Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[Null Void Abyss]

The optimizations and nuance are important because we have to see her itty bitty titties bounce with every square inch of our penis that enters Kitty ass at a smooth 120FPS at 4K. And everyone must experience it, not just those with an RTX 5090.

 

[The UnHolyOne]

Download unren (just google or search this forum), place it in the same folder as the game's .exe and run unren, there's an option to turn on dev console. Then Ctrl+O or Ctrl+D in-game.

done this, doesnt do anything

 

[SSM12]

Trying to play past saves in the new version, doesn't work.

 

[Tommy7358]

Trying to play past saves in the new version, doesn't work.

I figured I'll try to combine the posts that answer most if not all of the most common questions about the game in one single post. It probably won't work but at least I can say I tried. Plus I or others can just quote this one post to answer those questions.

Spoiler: Roadmap for upcoming versions.

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AND YES: YOU HAVE TO START A NEW GAME FOR VERSION 0.8C AS OLD SAVES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.

What's new in version 0.8c in a detailed write-up by merleved (Also illustrates the reasons why 0.8c is not save compatible.)

Chapter 2's Love Interests are Storm, Dazzler and Kitty. Emma Frost will make her appearance as an antagonist in Chapter 2 but will not be romanceable until later chapters.

Gameplay FAQ by Hazeti (Even with the overhaul introduced in v0.8c most of what i said here still holds true, the roots still remain the same in the game)

All the guides by freddygonzo:
Deco Guide
Friendship Guide
Weather Guide
Guide: how to A+ your girls
Same as with Hazeti's Gameplay FAQ, most of the info in freddygonzo's guides is still applicable.

Looks like I get to use this for the first time and it certainly won't be not the last.

 

[SSM12]

...seriously we have to restart at the beginning? All that progress we've made in the past versions means nothing?

 

[NexivSelecaf]

Tommy7358: Just sit back and enjoy the ride. It happens every time, and will happen every time.

I have two bags of ranch flavored sunflower seeds, and an urge to play Jedi Academy.

...seriously we have to restart at the beginning? All that progress we've made in the past versions means nothing?

Did you cum?

 

[harem.king]

Version: 0.8c

crashes on load for old saves from v0.8b.
checking the discord I quickly found this bug report and replies which indicates you need to restart the game and can not import old saves. which is annoying in a grind game.

 

[salscou]

i'm not against it, but i wanna know why people want this type of thing a lot

takes a lot of extra art and writing to accomplish, cause there's a lot of variables and shit

or something idk i'm not a coder

Making a female player would require a remake of chunks of the story entirely.

Not to mention something that would piss me off, if we cant get Karma and other female X-men that are lesbians (wich i completely agree on mind you, i like respecting the stablished characters when part ofthe charm of TNHis precisely that), then how the hell would that work out with the girls that have never been anything but straight? you cant have both things be true at the same time without engagin in some serious hypocrisy.

 

[jamonserrano]

There goes another game that I'll have to ignore until it's 100% confirmed that saves won't be deleted every few updates.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Making a female player would require a remake of chunks of the story entirely.

Not to mention something that would piss me off, if we cant get Karma and other female X-men that are lesbians (wich i completely agree on mind you, i like respecting the stablished characters when part ofthe charm of TNHis precisely that), then how the hell would that work out with the girls that have never been anything but straight? you cant have both things be true at the same time without engagin in some serious hypocrisy.

If you don't mind if it's a lesbian game so not really using the full potential of an fmc X-Men setup, where it would be a world where "Jean gay beamed every woman", then fmc Null isn't that difficult.
But yeah, that would be technically matching the definition of having an fmc choice without really capturing the spirit of it.

 

[noobling]

has there actually been any advancement in story at all recently? seems every update just remaking something, not a complaint, just want to check before I download update

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

There goes another game that I'll have to ignore until it's 100% confirmed that saves won't be deleted every few updates.

Serious question, but when was the last time saves didn't work? Version 0.3? I genuinely don't remember.

 

[SHADOWM00N]

There goes another game that I'll have to ignore until it's 100% confirmed that saves won't be deleted every few updates.

You really don't follow the thread, do you? It was stated several times that this will be the last time a new save will need to be created.

 

[salscou]

has there actually been any advancement in story at all recently? seems every update just remaking something, not a complaint, just want to check before I download update

The devs have made it very clear for a long while, they are not going for chapter 2 until the base game is fully finished so they dont have to tackle new mechanics and such in the future that might break the game.

New story content and the new 3 LIs will come with 1.1, we are on 0.8.

If you don't mind if it's a lesbian game so not really using the full potential of an fmc X-Men setup, where it would be a world where "Jean gay beamed every woman", then fmc Null isn't that difficult.
But yeah, that would be technically matching the definition of having an fmc choice without really capturing the spirit of it.

I appreciate the choices mattering if thats the focus of the game.
If later down the road, they made a femMC, and her only having a chance with girls that are bisexual or lesbians, i would whole heartedly approve, just like i approve of our boy not having dick powers to dehydratate spaghetti.

 

[silentdevil]

So, on a scale of Warframe to JRPG, how grindy is this game and is it actually worth it to go through?

because at face value this looks like a lot to manage when I just kinda want a fun-ish trainer game set in the X-men universe.

 

[NexivSelecaf]

You boys have fun. I'm done for tonight. Try not to incur the wrath of the mods by being too mean to the randos. I don't want any of my posts deleted.

 

[salscou]

So, on a scale of Warframe to JRPG, how grindy is this game and is it actually worth it to go through?

because at face value this looks like a lot to manage when I just kinda want a fun-ish trainer game set in the X-men universe.

Less trainer, think more dating sim and X-men slice of life simulator.

 

[FP00]

So, on a scale of Warframe to JRPG, how grindy is this game and is it actually worth it to go through?

because at face value this looks like a lot to manage when I just kinda want a fun-ish trainer game set in the X-men universe.

At worst, I had issues with trust, but even that is minor, and you can very easily build up points by doing the quests and activities with all the girls.

 

[Tommy7358]

The art budget is always the main barrier. It is 'working out' right now because Ron is paying a large chunk of it out of pocket and a handful of bigger donors are paying about 70% of the rest. It's sustainable but slow.

Ron has said before and I will repeat again that the vast majority of the budget is for artwork. A major code update was recently completed because it was deeply necessary and the art budget had slowed the artwork down enough that the coders could focus on the code update since the game's overall progress was bottlenecked by art.

The Patreon page has 5300 members. Only 775 pay anything at all. The other 4525 are just lurking and waiting for content. Of the 775 paid members, fewer than 200 people comprise 70% of the Patreon's income. Most of the other 575 pay 5 dollars or less, which is certainly appreciated and put to good use. It just doesn't go terribly far.

This is all to say that the speed of the art completion determines the speed of game updates. The amount of income brought in through the Patreon determines the speed of art completion. If most of the 5300 people signed up for Patreon updates paid even $1 per month, all of the art for 1.1 would be done in a few months and the rest of the devs could be paid to finish the writing and coding in the same period.

200 people are paying for 70% of this game. With over 5000 Patreon members and an F95 thread well past 1000 pages.

Ron has always been extremely transparent about where the money goes. He isn't using it to gas up his car or pay his rent. It all goes directly to the game and most of it goes to art.

'Feature creep' doesn't mean jack shit when the art costs are $5000/month and Patreon is only covering 3500 of that because thousands of people care enough to complain about the game's dev speed but not enough to pay a lousy buck a month.

Thats pretty much a consistent problem with most indie developers and games nowadays. Especially having your game accessible for free on this site doesn't help with the financial problems. Sure, your games get more attention but at what cost. Only a lucky select few broke that barrier and have established a decent number of paid members.

It’s not just about generosity—it’s about sustainability. It’s a broken model, and unfortunately, it’s one that a lot of indie devs are stuck with unless they pivot to paid releases or find alternative funding.

The irony is that the community clearly cares—they’re active, vocal, and passionate. Without financial support, caring doesn’t translate into progress. That disconnect is what slows everything down.

I think most people are just looking for a game to goon to, thus the majority who aren't donating. The Null Hypothesis is the first game that made me use F95Zone as an actual forum instead of just a porn game repository with info since I made this account.

Absolutely. My brain just fundamentally cannot process the disconnect. I've been on this planet for 5 decades. I've had good years and tough ones. At no point ever would it even occur to me to be unwilling to kick a single dollar a month to something that makes me happy. Especially knowing that if I did do that, and other people did too, it makes the whole product exponentially better for all of us.

And I should mention btw that I am not a dev, not a member of the team, and not affiliated with TNH in any way other than being a donor and a fan.

I just flat out do not understand being passionate enough about something to spend fuck-knows how many hours each month playing the game or talking on this forum about the game and yet not caring enough to throw in a lousy buck a month. It just doesn't compute.

Honestly, I was already more hyped for The Null Hypothesis than any other game or media in years and it was your post here that gave me the last kick in the ass to donate near the end of my 250 page journey through the thread. And then I found out Patreon doesn't accept my card while PayPal is semi functional in my country...

And so I went on DMs with Ron where he thanked me for the interest but he wasn't interested in managing another platform like Subscribestar. So I went to the next option of DMing Buttholder, he said both Ron and himself were willing to accept a commission from me and add it to the game as official content but that there were several more rules than usual which I didn't mind. However, because I mainly wanted events for Emma and considering she is far from being added to the game as a Love Interest yet I deferred to her being released first.

Well, I was already inclined to donate and my rambling just now was to add context, now with this post of yours I got off my ass again and donated a couple Ko-Fis to the next best thing which is Buttholder's Ko-Fi since I still haven't solved my Patreon card issue.

It's a free game still in Beta. The game is not in its official release state. It is not at all uncommon to have incompatible saves during Beta development. Especially given that the last 4 updates did not require new saves.

Your achievement points carry over. If you actually invested as much time as you imply, then you should have more than enough achievement points to buy Perks that reduce the grind by 75%.

So Achievements are 100% not effected? Then I'll have to go edit my All-In-One post.

Idk, I guess they want more agency. I don't think it's going to be added. If it wasn't planned in the initial stages of game development its most likely not going to be put in the game.

Making a female player would require a remake of chunks of the story entirely.

Not to mention something that would piss me off, if we cant get Karma and other female X-men that are lesbians (wich i completely agree on mind you, i like respecting the stablished characters when part ofthe charm of TNHis precisely that), then how the hell would that work out with the girls that have never been anything but straight? you cant have both things be true at the same time without engagin in some serious hypocrisy.

I frankly don't support adding female Null to the game because of the resources and effort that would be needed to make it even remotely close to male Null without half-assing it. The List Of No itself says that it won't be that far off from basically making two separate TNH games at once and that's not even including the other issues like the ones you talked about.

Plus with the current funding situation as it is: "sustainable but slow with Ron covering the remainder from his pocket"; unless someone who really REALLY wants to play female Null ponies up the money for both female Null and whatever extra amount that would be needed to make it worth it I just don't see it happening.

If you don't mind if it's a lesbian game so not really using the full potential of an fmc X-Men setup, where it would be a world where "Jean gay beamed every woman", then fmc Null isn't that difficult.
But yeah, that would be technically matching the definition of having an fmc choice without really capturing the spirit of it.

That feels like a copout though. And it still doesn't solve the material difficulties of making two games at once.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

So, on a scale of Warframe to JRPG, how grindy is this game and is it actually worth it to go through?

because at face value this looks like a lot to manage when I just kinda want a fun-ish trainer game set in the X-men universe.

Love points, Trust points, friend rating between girls, exp. Those are basically the only things that you grind. The group activities that increase friend ratings also increases trust points, and things that increase exp also increase trust if you do them with a girl. So it's not that terrible.