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yakargi

Developer Of The Singer
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Lost in that Rant,was how the dev lied on his initial game description is what got shit started on here. Not the fact that there's unavoidable NTR,the fact that they lied. But yea dev,it was the NTR,not the lying.
Why are you calling me a liar? I have never lied. When I first added the game to this forum, I did not know how to use the forum. I learned later and added the necessary tags.
 

JamieSadistic

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Dec 19, 2018
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Lost in that Rant,was how the dev lied on his initial game description is what got shit started on here. Not the fact that there's unavoidable NTR,the fact that they lied. But yea dev,it was the NTR,not the lying.
What you and a lot of other people fail to understand is that when you're developing a game, sometimes you don't have the entire story planned out in your head. As the game progresses, things change and while you may not initially intend to have a specific tag added, situations in the game require that tag to be added. Also, it's kind of looked down upon here to add tags to a game for future content planned. So even if the dev tagged it as NTR early on, if there was only the beginnings of the story where it hasn't built up to the meat and potatoes yet, people will still bitch because that content isn't in the game yet.
For devs, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. There's always going to be someone that's unhappy about what you add or don't add to the story you're trying to tell.
 
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phupdup2

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Front page should be edited to show that a game restart is mandatory for this latest version. I've hit a mess of undefined flags like cheatmain, Calltodd and Calllily. They also can't be defaulted even if the dev had bothered since there's at least one pair (Calltodd/Calllily) that are mutually exclusive and probably dependent on cheatmain as well.

Should also note that the dev uses a questionable practice of defining this stuff on the fly at dialogs and not organizing these as proper globals in a section at the front of the script. So I won't be surprised if I run into more stack dumps even after restarting the game because of branching choices not allowing them to be defined and then having them get checked elsewhere.
 

yakargi

Developer Of The Singer
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Jan 30, 2019
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Front page should be edited to show that a game restart is mandatory for this latest version. I've hit a mess of undefined flags like cheatmain, Calltodd and Calllily. They also can't be defaulted even if the dev had bothered since there's at least one pair (Calltodd/Calllily) that are mutually exclusive and probably dependent on cheatmain as well.

Should also note that the dev uses a questionable practice of defining this stuff on the fly at dialogs and not organizing these as proper globals in a section at the front of the script. So I won't be surprised if I run into more stack dumps even after restarting the game because of branching choices not allowing them to be defined and then having them get checked elsewhere.
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yakargi

Developer Of The Singer
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Jan 30, 2019
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First, that was hidden behind a spoiler in the dev notes. Also you only "recommend" a restart when it really is necessary due to program logic.

Most games that require a restart like this have a prominent warning line just above the downloads section stating that a restart is necessary for saves earlier than version x.
my bad sorry. I'll be more careful next time.
 
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my bad sorry. I'll be more careful next time.
Hey man, I feel like you’re stressing a lot about the comments so let me just say that I really like your game. I can’t wait to see Carl fuck Ria as well as all the other paths. Keep up the good work.

About explaining that people might need a new save, you should add the warning right below the NTR warning. The place where they write in yellow (orange?). That’s where i've seen other developers place the disclaimer about using new saves.
 

Canto Forte

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Jul 10, 2017
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Start a new save! Be a strong boyfriend!

There is a place to be bold ... but should you, you better reflect that in your characters.

Being in a relationship is a safe heaven, even for those who could be sex addicts.

Most women of value, for themselves mainly, are embolded by having someone,
so they are not feeling like they have ta be
showing the meat to the wolves, like many women do today.

You choose a career in showbiz where if you let yourself be the whore of someone,
there is no upside, there is no getting out of it.
 

Canto Forte

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She was freezing the whole time.
She was trying to get to sleep through the constant shivering and teeth clanking.
Am i the only one disappointed that we didn't get a flashback to what happened to Ria after she went to bed and wakes up covered the next morning?
She does not want to think about it!
Why would you put her through that ordeal?
How could you!
 

SomeOldFart

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LOVE the cheating and NTR in this game! :love: If there was an option where the boyfriend could be completely faithful (no Lizzy visits and no BJ's from Lily) but Ria had the option to get more corrupt and cheat on him behind his back, it would make it even that much better. :love::love:
 

JonesTheFake

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Jul 7, 2017
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The game for me hovers between okay and slightly above average when it has the potential to become excellent. Like the other comments, I agree that it should not be unavoidable for the MC to cheat. I believe the "loving route" is the loving route because the MC actually loves the fmc. Hence, it makes no sense for the MC to cheat on her so willingly and easily or make it unavoidable. Which also brings me to another question, why do you have to choose whether to go on the corruption route or loving route at the start of the game? I've played through both routes and there's no difference between which option you choose in the beginning. Furthermore, if you choose one of the routes at the start, shouldn't the choices be different or at least restrict some options? Otherwise, what's the point of having to choose which route you want to play. It really serves no function since your choices in the game are the ones that determine which route you are heading for, not the choice at the beginning.

Another small issue I have is that it seems a bit too easy for the FMC to start lusting after Carl when your on the "loving route." If it was the corruption route, I'd understand cuz the boyfriend is being a bitch but in the loving route, the FMC is supposed to "love" the MC. Her suddenly lusting after Carl's dick and having dreams where she's getting fucked by Carl when she's supposedly in love doesn't make much sense and ruins the immersion. She even says she had a good dream after she wakes up. This is a porn game so I understand it can't be 100 percent realistic but it doesn't have to be illogical as well since it ruins your immersion when playing the game. Despite the already farfetched dream that appeared too early in the ntr process, they could at least change her thoughts and make it so she feels guilty for having the dream but also not entirely opposed to it. From what the dev has done so far, I can't really tell the difference between the love route and corruption route.

The love route should be where the FMC loves the MC but slowly becomes corrupted because of Lily, Carl's charisma and dominance, and the appeal of becoming successful by listening to Carl (on the condition that the ntr is indeed unavoidable). Of course, the Dev can use blackmail and coercion to speed up the love route but if not, it should be a slower but more satisfying burn than corruption. The moral degradation would be even more magnified because the MC is a loving boyfriend who full heartedly supports his girlfriend. There would be greater inner conflict and turmoil as she cheats on her boyfriend while knowing what she's doing is wrong. She'd feel guilty but can't help herself from indulging in pleasure and her own desires. This would really hit the ntr aspect and set this game apart from the other mindless ntr games out there.

The corruption route compliments the loving route because it's fast-paced and the MC himself has the potential to become either a betacuck or a dominant boyfriend (based on your preferences). It would be interesting to see that if you choose to make the mc dominant, you get the option later in the story to dominate his cheating girlfriend and enjoy the fruits of her corruption while also enjoying the other girls he dominated. Making a fully corrupted Ria solely yours would be super hot and amazing and seeing a fully submissive Lily would be like 1000 cherries on top. It would truly be a breath of fresh air if the mc takes the girl back since there's so many ntr games where if you choose to make the MC slightly more dominant and actually get pussy, you always default into the swinger/open relationship route. That or the MC becomes a cuckold who enjoys seeing his partner get fucked when you make him submissive.

All in all, I think the game has potential to become more than what it currently is (a standard, run-of-the-mill ntr game). This is especially so when you can make the MC dominant in a game where ntr is unavoidable. The renders are pretty good and the character models are hot and sexy enough. It would make the game much better if the dev could differentiate between the two routes and add a bit more realism and thought into the loving route. I personally believe the loving route is an opportunity for the dev to add character and personality to the fmc because currently, she feels no different from any other fmc in a ntr game. Especially so when she acts mostly the same in both the loving and corruption route.

Of course, these are all my personal thoughts and opinions based on the current version of the game. I would love to see what the Dev thinks and what plans he has for future content.
 
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stahalle

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Hi dev. You still there? Any new news about update?

Hello everyone,
360 images and 4 animation is ready. I'm trying to finish it by the end of the month. I think I'll pass 600 images. Without animations. "Lovestory" took a lot of my time. But it was necessary. I hope you like.
Have a nice day everyone...
 
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