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Bosss

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I'd like you sto show me a game with focus on game play that has enough content to satisfy you after around a year of active development... I'd say if there is any it's less than 5.
Most games focus on Porn and hardly have any game play, and some are even lack luster on content.
Year? This game is at least 3.5 years from development.
I will try.
Once a Porn a Time
Four Elements Trainer
Love & Sex Second Base
Rogue-like: Evolution
Nymphomania Priestess
Renryuu: Ascension
Dilmur


More then 5 :)
"Most games focus on Porn" Yep, coz this is a PORN GAMES SITE. Which/what game(s) you expected me to found here, cozy adventures, kids friendly games? Puzzles? Help the old lady to cross the road?

Let's be honest, outside the grind wall and text/dialog, game is almost empty. One village, one half city(guild and a shop), and a few backgrounds (just pic). A few girls. 2 we can fuck, 1 can dance and that`s it. With 1 we can play a light bdsm game. Manage girls - no. Manage village - yes and no. Yes you can, but it`s not so many option to begin with, and where is a "bug". Your My army is 9k goblins assassins, guess how many gold they take away from me? 150k in one week! I get it, that we must capture towns, cities and divide this expense between them. But there is a problem - there is no cities available to captured in quantities we need. So dev add a mechanic which broke the game for players. The only solution is cheat. You think implement this system before you give ability to get cities is ok?

You may ask, wait a minute, why do have such big army. That`s because game tells me that succubus will soon come. After finishing the game, I get it, we don't need such army for now.
This game already expanded to a strategic one, but lack personal content. Story line goes far beyond the personal and characters contents.
 

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Year? This game is at least 3.5 years from development.
I will try.
Once a Porn a Time
Four Elements Trainer
Love & Sex Second Base
Rogue-like: Evolution
Nymphomania Priestess
Renryuu: Ascension
Dilmur


More then 5 :)
"Most games focus on Porn" Yep, coz this is a PORN GAMES SITE. Which/what game(s) you expected me to found here, cozy adventures, kids friendly games? Puzzles? Help the old lady to cross the road?

Let's be honest, outside the grind wall and text/dialog, game is almost empty. One village, one half city(guild and a shop), and a few backgrounds (just pic). A few girls. 2 we can fuck, 1 can dance and that`s it. With 1 we can play a light bdsm game. Manage girls - no. Manage village - yes and no. Yes you can, but it`s not so many option to begin with, and where is a "bug". Your My army is 9k goblins assassins, guess how many gold they take away from me? 150k in one week! I get it, that we must capture towns, cities and divide this expense between them. But there is a problem - there is no cities available to captured in quantities we need. So dev add a mechanic which broke the game for players. The only solution is cheat. You think implement this system before you give ability to get cities is ok?

You may ask, wait a minute, why do have such big army. That`s because game tells me that succubus will soon come. After finishing the game, I get it, we don't need such army for now.
This game already expanded to a strategic one, but lack personal content. Story line goes far beyond the personal and characters contents.
I'm not going to fight with you too much because that's fairly off topic, but as Evangelion said, Mirrodin had to take a long hiatus (something like 4 years?). So the actual development on it is significantly less than your other examples.

To whit:

Once A Porn a Time - 5 uninterrupted years
FET - 8 years
Love & Sex: Second Base - 6 years and two abandoned games before that
Rogue-Like: evolution - 8 years and always buggy as hell
Nymphomania Priestess - 4 years
Renryuu: Ascension - 8 years
Dlimur - 7 years

I'm just going by the ages of the threads on this site, so they may actually be older than that. Yes, the Pleasuremancer came to F95 in 2018. But about 4 years in the middle was hiatus because Mirrodin literally couldn't afford to work on it.

Given your complaints, maybe just come back in a few years, or find another game?
 

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As N3wb_4_l1f3 said, but to add to that the only game in your list truely concentrating on Gameplay would be Renryuu Ascension.
FET if you were nice... the rest? simple dateing Sim VNs
though I haven't tried Dilmur, so potentiallly +1, still that's 3 games not 5+
 
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Hey, great game with beautiful arts. I like the story so far, I'll keep an eye on the game and I wish you luck for the next :).
However I got an error which blocks me from progressing in main and autumn quest. I can't go in magii-serre, I got this :

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 609, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1858, in execute
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1858, in execute
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1876, in execute
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1876, in keywords
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1876, in <module>
AttributeError: 'Jeu' object has no attribute 'serre_bordel_mana_max'

I don't know if it's linked but I used console commands to give me more stats/money to alleviate the grind, although it didn't cause me any problems on the last version. In fact I didn't had problem on the new version as well until I asked Camilla to take care of magii-serre. Is there any fix or work around ?
Did you start a new game ? or old save ? Because normaly the serre_bordel_mana_max attribute is correct with new game in 0.3.46 ?
 

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Did you start a new game ? or old save ? Because normaly the serre_bordel_mana_max attribute is correct with new game in 0.3.46 ?
If the save file is old it's stored jeu object doesn't have serre_bordel_mana_max property we rely on there. Starting from new creates jeu with it, but loading old save seems missing an update code to check and add this property. Made a quick fix - just copy this file to game folder and it'll fix old saves on load against this bug.

Or wait for next updates from DarkMirrodin
 
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Bosss

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I'm not going to fight with you too much because that's fairly off topic, but as Evangelion said, Mirrodin had to take a long hiatus (something like 4 years?). So the actual development on it is significantly less than your other examples.

To whit:

Once A Porn a Time - 5 uninterrupted years
FET - 8 years
Love & Sex: Second Base - 6 years and two abandoned games before that
Rogue-Like: evolution - 8 years and always buggy as hell
Nymphomania Priestess - 4 years
Renryuu: Ascension - 8 years
Dlimur - 7 years

I'm just going by the ages of the threads on this site, so they may actually be older than that. Yes, the Pleasuremancer came to F95 in 2018. But about 4 years in the middle was hiatus because Mirrodin literally couldn't afford to work on it.

Given your complaints, maybe just come back in a few years, or find another game?
Don`t say where of what I should do and you will not hear where you should go.

So the actual development on it is significantly less than your other examples. Okay step by step:
1. Evangelion said - "I'd like you sto show me a game with focus on game play that has enough content to satisfy you after around a year of active development ". I gave, you don`t happy.
2. Once A Porn a Time. Chapter 2. A liitle bit more then one year of active dev. Any problem, objection?
3. Love & Sex: Second Base. Now updated about 1-2 times in a month. Each update gives about 15-30 min of gameplay. Multiply it time to one year scale and you will get about 15 min in a month x 12 = 180 min = 3 hours of active gameplay in a year.
4.Rogue-Like: evolution. 2 full animated (yes, not smooth, not complicated but still animated)and implemented girls in a year or 1 year +1-3 month.
5.Nymphomania Priestess. Each update in approx 3 month. Each update 30-60-90 min of gameplay. We take 30, so 30 x 12 = 360min = 6 hours.
6. Renryuu: Ascension. So much complicated game, with with dozens of characters.....and vast game lore, storyline, location etc. A least 2 days of strait gameplay to reach end of updates.
7. Dlimur. A long one, basically finished one. A 2-3 days of gameplay. Or if you skip all scenes 12-15 hours.

Now lets do the basic math. If we remove grind wall... no let`s start with a easy one. Easy one. How long it would take to reach end of the current version on a second run + grind, I will say 3-5 hours. Sound real and good to me. How long it would take without grind.. 1-1.5 hour. How much content it has... 1 whore, 1 bdsm whore, 2 dancers, 1 dark girl, one bandit girl and one knight and a princess. 8 girls in a total. I think I remembered them all. Ok. Maybe all on those 8 have a great storyline, it`s detailed, complicated, with twists.. nope a few CG. And among 8 girls, 3 of them still don`t have even a nude body in a game files.

For how long this game dev`s up, for a 4 or 4.5 years. Good, doing interpolation, we have to wait about 6-8-10 years, to get about 50% amount of content in a game like Renryuu: Ascension. And I don`t speak about sex content, just storyline.
And if we will try combine gameplay and sex part of the game, for how long it will take to reach Nymphomania Priestess ? Big open world, scenes, TOOOONS of CG, twists, lewdness, kinks hmm...

N3wb_4_l1f3 can you please say how much time the current game will need to reach Nymphomania Priestess, or a Dlimur.
As you said : "Dlimur - 7 years". So we must see about 15 hours of gameplay in the "The pleasuremancer" for a 4 years. Right?
Or Renryuu: "Ascension - 8 years". At least 24 hours of gameplay for a 4 years, right.

Or what, it`s another game, you don`t understand... don`t compare.
 

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Don`t say where of what I should do and you will not hear where you should go.

So the actual development on it is significantly less than your other examples. Okay step by step:
1. Evangelion said - "I'd like you sto show me a game with focus on game play that has enough content to satisfy you after around a year of active development ". I gave, you don`t happy.
I did and Renryu Ascension had less actual content after a year than this game, the time was used to setup all the game mechanics, improve and change them... they are still at it from time to time and no content is added dureing those Updates.
And You still used VNs and Dateing Sims in your examples as "Gameplay Focused" games... so your point is still void.
2. Once A Porn a Time. Chapter 2. A liitle bit more then one year of active dev. Any problem, objection?
A VN... while I haven't played those don't come with gameplay, the community is pretty harsh to people useing that Tag wrongly.
3. Love & Sex: Second Base. Now updated about 1-2 times in a month. Each update gives about 15-30 min of gameplay. Multiply it time to one year scale and you will get about 15 min in a month x 12 = 180 min = 3 hours of active gameplay in a year.
Gameplay as in Story Updates... nothing much in variables except for affection as far as I recall... to many girls with to swallow gameplay or stories is what I remember from playing it.
4.Rogue-Like: evolution. 2 full animated (yes, not smooth, not complicated but still animated)and implemented girls in a year or 1 year +1-3 month.
Again A Sandbox VN like dateing Sim with barely 3 stats for girls that only change their way they reply to MC there isn't really any deeper mechanics or gameplay.
I get the feeling you are mistakeing Gameplay with Story... as all your examples are reffering to play time rather than gameplay.
For how long this game dev`s up, for a 4 or 4.5 years. Good, doing interpolation, we have to wait about 6-8-10 years, to get about 50% amount of content in a game like Renryuu: Ascension. And I don`t speak about sex content, just storyline.
And if we will try combine gameplay and sex part of the game, for how long it will take to reach Nymphomania Priestess ? Big open world, scenes, TOOOONS of CG, twists, lewdness, kinks hmm...
Your math is still wrong and you didn't even reffer to the War map or the City/Nation building... or is that simple grind to you?
 
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Don`t say where of what I should do and you will not hear where you should go.

So the actual development on it is significantly less than your other examples. Okay step by step:
1. Evangelion said - "I'd like you sto show me a game with focus on game play that has enough content to satisfy you after around a year of active development ". I gave, you don`t happy.
2. Once A Porn a Time. Chapter 2. A liitle bit more then one year of active dev. Any problem, objection?
3. Love & Sex: Second Base. Now updated about 1-2 times in a month. Each update gives about 15-30 min of gameplay. Multiply it time to one year scale and you will get about 15 min in a month x 12 = 180 min = 3 hours of active gameplay in a year.
4.Rogue-Like: evolution. 2 full animated (yes, not smooth, not complicated but still animated)and implemented girls in a year or 1 year +1-3 month.
5.Nymphomania Priestess. Each update in approx 3 month. Each update 30-60-90 min of gameplay. We take 30, so 30 x 12 = 360min = 6 hours.
6. Renryuu: Ascension. So much complicated game, with with dozens of characters.....and vast game lore, storyline, location etc. A least 2 days of strait gameplay to reach end of updates.
7. Dlimur. A long one, basically finished one. A 2-3 days of gameplay. Or if you skip all scenes 12-15 hours.

Now lets do the basic math. If we remove grind wall... no let`s start with a easy one. Easy one. How long it would take to reach end of the current version on a second run + grind, I will say 3-5 hours. Sound real and good to me. How long it would take without grind.. 1-1.5 hour. How much content it has... 1 whore, 1 bdsm whore, 2 dancers, 1 dark girl, one bandit girl and one knight and a princess. 8 girls in a total. I think I remembered them all. Ok. Maybe all on those 8 have a great storyline, it`s detailed, complicated, with twists.. nope a few CG. And among 8 girls, 3 of them still don`t have even a nude body in a game files.

For how long this game dev`s up, for a 4 or 4.5 years. Good, doing interpolation, we have to wait about 6-8-10 years, to get about 50% amount of content in a game like Renryuu: Ascension. And I don`t speak about sex content, just storyline.
And if we will try combine gameplay and sex part of the game, for how long it will take to reach Nymphomania Priestess ? Big open world, scenes, TOOOONS of CG, twists, lewdness, kinks hmm...

N3wb_4_l1f3 can you please say how much time the current game will need to reach Nymphomania Priestess, or a Dlimur.
As you said : "Dlimur - 7 years". So we must see about 15 hours of gameplay in the "The pleasuremancer" for a 4 years. Right?
Or Renryuu: "Ascension - 8 years". At least 24 hours of gameplay for a 4 years, right.

Or what, it`s another game, you don`t understand... don`t compare.
Not sure to understand the point of this ?
I am a lazy dev ? I'm a lot of thing but not that. Some other guy do better than me ? I'm sure of this.
I want to work on a game I would play and not just fap. It's not entirely a porn game, it's an adventure game with porn element.
It's not totally a VN it's a RPG/VN/Point & clic.
I don't have animation ? It's REALLY expensive to have animation with my style, and yes I would love have it, but I prefer use the budget (a little one if you refer to my patreon) to advance the game in a way I love it.

And the number in your sentences are wrong, grind is an element of the game, and with walktrough I'm sure you have at least 8hr of gameplay now.
 

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If the save file is old it's stored jeu object doesn't have serre_bordel_mana_max property we rely on there. Starting from new creates jeu with it, but loading old save seems missing an update code to check and add this property. Made a quick fix - just copy this file to game folder and it'll fix old saves on load against this bug.

Or wait for next updates from DarkMirrodin
it's me XD the dev :)
Anyway, thanks for the fix for the other user ^^
 
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Not sure to understand the point of this ?
I am a lazy dev ? I'm a lot of thing but not that. Some other guy do better than me ? I'm sure of this.
I want to work on a game I would play and not just fap. It's not entirely a porn game, it's an adventure game with porn element.
It's not totally a VN it's a RPG/VN/Point & clic.
I don't have animation ? It's REALLY expensive to have animation with my style, and yes I would love have it, but I prefer use the budget (a little one if you refer to my patreon) to advance the game in a way I love it.

And the number in your sentences are wrong, grind is an element of the game, and with walktrough I'm sure you have at least 8hr of gameplay now.
Man I have NO claims, complains to you, or your way with a game, story characters. It`s your game and how/why develop it, it`s ONLY up to you. I really like you game (as I said earlier). All that I do in the first post, is asking could you to consider the possibility to add more girls, coz game feels empty. Especially in a late part of the current version.
First guy here thought that I suggest add skeletons and undead rotten females to fuck. :FacePalm:
Then he suggested a good idea of adding nobles. But I said it will take a long time, coz they are mostly in a big cities. And road to those cities are a long one.
So adding an ability to capture, corrupt and fuck or add to our army some females solders of enemy is a good idea. Maybe not a solder, but a squad leader. It`s will not take a long time, will not take to much resources, they don`t need a story etc. Just slowly add this system in game. Which have literally every thing ready to do so (Story, MC, castle/tower, people around MC, MC declaration, MC story of the past, setting).

I only in argument with 2 gentlemens, who don`t get what this is a porn game. MC is pleasuremancer, he seek pleasure in sex. So, logically, we need more sex, more sex = more powerful MC. This is the core of the game logic and mechanics.
 
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I am having trouble with the autumn quest I can't read the first book she gives me with intelligence 7 plz help
 
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For the guys who play the game, can you review it with recent build ? It will help in term of visibity :)
Honest review.
I will not write a review (sorry) but, can suggest some marks.
1. Play any game in "Rance" series. It greatly represents yours game overall story and gameplay movements. Rance himself greatly represent our MC.
https://f95zone.to/threads/rance-quest-magnum-v1-002-alicesoft.75337/
https://f95zone.to/threads/rance-ix-the-helmanian-revolution-v1-00-alicesoft.149754/
2. Play a few "Trainers games". This will give an example and maybe some insights about how to "work" with a girls. Corrupt, make them perverts etc. Try Akabur`s games.
https://f95zone.to/threads/star-channel-34-ep-12-akabur.1391/
https://f95zone.to/threads/princess-trainer-gold-edition-v2-03-akabur.760/
https://f95zone.to/threads/witch-trainer-silver-mod-v1-46-1-silver-studio-games.1697/post-14090707
https://f95zone.to/threads/four-elements-trainer-v1-0-8c-mity.730/
3. In terms of choosing what to to as MC(in game), try https://f95zone.to/threads/love-sex-second-base-v24-5-1d-andrealphus.13488/
You can ignore girls, develop relationship, go on a date (I don`t think it a good idea to your game). Just show about what can be done with girls outside "just sex".

Spend a few week to play this games, You don`t need to finish them, just look for core game mechanics, concept, core gameplay, events, how they are build (especially try Rance). Then try some trainers game. This should help to understand how to build corruption system, how to work with a girls.

Just remember, all of this is just a suggestion. Have a nice day.
 

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I will not write a review (sorry) but, can suggest some marks.
1. Play any game in "Rance" series. It greatly represents yours game overall story and gameplay movements. Rance himself greatly represent our MC.
https://f95zone.to/threads/rance-quest-magnum-v1-002-alicesoft.75337/
https://f95zone.to/threads/rance-ix-the-helmanian-revolution-v1-00-alicesoft.149754/
2. Play a few "Trainers games". This will give an example and maybe some insights about how to "work" with a girls. Corrupt, make them perverts etc. Try Akabur`s games.
https://f95zone.to/threads/star-channel-34-ep-12-akabur.1391/
https://f95zone.to/threads/princess-trainer-gold-edition-v2-03-akabur.760/
https://f95zone.to/threads/witch-trainer-silver-mod-v1-46-1-silver-studio-games.1697/post-14090707
https://f95zone.to/threads/four-elements-trainer-v1-0-8c-mity.730/
3. In terms of choosing what to to as MC(in game), try https://f95zone.to/threads/love-sex-second-base-v24-5-1d-andrealphus.13488/
You can ignore girls, develop relationship, go on a date (I don`t think it a good idea to your game). Just show about what can be done with girls outside "just sex".

Spend a few week to play this games, You don`t need to finish them, just look for core game mechanics, concept, core gameplay, events, how they are build (especially try Rance). Then try some trainers game. This should help to understand how to build corruption system, how to work with a girls.

Just remember, all of this is just a suggestion. Have a nice day.
Rance wants to "Rape" any female he meets... most of the times he finds himself in situations when the girls actually want him to, though Rance main motivation does not represent the Pleasuremancer in the least.
Also I wouldn't count the Akabur games as prodigy trainer games... there are certainly better ones.
 

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Rance wants to "Rape" any female he meets... most of the times he finds himself in situations when the girls actually want him to, though Rance main motivation does not represent the Pleasuremancer in the least.
Also I wouldn't count the Akabur games as prodigy trainer games... there are certainly better ones.
"Rance wants to "Rape" any female he meets"

Rance love sex. Rape to him is a VERY fast and easy way to get it. If there was even more easer way to get it, he would just use it. So yes, he rape all what he see or try(females).

"...there are certainly better ones." Names?
Akabur have a few thigs, which made(make) his games like a gems.
1. Art quality.
2. Good humor.
3. Kinks.
4. Turn a proud girl(s) into bitch in heat with humor.
5. And the most important one - sanity level is 0.
 

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Is there a way to "un-join" attack on caravan? Because I think I soft-locked myself. Again.
No matter what I do I always die even with 120 veterans. And the last save I have is hours ago.

I see a lot of you talking about some city conquering but the furthest I´ve ever got is building the tower and almost getting the physical body.
Then I always get into unwinnable situation. No matter what I do I´m always weak as shit in battles. 2024-06-26_5-30-13.jpg
I started the game from the beginning three time already and I have yet to see any lewd content outside of brothel and bakery.
 
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