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Automata

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If Alisha does not finish this game, I am really hoping she will, but is there a way someone could pick up and finish an abandoned project like this?
Not unless Alisha is willing to give away her assets to someone else, it would be an extremely annoying process to try to recreate everything from hand. So much so it'd be more worthwhile to do your own unique project.

Also illegal and unethical, unless Alishia and Elizabeth both consented.
Do tell, what law is being broken?
 
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TheLecher

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Do tell, what law is being broken?
So you understand that Alishia's assets belong to her, but not that her characters and the existing body of work for the game belongs to her and Elizabeth?

Copyright law is what law would be broken. This game is the intellectual property of Alishia and Elizabeth. For someone else to try to take it over or recreate it without consent from both of the creators would therefore be, as I said before, illegal and unethical.
 

Automata

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So you understand that Alishia's assets belong to her, but not that her characters and the existing body of work for the game belongs to her and Elizabeth?

Copyright law is what law would be broken. This game is the intellectual property of Alishia and Elizabeth. For someone else to try to take it over or recreate it without consent from both of the creators would therefore be, as I said before, illegal and unethical.
I figured you'd say that. However, it's more complex than that to actually prove it. Specially when the assets you are referring to seem to be DAZ assets that can be licensed to anyone. Recreation or reverse-engineering and parody all has special conditions under the law.

The story and the actual images (not a reproduction) in this case has more right to protection than any "asset" she's shown. Highly unethical, legally grey and mostly likely do-able without any legal recourse if the person made a few tweaks to things like names and UI.

Something like Summertime Saga where the assets are wholly created by the team would be easier to defend if this ever went to any US court. Not to mention, the issues with this if the offender isn't in a country covered by the Berne Convention.
 

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I figured you'd say that. However, it's more complex than that to actually prove it. Specially when the assets you are referring to seem to be DAZ assets that can be licensed to anyone. Recreation or reverse-engineering and parody all has special conditions under the law.
Proving it is a matter for lawyers and courts. Whether or not it's legal or ethical doesn't depend on proving the case. If Person B steals Person A's work, that's both illegal and unethical, whether or not the matter is ever prosecuted, or even discovered.

The story and the actual images (not a reproduction) in this case has more right to protection than any "asset" she's shown. Highly unethical, legally grey and mostly likely do-able without any legal recourse if the person made a few tweaks to things like names and UI.
Once again, addressing the question of provability doesn't change the actual legality. And more importantly, at least for some people, it doesn't make it right (the question of ethics).

Something like Summertime Saga where the assets are wholly created by the team would be easier to defend if this ever went to any US court. Not to mention, the issues with this if the offender isn't in a country covered by the Berne Convention.
The Berne Convention isn't the only international convention covering copyrights. There are also the Universal Copyright Convention, the Buenos Ares Convention, the WIPO Copyright treaty, the TRIPS treaty, and a few others I can't remember. As I recall, there are currently only about half a dozen nations where they don't recognize international copyrights. I know that Iran and Iraq are both on that list, as well as a couple of African countries (Somalia comes to mind, but I'm not sure.). And while China is a member of multiple copyright treaties, they have a reputation for not respecting copyright law.

So, unless you're in one of the half-dozen or so countries which don't honor international copyrights, trying to continue this (or any) game without the creator's consent is illegal, whether anything is ever done about it or not. And even in those nations, it's still unethical.
 

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Flickering

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This game is great, and the art is stunning and amazing. Very looking forward to the future release cause it is very underdeveloped now. I am very excited about the story as the game developed characters quite well, and I think dropping the sandbox point and pick gameplay but focusing on "choice matter" gameplay and narrative is a good idea and will make the game better.
 

Big Zeta

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About the download links (Win/Linux), I wonder, why on anonfile it's 1.31GB when elsewhere it's 1.22?
 

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There really needs to be automated response that responses to these people that keep asking the is there a walk through over and over again and it gives them the response NO or it directs them to a post stating NO or it tells them to read every page as almost all of them have someone asking the same thing on every page. But a automated NO response would be the easiest.
 
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