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mordred93

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I can see its pointless to argue with you. If you really want to complain go to some other games missing the tag where the girls are drugged with date rape drugs yet they do not have the tag. Here both sisters has been teasing him for years and it finally happened and he just did what she wanted.
serveredrealms and jufot You are both right and are arguing the opposite end of the same discussion.

Yes - a rape occurred. A rape occurs when consent is not given at the time of the sexual act. That does not make it a legal crime. The crime (legal) of a rape occurs when the victim wishes to press charges after the event occurs. In this case, the victim of rape (sister), does not want to press charges, and gave "post" incident consent. If she wanted to, yes, she could have pressed charges and hauled his ass off to jail. So in this instance, the MC played Russian Roulette and guessed the sister's feeling/motives/willingness, and came out without any negative consequences.

So yes - rape occurred, and the victim gave consent after the event, and MC doesn't go to jail. He could have? Sure. If the sister didn't want to give consent after the fact, yes. That is the sticky middle ground of all legal rape cases but it is pretty cut and dried in most Western legal systems.
Does this mean the tag needs to be applied - yes. It has been reported and will be added. In the context of this game, is the MC in hot water and going to jail - No.
 

jufot

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The crime (legal) of a rape occurs when the victim wishes to press charges after the event occurs. In this case, the victim of rape (sister), does not want to press charges, and gave "post" incident consent.
In your country, maybe. For example, here in the UK "pressing charges" doesn't exist. What you want or don't want as the victim doesn't matter at all, the CPS (prosecution service) decides if someone is to be charged. Likewise, "post incident consent" is also not a thing.

Does this mean the tag needs to be applied - yes. It has been reported and will be added. In the context of this game, is the MC in hot water and going to jail - No.
Of course, I do agree with you here :)


Oh btw, I never asked for a scene change. If a dev wants to have a rape scene, all the more power to them. I just wanted to see a tag for it.
 
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mordred93

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In your country, maybe. For example, here in the UK "pressing charges" doesn't exist. What you want or don't want as the victim doesn't matter at all, the CPS (prosecution service) decides if someone is to be charged. Likewise, "post incident consent" is also not a thing.
There are a few things that I may not have explained as part of the "post incident consent". There is no such thing in US law. What I meant was that the victim didn't feel that a crime was committed, and never reported the crime. If there is no report, how would the CPS or police/Attorney General know that a crime was committed? Also, would the CPS/AG bring a case where the victim refuses to testify against the accused? That would be a hard case to win.

That was what I meant by "post incident consent". Sorry - I wasn't clear.

Of course, I do agree with you here :)

Oh btw, I never asked for a scene change. If a dev wants to have a rape scene, all the more power to them. I just wanted to see a tag for it.
Cool .. I still haven't played it yet - so no clue if I am cool or not ;)
 
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SeveredRealms

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Oh btw, I never asked for a scene change. If a dev wants to have a rape scene, all the more power to them. I just wanted to see a tag for it.
The rewrite was done because he did not mean for it to be portrayed that way. He also worried someone would jump to the conclusion and scream rape as you did and was already thinking of changing it. There was a lot more going on between the mc and the sisters then what is written in the story. If you want the full story he would be writing for years and the game would not move forward very fast. The entire night lead up to that point in the game all her teasing lead to it.
 

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The rewrite was done because he did not mean for it to be portrayed that way. He also worried someone would jump to the conclusion and scream rape as you did and was already thinking of changing it. There was a lot more going on between the mc and the sisters then what is written in the story. If you want the full story he would be writing for years and the game would not move forward very fast. The entire night lead up to that point in the game all her teasing lead to it.
All of that sounds fine and I'm not criticizing the story but let's be real, in the words of Buffy:

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ciderapple

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In the final scene with deb in the bed, pulling out was a mistake imo. If worried about a pregnancy, can always get a pill.
 

jufot

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In the final scene with deb in the bed, pulling out was a mistake imo. If worried about a pregnancy, can always get a pill.
In a porn game, sure. In real life, not so much :) Emergency contraception tends to be extremely unpleasant. Vomiting, pain, cramps, extra bloody periods are all common side effects. Not to mention it's much less effective for women over 75kg/165lbs, which is basically most non-teenagers nowadays :)
 

ciderapple

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In a porn game, sure. In real life, not so much :) Emergency contraception tends to be extremely unpleasant. Vomiting, pain, cramps, extra bloody periods are all common side effects. Not to mention it's much less effective for women over 75kg/165lbs, which is basically most non-teenagers nowadays :)
Should be very effective for Deb then. And this is a game. So we are in luck!

Also, fitness is coming back into style, i think people are finally realizing that becoming an overweight porker is not a good idea, despite all the people trying to normalize obesity, and in spite of all the obesity apologists out there, there are a lot of people who realize that becoming a tub of lard is just generally a bad way to go.

It's pretty obvious when you look at old people in the world. They are either fat or they are skinny. And the fat ones by far have generally worse lives. Fat people have joint problems, they can't move around properly, it affects their enjoyment of life in general, and has terrible negative effects on long-term health prospects. It also puts undue stress on their internal organs which leads to earlier death and more severe medical issues over time.

IMO Countries like Japan have the right idea. Look at their general lifespan, and then look at their cultural percentage of obesity - there is a correlation. Yes diet has a lot to do with it, but there is also a great cultural pressure to stay in shape in Japan. Fat people are shamed and greatly encouraged to get fit by friends, loved ones, and even complete strangers. And this social pressure has a general positive effect on the overall health in their society.

(And I decided many many years ago that when the topic comes up, I will not apologize for fat people. They know what they are doing is a problem, I know what they are doing is a problem, and i'm not going to ignore the issue when it comes up and justify their bad behavior by staying silent. If you don't speak up against problems when they present themselves, then through your silence, you are approving of that activity. And now that healthcare is nationalized, YOU are paying for Their health issues that they brought on themselves through their bad eating habits! Is that fair? I would say not.)
 
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jufot

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Should be very effective for Deb then. And this is a game. So we are in luck!
Haha, indeed :)


[...] in spite of all the obesity apologists out there, there are a lot of people who realize that becoming a tub of lard is just generally a bad way to go.

[...] They know what they are doing is a problem, I know what they are doing is a problem, and i'm not going to ignore the issue when it comes up and justify their bad behavior by staying silent.
Even as a fat dude (by European standards, in the US I would be quite average) I fully agree with you. It's why I'm working on it :)
 

ciderapple

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Haha, indeed :)



Even as a fat dude (by European standards, in the US I would be quite average) I fully agree with you. It's why I'm working on it :)
Keep up the good work! I have some small advice that helped me. Make a promise to yourself, never eat to make yourself feel happy or to try to relieve depression. I.e. try not to tie food to a mental state. That will help a lot with cravings.
 
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jufot

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Keep up the good work! I have some small advice that helped me. Make a promise to yourself, never eat to make yourself feel happy or to try to relieve depression. I.e. try not to tie food to a mental state. That will help a lot with cravings.
Heh, that's good advice and I've been following it for a while now :)
 
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tripod70

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It is uploaded and reported. That was three hours ago. Still waiting for it to show up.
 

ciderapple

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There will be an update coming out probably tomorrow 8-12-21. I hope that you like it.
We will see!
One thing though... be careful about catering to people who are not paying for the privilege. If anything, Cater to your paying customers. And mainly make the game you want to make, it's your vision, and though that can be altered, if the creative juices run dry because your heart is not in it, then that will show with a reduction in creative quality, and will likely end up with a less creatively interesting (and therefore less attractive) product.

I personally was fine without having to give 'consent' and enjoyed the scene more because it was not given.....- but then again, I am one of those non-paying customers. so my opinion should carry very little weight.
 
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tripod70

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We will see!
One thing though... be careful about catering to people who are not paying for the privilege. If anything, Cater to your paying customers. And mainly make the game you want to make, it's your vision, and though that can be altered, if the creative juices run dry because your heart is not in it, then that will show with a reduction in creative quality, and will likely end up with a less creatively interesting (and therefore less attractive) product.

I personally was fine without having to give 'consent' and enjoyed the scene more because it was not given.....- but then again, I am one of those non-paying customers. so my opinion should carry very little weight.
Thanks Appreciate that. However I don't have a Patraron or Subscribe star. I have thought about it a time or two :) Doing this story is just something to keep my old feble mind active. Because this story is based on actual people that I know, and events that I was present at and actually saw. It is hard to deviate too much, but do have a possible plan to deviant just a little on to a possible Harem Path where every body is Ok with the fooling around with each other. The renders for the scenes would be the slow down there I think.
 
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