No, they're pretty bloody accurate and in most school sports-science text books.
I mean, google it for crying out loud. Jesus.
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I mean, google it for crying out loud. Jesus.
It would be wise of you to do the same and actually try reading it.
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Your numbers are so drastically off that it's not even funny.
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You are right in general, there is no disputing it. The strongest women will never be as strong as the strongest man, genetics doesn't lie.
That said, anyone with training will always beat anyone without.
The MC here is a lazy untrained slob while both Aiko and Mel are trained and in far, far better physical shape.
The MC would be naturally stronger if both girls had never trained however they left him behind.
Quoting from what you linked,
I said men are 60% stronger in upper and 30% lower.
This says 48% and 24%.
Those are pretty close and within an expected deviation for this type of study.
No. Your numbers were drastically off by every measure of science.
60% vs 48%; 30% vs 24% those are pretty dang significant differences.
Thus hyperbolic.
This, unfortunately, is not true.
An expertly trained person can mitigate a lot of disadvantages but not all.
Devil isn't described as an International level MMA fighter or anything, she simply has been trained to fight locally.
She knows more than your average person certainly but not enough, imo, to offset such a huge physical disadvantage.
You aren't getting it.
I know he is described as a lazy slob.
But
look
at
him.
He isn't a slob, the dude is fucking ripped. His shoulders are broad with defined muscle as are his arms and he has a defined and pronounced six pack. His legs also are thick and sturdy. There is not an ounce of fat to be seen on him, he is not at all skinny or malnourished looking.
He cannot look like this unless he trains hard.
Again, I don't care what the story says - what the story shows me is something else.
If you want me to believe that the PC is a lazy slob, show me a lazy slob. Don't show me a very strong and fit looking guy.
They're not in "far far better shape".
Aiko is equivalent.
Mel is certainly in better comparative shape, meaning that she might be as strong as him (but probably not).
No, they're not for this type of study. +/-10% variance for these values would absolutely be expected when extrapolating out to gen pop.
I will accept that it looks like I remembered the upper body bit wrongly, that women are 50-60% as strong as men rather than, as I stated, men are 60% stronger.
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However, this doesn't contradict anything I've said! Men are just very slightly less overwhelmingly physically powerful than I stated. You have basically proved my point.
Is this twitter, jesus will all you toxic no life fucks get offline and stop being so angry and vitriolic over every little thing. Sure from time to time i enjoy rustling some of you lots jimmys because you all are so easy to troll, but this shit is getting so pedantic. Would think a forum full of porn would leave people a bit more chill...
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I'm with Ava on this one. One doesn't need to be an international level MMA fighter to outclass anyone without training. In most cases not even basic moves may be countered by brute strength alone. Take boxing for instance: if your guard isn't where it's supposed to be you're going down no matter what. Most martial arts teach moves that will block, hinder and then counter the opponent in one fluid motion. If you're not trained to break their flow these moves will connect. In most real world fights it's about successfully landing the first blow. Having any sort of training significantly raises the odds of doing just that.
I mean, what's you point here?
You show me a video of a woman that looks stronger than either of the two women in this game fighting against a man that looks weaker than the PC of this game. They also look to be of equal weight in your vid, whereas in the game the PC looks heavier than them.
I've already stated the obvious, that a woman can beat a man.
My problem is that I do not believe the women in this game could beat the PC of this game.
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Learn to math, man. If women are 52% as strong as men the men aren't 48% stronger, they're 92% stronger. If they're 66% as strong the men are 51% stronger, not 24%.
But while he's undoubtedly stronger than even Melissa, let alone Aiko, if he doesn't know how to fight he's not going to be dominating them physically unless they let him. Working out in a gym does not teach you that.
Yeah, I knew as I was typing it just felt wrong but it's been years since I've done maths and I couldn't work out how I was wrong in the few minutes that I took to reply.
So I undersold how much stronger men were than women, good to know. And thanks.
All he needs to do is take it to the ground and she's fucked. He has like 60lbs on her and way more strength. And this would be the natural thing for him to do.
He would be naturally averse to punching her (who wants to punch a little girl in the face? no-one), he'd want to grapple and bring her down and get her to submit/giveup because she doesn't have the power to dislodge him.
Yes, a Jiu Jitsu pro would beat a Wrestling pro (in this example she is a skilled JJ and he is an unskilled Wrestler) but, and here's the kicker, they must be of equal(ish) weight.
Aiko and the PC are not anywhere near equal weight.
Forgot to reply to this bit.
Again, iirc Mel has no fighting training so she'd be as clueless as the PC.
Ergo, she'd lose because she's less powerful - at least at a 60/40 rate in his favour.
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Against Aiko sure she has the training but, man, I just don't see it overcoming his advantages.
Height/reach, weight and power. Not to mention a mans typically higher spatial awareness, speed and reaction speed.
Multiplied by the fact that he is actually physically active and therefore aware of how his body moves and what it can do.
If she was described as a National champ or something then I guess, maybe? But she's not, she just goes to her local club.
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Why, she just won't let him (see above comment on compound moves in actual martial arts).
God, how sexist can one get, really? I'll leave
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here for others to educate themselves on and you I'll leave to your false masculinity. Take care!An excerpt from your link
So, thanks?
Edit: Oh balls, missed a bit.
She is the one attacking him.
If he is the attacker then fine, she can dodge out of his way as she reads his moves (though, it is hard to read someone that has no idea what they're doing) and applies her trained abilities to evade. Fine.
But she's attacking him. She is coming into his zone, not the other way around.
This means all he needs to do is grab and wrap and she's done.
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The science lesson is interesting, but the point here is that the author of the story has said the girls are ALL three way better trained and in shape than MC. If you have a quibble, it's with the Dev's choices when creating MC's model. Feel free to make that argument, but chances are he will either ignore you or blister you so good luck!
What? Even the curvy redhead? Pfft.
It is a problem, because these are Visual Novels. The pictures are more important than the text.
So, if the text and pictures do not match, we take what the picture shows as truth over the text.
If the PC looked like that skinny mentalist PC from The Professor or the soft & chunky middle-aged father from Mid-Life Crisis (except age appropriate) then I'd have no problem.
But, he looks like a tank so... my head logic will treat him like a tank.
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Pst pst *whispering* OMVN just like thicc girl and he got death by snu snu kink.
Joke aside. 3 main girls except ma milf is trained in combat (I read text in porn game
) and you guys are not wrong that MC is a fucking tank. Can he win against the girl? Yes. Can he beat them easily? No. It would be a fair fight to say at least and MC isn't gonna go all in because they're family.