:'(Hello,
I have been told not to ask for support again to your community.
Since I would like to make a living out of my work, it is a not so pleasant but necessary step for me.
I thought that you were against paywalls, not against support.
I apologize for the mix-up.
I’m leaving the discord channel to avoid being the target of unnecessary rude comments.
I know that some of you are supporting me. Thank you for that.
We can keep in touch on my post on F95, on LL or on discord (REDFACTION#8858)
I’m not holding grudge against anyone.
I’m leaving in peace
Farewell.
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Is what there is, it seems that love and beautiful thoughts was not what REDFACTION expected to receive
My kingdom for the sincere love of someone
(Beautiful ladys only, sorry gang) ( BTW ladys my phone number is sex sex sex freesex tonight... Yep my english is shit, i mean 666 3629 ;] )
I am watching the channel of discord and honestly I do not see that nobody has told him (in public) anything terrible
He is clearly creating hype in a way that lets intuit that his intention is to sell his lab, OK respectable, but he must understand that it is also respectable that people are put on guard against that and make comments that he may not like
And shit! this is internet, God gives it to you, God takes it from you, if REDFACTION ends up publishing something serious, you must get used to the idea that it has no way of preventing it from leaking somewhere and I think you have not seriously thought about that inexorable. reality
Well, in short, hope all goes well for REDFACTION
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Yeah but the issue is that we're focused on leaks, and asking often for support (which means, Patreon support) is counter-productive to the means of the group. You're most welcome if you can understand it, nobody is asking you to leave!Hello,
I have been told not to ask for support again to your community.
Since I would like to make a living out of my work, it is a not so pleasant but necessary step for me.
I thought that you were against paywalls, not against support.
I apologize for the mix-up.
I’m leaving the discord channel to avoid being the target of unnecessary rude comments.
I know that some of you are supporting me. Thank you for that.
We can keep in touch on my post on F95, on LL or on discord (REDFACTION#8858)
I’m not holding grudge against anyone.
I’m leaving in peace
Farewell.
That say, cheers, all the best and I hope you and your mod will have a great future.
OK, I'll be serious now (Also I get bored and what the hell I want to drop this, for those who want to read it)
Cold mind above all, he has not been neither practical nor logical, he should have thought more
The mod will be shared sooner or later?
Yes, do what he does that will happen if it does not happen here will be in another of the many sites on the internet
Will any of the users of this site sponsor it?
Surely some will do, although the general line here is to tear down walls of payment, there is always someone who wants more and put her money on the table at her own risk
This reaction will give arguments to those who doubt if the mod goes somewhere or simply pretend to collect benefits?
Do not hesitate
Right now nobody ensures that when he sees his mod filtered and think that they are stealing ... directly not close the business apart from losing the opportunity to pick up some "fans" who would end up paying in patreon even if only 4, cent to cent a dollar is made
Publicity is never superfluous and piracy or leaks are publicity one should not fight against that just should know take advantage of that
A quick example, the first playstation everybody copy the games, but as it sold the console for that reason
Cold mind above all, he has not been neither practical nor logical, he should have thought more
The mod will be shared sooner or later?
Yes, do what he does that will happen if it does not happen here will be in another of the many sites on the internet
Will any of the users of this site sponsor it?
Surely some will do, although the general line here is to tear down walls of payment, there is always someone who wants more and put her money on the table at her own risk
This reaction will give arguments to those who doubt if the mod goes somewhere or simply pretend to collect benefits?
Do not hesitate
Right now nobody ensures that when he sees his mod filtered and think that they are stealing ... directly not close the business apart from losing the opportunity to pick up some "fans" who would end up paying in patreon even if only 4, cent to cent a dollar is made
Publicity is never superfluous and piracy or leaks are publicity one should not fight against that just should know take advantage of that
A quick example, the first playstation everybody copy the games, but as it sold the console for that reason
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You're rising so many red flags in such a small time, i'm impressed, but not surprised.Hello,
I have been told not to ask for support again to your community.
Since I would like to make a living out of my work, it is a not so pleasant but necessary step for me.
I thought that you were against paywalls, not against support.
I apologize for the mix-up.
I’m leaving the discord channel to avoid being the target of unnecessary rude comments.
I know that some of you are supporting me. Thank you for that.
We can keep in touch on my post on F95, on LL or on discord (REDFACTION#8858)
I’m not holding grudge against anyone.
I’m leaving in peace
Farewell.
Anyway, i think you know too well that you can use loverslab and F95 to ask for support, and we know you won't stop using them for it, i said you can't use the discord as your marketing platform, and that's it, you we're abusing our hospitality and i was not gentle because i like to make myself clear, the discord isn't for that, at least the other creators there understand that.
I checked the chat we're you said there was an insult, i think you took a slang used in another conversation as directed to you, don't know why you paid mind to that since it was a answer to another person, i think you should pay more attention to the lines and lines and lines.. and lines... of praise and nice words people there gave to you, instead of making a tantrum about something you misunderstood.
I'm disappointed with your reaction, but not surprised.
That's all about this matter.
He is, but advertising isn't allowed in the discord server. He was asking for support (donations) which is not at all what the server is to be used for.
So instead of trying to understand that, he decided to leave the server and will instead, post updates here and on LL.
You have made it very clear K.Leoric , then part of the problem has been to confuse the discord channel with an extension of this site when they are two completely independent machines, I hope that this phenomenon does not repeat much
Leaving the RFL topic aside
Without this type of sites where the material is shared, a large amount of patreon would not reach the amount of donations that would finally they obtain, because many of its sponsors would not even know their work.
The sponsors started downloading for free the products that they later sponsor, I think it's something to be considered, like as many creators also download leaks from others in places like this.
This is how this ecosystem works. I regret we can not understand what the real basis of the Internet is or that we forget it when it suits us to do so.
Leaving the RFL topic aside
Without this type of sites where the material is shared, a large amount of patreon would not reach the amount of donations that would finally they obtain, because many of its sponsors would not even know their work.
The sponsors started downloading for free the products that they later sponsor, I think it's something to be considered, like as many creators also download leaks from others in places like this.
This is how this ecosystem works. I regret we can not understand what the real basis of the Internet is or that we forget it when it suits us to do so.
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Shit you should've seen his reaction when I said " A 3d render in blender doesn't mean shit, show gameplay or knock it off" lol or something along those lines. Lol like anyone can make something look good in a render. He showed the gameplay and gained my support but still... he not understanding how suspicious he seems.
He should have waited to have something more advanced the prototype before announcing it.
There is a lot of suspicion towards patreon
There are many things that end in nothing at the end, I guess that plays against REDFACTION what he promises sounds too good and that has also played against him
Wow! Talk about the wrong end of the wrong stick,
He talked about guys being against "support" when he originally came here believing that the community was purely against "paywalls" and nothing else,
I'm not surprised that he ducked out after seeing how creators are talked about here,
Once he hits +10,000$ he'll be the new emissary of hell etc
Leoric, Fin and the other original doners started this as a way of cutting the cost of supporting multiple creators together and sharing the love,
Since they have made this an open source, its fast becoming an ugly mob of hateful gamers that don't really want to see anyone succeed regardless of the fact that they are still getting free mods,
Its like yeah... Make sure you keep making those mods but you gotta be certain that it's not improving your life in anyway or you're raping EA and Loverslab n all that crud,
I get that Leoric will advise Redfaction in respect of promotional stuff but I think that the word support is taken the wrong way here,
Feedback and active discussion is also another form of support which I don't believe was being restricted here lol
He talked about guys being against "support" when he originally came here believing that the community was purely against "paywalls" and nothing else,
I'm not surprised that he ducked out after seeing how creators are talked about here,
Once he hits +10,000$ he'll be the new emissary of hell etc
Leoric, Fin and the other original doners started this as a way of cutting the cost of supporting multiple creators together and sharing the love,
Since they have made this an open source, its fast becoming an ugly mob of hateful gamers that don't really want to see anyone succeed regardless of the fact that they are still getting free mods,
Its like yeah... Make sure you keep making those mods but you gotta be certain that it's not improving your life in anyway or you're raping EA and Loverslab n all that crud,
I get that Leoric will advise Redfaction in respect of promotional stuff but I think that the word support is taken the wrong way here,
Feedback and active discussion is also another form of support which I don't believe was being restricted here lol
I do not believe many here object to someone making money off of content they create. Seems fair to me: you made something I want, I pay fair market value to purchase it and agree to any stipulations you have on what I can do with it. What people do object to is underhanded or illegal deals and manipulation tactics. Individuals seeking to profit in the marketplace of digital content creation for The Sims 4 all agree to abide by certain regulations. Those who fail to abide by those regulations that Electronic Arts imposes are not playing fairly with themselves, EA, or the gaming community in general and should be taken to task about those violations. Attempting to profit off of someone else's work(s) is just plain wrong if one has not purchased ownership rights to said work(s). Leveling baseless legal threats against another in a blatant attempt at manipulation is wrong. Both of those actions merit harsh criticism.
Another criticism I see leveled is failing to meet acceptable quality standards. Users expect to encounter a few bugs here and there when using any new program. Updates exist for a reason and nobody's code is perfect. When someone earns $10,000 per month creating content (one program in particular) that person's content should be held to a higher standard. One who earns $10,000 per month making a project should treat it like a full-time job, with all of the responsibilities that entails. In my job, if I were to release a project once per month and then spend the next day or two releasing fixes for the mistakes I made in the original project; I'd be out of work in short order. If I were to earn $120,000 per year doing a job, I had best be damned good at said job if I wanted to keep it. Continuously making silly mistakes and failing to mitigate said mistakes is a recipe for failure in business.
Capitalism is not a cute little fluffy bunny who will cuddle you and tell you that it's all going to work out. Capitalism is harsh and unforgiving. There is always someone else who is looking to build a better mousetrap and to remain profitable one should take it seriously and invest in their business' growth. Customer's aren't always right, or wise, or even competent but they hold the keys to the kingdom. A business that fails to meet expectations can expect criticism, sometimes nasty criticism if they repeatedly fail to meet expectations. If a business owner cannot handle criticism, they should not be a business owner.
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I rest my case lol,
I don't think anyone expected to make big bucks in modding, just that some get lucky and who would turn it down?
Probably not any of the people who claim to struggle to afford a $5 pay wall now and again,
I know the points you're making as all this has come up before,
But if you take the chatter of the last few days,
Turbo trash talk, the HMB lynching etc,
It's pretty off putting if you're looking to make modding a full time job which is what Redfaction is looking to do.
Fair enough that HMB was asking for it but I don't think Turbo deserves all the shit he gets,
Sure it might look like he's not performing from the outside but when you consider that he originally started with a sex player idea, that is probably a warped version of the original concept he had now after trying to work on the multiple requests,
Autonomy came well too early etc so it's understood that it is a painful backtrack now and again but it's pretty clear that the main issue against Turbo in most cases is his disinterest in rape and animal porn,
No matter what Redfaction's intentions are,
If he makes modding his full time job and makes a lot of money, he'll be demonised for it whether he pay walls it or not,
Especially if he decides to not add animal sex too
I don't think anyone expected to make big bucks in modding, just that some get lucky and who would turn it down?
Probably not any of the people who claim to struggle to afford a $5 pay wall now and again,
I know the points you're making as all this has come up before,
But if you take the chatter of the last few days,
Turbo trash talk, the HMB lynching etc,
It's pretty off putting if you're looking to make modding a full time job which is what Redfaction is looking to do.
Fair enough that HMB was asking for it but I don't think Turbo deserves all the shit he gets,
Sure it might look like he's not performing from the outside but when you consider that he originally started with a sex player idea, that is probably a warped version of the original concept he had now after trying to work on the multiple requests,
Autonomy came well too early etc so it's understood that it is a painful backtrack now and again but it's pretty clear that the main issue against Turbo in most cases is his disinterest in rape and animal porn,
No matter what Redfaction's intentions are,
If he makes modding his full time job and makes a lot of money, he'll be demonised for it whether he pay walls it or not,
Especially if he decides to not add animal sex too
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Redfaction had a ton of support. Even the admins in Discord are looking forward to this mod.
He started off by saying it won't be behind a paywall and we were okay with that. And then he started saying "please support me rebels" And that can be taken both ways. Does he mean support with money or just "Yeah you can do it" support.
And now it's changed to what WW had in the beginning. Where people who paid were testers and got it early. So yeah something was said. In no way was King mean, he honestly asked him nicely not to advertise anymore and Red acted like we took his toys away. (The beauty of the internet now is that everything can be screenshotted)
I am not against anyone making money, it's a hard world out there and if you find something that you enjoy that also pays your bills then go ahead. Go get your paycheck boo boo.
Hell, Turbo and Deaderpool make more than me and I went to school.
But anyways, this isn't what this thread is for and just know that if you put any mod behind a paywall it will be leaked. And I made it very clear that I was going to leak Red's mod if it did.
Back to your regularly scheduled Sims 4 Mod leaks <3
He started off by saying it won't be behind a paywall and we were okay with that. And then he started saying "please support me rebels" And that can be taken both ways. Does he mean support with money or just "Yeah you can do it" support.
And now it's changed to what WW had in the beginning. Where people who paid were testers and got it early. So yeah something was said. In no way was King mean, he honestly asked him nicely not to advertise anymore and Red acted like we took his toys away. (The beauty of the internet now is that everything can be screenshotted)
I am not against anyone making money, it's a hard world out there and if you find something that you enjoy that also pays your bills then go ahead. Go get your paycheck boo boo.
Hell, Turbo and Deaderpool make more than me and I went to school.
But anyways, this isn't what this thread is for and just know that if you put any mod behind a paywall it will be leaked. And I made it very clear that I was going to leak Red's mod if it did.
Back to your regularly scheduled Sims 4 Mod leaks <3
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I think Turbo deserves a lot of it. I love Wicked Whims and I like the direction he has taken it over it's lifetime. It really has evolved into an interesting adult mod. When I read the changelog for each new version I usually smile at what he's added or changed, but then I remember that it's going to have some bugs and errors for a few hours, if not days. It's not my place to tell him how to run his business, but he needs to seriously consider some quality control people, or just one. I know this isn't a sustainable business model in the long-term, but it is his business currently. If he already has QC people, it's time to shit-can them and hire someone else. If he just had a person, or 2, look over his code before release and point out discrepancies he'd be better off for it. I understand he's crowd-sourcing testers through the Patreon program, but that is quite possibly the worst way to handle it. Patrons are customers, not lab-rats.
I support Redfaction and his attempts. I hope he makes a billion/month; I really do. I also hope that he takes his mod seriously when it gets that big. I hope for big things and I'll be looking to support him when/if his project works as well, or better than, WW.
The prosecution rests, your honor.
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