a trail of broken hearts behind her, and not just from guys. Is it just me, or does she subconsciously value herself much lower than I just valued her?
Jean's "domination" on the first date consists of her timidly asking if she can order for you. On one hand, it's quite cute; on the other hand, it's so sad that I'd even eat sawdust soup if it helped her feel more confident. And in later dates, she doesn't act like a tyrant/dominant/abuser at all. The peak of her "domination" is that she wants to order for you (from what you yourself choose!), and on movie nights, you watch documentaries instead of feature films. Considering I like them about as much as she does, I feel zero pressure. During sex scenes, she acts with full dedication, and again, I didn't see any pressure. Is her quirk simply a desire for control, or has she already ordered a flugelhorn, a whip, and an SS leather coat from Amazon, and the delivery is just delayed?
The lack of a sexual relationship between Jean and Scott – is it part of their character, or players' ability to see NTR everywhere women aren't throwing themselves at their, and only their, dick? As I understood from the plot, Jean (18+) dated Scott (18+) for several years. Yet, when Jean suggests dating the protagonist, she gets offended if you ask if she's single, and mentions that she and Scott haven't even kissed. Meanwhile, the player is offered to date and get horizontal so easily and quickly it's almost awkward. Is the translation in my version of the game just that distinctive, or did the Jean-Scott pair really decide to take things that slowly?
The protagonist's regeneration – does it work by accelerating biological processes (healing), or by restoring him to the health level he had before being harmed? In the finale, his skin chars and immediately restores, then his flesh, and then his body burns down to the bones! And it restores almost instantly. It was epic, but fantastical even by the game's standards. My question is, with enough energy, can the protagonist restore himself from a skeleton, or is brain damage a one-way trip?
Why did everything stop when Null touched Jean? He can suppress her powers, not the ones trying to fry him. And were they even trying to fry him, or was it just a test flap of the wings?
Does Rouge have an inferiority complex? During the first meetings, it seemed she avoided others because of her ability, but then she says herself, and the plot reveals, that there are other reasons. But what they are, she won't admit, and I didn't understand. Is the answer in her romance route, or will it be revealed later, even on the "friendship" path?
Why does the protagonist have such a strange set of powers? It started simple – negating/suppressing mutant powers, and only mutant powers (it was funny with Juggernaut). But then, as someone rightly said in the school chat, it's like he's really pulling superpowers out of his ass. Regeneration and endurance, then energy absorption, and as players, we see the potential to upgrade to X-ray vision and shapeshifting. A strange and inconsistent set.
And what does the Null Hypothesis have to do with it?
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These are all some very violent implications for the old canuck, he keeps getting cloned.
*Confused and angry wolverine noises*
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Your "heroes" from the X-men aren't capable of giving you the additions to slots in the store that you want. Only one organization and the strength of it's beautiful leader can:
Hail Hydra
An addition, not replacement to the achievement store outfits.
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You are an infiltrated Hydra member , accidentally you fall in love with laura , but ... she got a big Daddy complex ? no problem , improvise, adapt, overcome ! Get the Daddy suit she needs to complete your mission soldier !
Heil Hydra !
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Or you contract an xray vision power when you nullifying Scott by accident ? And now you need his visor to contain your new power ?
No problem , steal the suit and visor inside locker rooms !
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But you are always being a nerd , and you need your favorite geek shirt ? No problem , you got the goku one in your package and you can still buy the Thundercat in exchange of your special coins !
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thx to "@The_Man_With_No_Name" for giving me the idea !
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-null-hypothesis-v0-8b1-ron-chon.138294/post-17602537
=> the wolverine "daddy suit" and geek/nerd are compatible with everything from his mods
*** for the moment , cyclop face is not compatible with "denton shades" , it's replacing the white face , i will make a "venull suit cyclop version" if someone need it !
Choose only one !
If you want only the suit , delete the head and ears inside \game\images\interface\full\portrait !
=> 2 versions of cyclop face , one without suit , plus modified "fin ears" to match !
goku and thundercat are replacing orange shirt (vanilla?) and kurosaki robe ( accesible by phone )
i will put all decompressed assets inside the zip for who wants change the initial assignement to get all the infos for that
+ if you want to replace it , i put this Hydra background inside too .
Logan Hair : Laura daddy complex stil not fully satisfied , so you make your move , a haircut ?
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=> set to first green hair
Scot mod , only choose one , all instruction inside
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++++====> If someone got the trick to Add more slots for possibles suits like the venull one with a mod , he will be my hero! Or Rob Chon , if you read this ... Maybe ... who know ...You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Finally, my lifelong dream of being Hydra Bob!
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This was just to add things to the store. It requires the creation of a .rpy file that matches what you drop in the portrait section. Unzip the files and look at them and you will see what I mean. For the .rpy, use "Visual Studio Code" and play "mad libs" and change the names in the bracket areas. You can use the Hydra file as a template and fill in the name changes you want.you are my hero ... but now i have to re remod all my work ... Heil Hydra !
+++ => my lord can do the same to add more haircuts ?
thx in advance
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For adding hair, it's in a different spot and a different new .rpy. Sorry, but not right now, but I'll find it later.
Edit: From what I can see at the moment for adding hair, you have to change the number of hairs allowed in the game\interfaces\customization.rpy from " % 8" to however many hairs you are adding. But they have to equal the exact amount of hair for a given color or else the game crashes.
Example: If you add a "hair_8_blonde.webp" then in the .rpy it will be 9(bald is hair 0)
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Yeah, I got that's what you roughly wanted to do. It was just memorable that you suddenly went off the deep end and had a rant worthy of a deranged supervillain obsessed with arbitrary deadlines.
I'm also rested and ready to spend the entirety of my free day reading through the rest of the remaining thread and then it's on to The Church Of Kurt thread. Yes, I know. I just happen to have a lot of free time these couple of days and at least I'd get to know all the in jokes, memes and occasional interesting comic book fact.
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Couldn't help but reply to this as I'm starting my second thread browsing session. I have said this before and I will continue to say it again. I just can't get excited for any of Gunsmoke's games since they all involve pimping out beloved superheroines (and supervillainesses) like whores after turning them into fuckdolls with an established character as the main character, it's the same issue I have with Doomination.Quick edit and I agree.
A little mean, but I tire of "mind power them into fuckdolls" as a premise for comic book lewd games.
I understand that they're simply made for a different audience and it's just my own preferences stopping me from trying it out. They have such amazing art too, if only these games didn't have mandatory pimping/sharing... Sadly for people like me, The Null Hypothesis is the only game of its kind right now, hopefully one day TNH will have a DC counterpart like Something Unlimited does with Doomination.
Anyways, back to scrolling.
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To have something override hair/skin like venull suit? I think I found it in customization as well. It's a bit more involved to not break things. I'll figure out the exact parsing later maybe. I'm not a coder and just know enough to read things and do edits so it's not really my thing.
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Still going through the thread but I've been sidetracked for a bit because I've been trying to find the Q&A where it explains that the Free Love movement is more successful on Earth 69 hence why polycules/polygamy currently have the same status and acceptance as same sex marriage a couple decades ago but for the life of me I can't seem to find it again...
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Wait, is Madame Hydra/Viper in the running for Null's polycule too?! Or are you just saying we'll be able to fuck up her plans? It's probably the latter isn't it? Or I'm just thinking too much about this...?
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you are my hero ... but now i have to re remod all my work ... Heil Hydra !
+++ => my lord can do the same to add more haircuts ?
thx in advance
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Figured out the adding more full body cover outfits thing.
I was beating my head trying to figure out why I couldn't just add things to a parenthesis like Thing != ("a", "b"):
Turns out just by changing ronchonbon's "!=" to "not in" then things work.
That's why I hate coding. Not my thing.
If anyone wants something else coded from me soon, I wish for you to share a closed space with a perpetually horny and agitated Scarlett Witch who doesn't have her vibrator anymore.
Anyway kazzari , all you have to do I think is add the name of your outfit in the customization.rpy with a " , " in the interfaces folder after my "hydra" one. Or just replace it. So ("Venull_suit", "Hydra_Soldier_Outfit", "you") :
Updating the Hydra Soldier now.
I was beating my head trying to figure out why I couldn't just add things to a parenthesis like Thing != ("a", "b"):
Turns out just by changing ronchonbon's "!=" to "not in" then things work.
That's why I hate coding. Not my thing.
If anyone wants something else coded from me soon, I wish for you to share a closed space with a perpetually horny and agitated Scarlett Witch who doesn't have her vibrator anymore.
Anyway kazzari , all you have to do I think is add the name of your outfit in the customization.rpy with a " , " in the interfaces folder after my "hydra" one. Or just replace it. So ("Venull_suit", "Hydra_Soldier_Outfit", "you") :
Updating the Hydra Soldier now.
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Nope. They are working on it now while finishing up the last goodies to add to chapter 1. There are preview pictures floating around page 1029 of Storm, Emma and Dazzler, and a picture of Kitty Pryde under the post you quoted.
My main problem with Gunsmoke is that there is almost no hope of him finishing SU before the heat death of the universe.
Discord, maybe?
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That's another factor too as at least The Null Hypothesis team have taken steps to prevent themselves falling into the same tech debt and traps as oh so many games have done *cough Summertime Saga cough* so we've got reasons to be hopeful.
Yeah, I do recall seeing it on Discord but I can't seem to find it in "earth69 q and a" despite it being the most likely spot I saw it the first time.
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I don't remember if there was anything formal like a bullet point q&a about the sexual revolution differences like the Marvel lore differences. Boots talked about it often here and on Discord as well as there being bits and pieces in the game. I made a summary here about it from what I read and gathered around, with Boots confirming it's decently accurate a couple of posts down from it.
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Right, so it was your post where I got the info from. I misremembered as seeing it on Discord after I joined and looked around in the various "Q and As".
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What the hell?! So the jokes that came out when Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Elizabeth Olsen who played Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were cast as husband and wife in the 2014 Godzilla film are comic accurate?!
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In Ultimate Marvel I believe it was. There are a ton of comic book continuities, so many contradictory things are "comic book accurate". Don't sweat it too much or take every version of a character as the same cohesive character history.
And for the love of all, please don't drag certain things up(you'll know) from the end of August.
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