HTML Completed The Time of Cherries [Build 17] [obsessionau]

[rb813]

not a coder or anything but wouldnt a simple flag to check if a model has hardcore content or not work?

Sure, that could probably work, it's really just a matter of preference (between seeing individual unrelated images or a sequence of images that kinda tell a story).

 

[Plonk]

Thanks for the suggestion, I think those different views could be useful for some other things. But it's not gonna help with the problem of who to select for contracts at the moment, because most of the girls who have done a higher number of contracts in my current batch of models are still stuck (they're just waiting to unlock the nude set instead of topless or whatever). I just did a bunch of concubining and auditioning, so almost no one has more than 3 contracts right now.

Contracts is definitely one of the bottlenecks you'll face all game. If money isn't an issue you could work full time which means weeks only last 2 days (or part-time for 3 days), hence contracts refresh more quickly. I do this myself if I am literally just waiting for contracts. Dev has mentioned the possiblilty of having a second contract available per week if you're self employed in the next update, so fingers crossed that'll make it in.

I guess that display mode would at least let me see at a glance which girls have finished all the contracts they'll ever need (I think the number to unlock nude is 6?).

You need 5 contracts for nude as well as a certain relationship or confidence, can't remember which sorry.

Let me know if this idea really appeals to you and then we can try to tag-team it. Otherwise, I think it'll probably just be one of those ideas I have that remains strictly theoretical (of course, the dev is free to steal it).

I probs won't me much help, my coding knowledge is very limited. I'm more of the guy that likes to work on the images.

 

[Plonk]

Updated my modpack to v1.2. Changelog here.

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. Big update if you're getting transition lag from events previously.

 

[obsessionau]

It is not hard to add another set. I did it just now and I think I needed to modify 5 different sections of code to add in a "adult" category. But that is the easy part. You would then need to add and modify another thousand pictures before the game works nicely and when I checked most of my models are not pornstars and many don't even do solo.

What I was wanting to do is have "custom" categories so that you could call the sets whatever you wanted like "cosplay" or "swimsuit" but that would require significant modification.

The sections to change off the top of my head I can think of are:
1. Adding button (you did this)
2. Adding array to $Shoot - to specify the "050" filename, income and income modifier for the category
3. The different categories have different chances of getting different types of cards so you would need to add the additional info for $ShootType
4. Adding the new category to the girls $Bio which is dynamically created at the start of the game so you have to add it to _TempModelInfo. This is so the game can record what cards you have gotten already for each girl in each category.
5. Adding the display of the cards in the portfolio screen (just copy and paste one of the other lines)
I thought I counted 7 sections to modify, hmm I hope I haven't messed up my code changing it back. Most of the above changes are just 1 line of code.

6. Adding this category into the achievement check (not necessary)

The errors you are getting on the previous screen are because you have not done number 2.

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[obsessionau]

If you are not getting the girl contracts, then she is not going to want to take off her kit for ya.

You need 5 contracts for nude as well as a certain relationship or confidence, can't remember which sorry.

rb813 when you added the button for the new category you may have noticed next to this code the confidence >= 28 and contracts >= 5 to show the nude shoots button.

Easy change.

 

[rb813]

The errors you are getting on the previous screen are because you have not done number 2.

Actually, I had gotten as far as step 2, and it still wasn't working, so I wasted a lot of time trying to find some place in the code where it hardwired what size that set could be. Now that you told me that wasn't the issue, I focused my debugging in a different direction, and what I figured out was that you have to start a brand new game for changes to $Shoot to take effect (it makes sense in retrospect that those functions are run right away, but it never occurred to me before). I also needed to do step 4 to prevent the "CardType" errors on the same screen, but other than that, it's all working fine now. I doubt I would've figured it out any time soon without your list of steps telling me what to look for.

What I was wanting to do is have "custom" categories so that you could call the sets whatever you wanted like "cosplay" or "swimsuit" but that would require significant modification.

Have you thought about actually just calling it "custom" (or "special" or some other generic term) so that it can be different for each girl? Cosplay for some, swimsuit for others, masturbation, hardcore, whatever makes sense for the particular model. If the name is generic, it wouldn't have to be any one thing, but it would still allow for an additional set (that modders can reconfigure according to their tastes or fetishes).

Please be aware this is what my TWEE code looks like, the html won't be as pretty.

I've used Twine before, but not Twee. Is there are a particular text editor or program I should download?

 

[Plonk]

Would be cool if it was an optional set for a few reasons. As obsessionau pointed out majority of models in the base game (and the models in my mod for that matter) don't even do solo, let alone hardcore stuff. Maybe have it toggleable in the .lsm for each model, something like this perhaps?

special : "true",

Again not a coder so don't really know how hard it'll be to implement something like that.

The other issue you'd have is balancing the game around having that extra set too. The economy feels pretty spot on in build 17 and you can upgrade/hire at a decent pace.

 

[rb813]

The other issue you'd have is balancing the game around having that extra set too.

That's why I was suggesting it could just be like a bonus thing, with all the playtuning still built around four sets, but having the option for a fifth if players/modders care to populate the images. Doing it like that would presumably require fewer changes to the code, because it's not like you need to add a line to say "keep this part the same" (as long as you didn't already add a line which would make that part be different).

 

[LottaLoyaltyForAHiredGun]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but part of the appeal (to me) of this game compared with many others on here is the softcore aspect. Few games on F95 just offer beautiful ladies and nothing more. If more hardcore events are added, I would appreciate if there was a toggle to disable them, along with the already existing ones.

 

[obsessionau]

That's why I was suggesting it could just be like a bonus thing, with all the playtuning still built around four sets, but having the option for a fifth if players/modders care to populate the images. Doing it like that would presumably require fewer changes to the code, because it's not like you need to add a line to say "keep this part the same" (as long as you didn't already add a line which would make that part be different).

You can not have a set only apply to certain girls who have images. The game has to assume any girl added to the game has all the images in their folder and has no way of checking with HTML. - Adding another category will make it harder for people to add girls to the game also people will want videos of porn not photos and the cycle continues.

If you want your own porn audition studio, create your own mod with models that just have nude and porn photos then rename the sets from Normal, Lingerie, Topless, Nude to Nude, Blowjob, Sex, Special

You can then replace ModelsCore.lsm with your mod.

 

[obsessionau]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but part of the appeal (to me) of this game compared with many others on here is the softcore aspect. Few games on F95 just offer beautiful ladies and nothing more. If more hardcore events are added, I would appreciate if there was a toggle to disable them, along with the already existing ones.

I think I have mentioned this somewhere that I want to add a checkbox so users can disable events. This is an easy add.
Events begin to slow down the game when you add 450+ models to the game.

I wanted a casual game that first and foremost had pretty girls which don't constantly change appearance, hair colour etc depending on the scene. Second, I wanted to be able to play it without much focus (ie when I am browsing youtube or half asleep after a long day at work). Porn and VN's are best served elsewhere.

 

[rb813]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but part of the appeal (to me) of this game compared with many others on here is the softcore aspect. Few games on F95 just offer beautiful ladies and nothing more. If more hardcore events are added, I would appreciate if there was a toggle to disable them, along with the already existing ones.

Yes, I do think that's a good niche to fill, and I believe in letting everyone have their own type of fun. I personally starting playing this game because I was looking for a management game where nobody has sex with the OP, so what I'm looking for is a little more broad than you, but I still completely understand wanting this game to occupy a niche that very few other games make any effort to fill.

You can not have a set only apply to certain girls who have images.

Certainly not without adding a bool to each model. But wouldn't it be possible to do something where the bool defaults to be false for everyone (no fifth set), but modders can put "fifthset : true" in the .lsm for a particular girl they want to add more pics to? Then have the fifth button only ever show up if the bool is true for that girl. Obviously this is your game so you know the ins and outs of this better than I do, and I'm certainly not gonna be mad if you don't make any fundamental changes to it, just kinda thinking out loud about how it hypothetically might be possible.

Truth be told, I am actually kinda leaning toward trying to work on my own game, that would be kinda like a cross between this and Porn Empire (but still with real women). Because yes, you're right that I wouldn't mind having video in a game like this. At the end of the day, you're the one who has actually made a fully-realized game, that clearly appeals to plenty of people's tastes, so I should just try to make a game that suits my tastes instead of bugging you to change your game to suit my tastes. But hey, I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my comments, I was kinda just thinking out loud about random stuff, and I didn't really expect this much of a conversation to come out of it.

 

[LottaLoyaltyForAHiredGun]

Truth be told, I am actually kinda leaning toward trying to work on my own game, that would be kinda like a cross between this and Porn Empire (but still with real women). Because yes, you're right that I wouldn't mind having video in a game like this. At the end of the day, you're the one who has actually made a fully-realized game, that clearly appeals to plenty of people's tastes, so I should just try to make a game that suits my tastes instead of bugging you to change your game to suit my tastes. But hey, I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my comments, I was kinda just thinking out loud about random stuff, and I didn't really expect this much of a conversation to come out of it.

Have you tried Venus's Club or The Ultimate Stripper Club? Management gameplay, video clips of real porn, sex with the player character is optional, sex in general is optional?

 

[rb813]

Have you tried Venus's Club or The Ultimate Stripper Club? Management gameplay, video clips of real porn, sex with the player character is optional, sex in general is optional?

Nope. I used to be pretty prejudiced against real-porn games, so I've probably passed on a bunch of decent games like that over the years. I'll probably also be looking into A Photographer's Lies to see if that sparks any inspiration (at first glance, it seems a little too rigidly locked into a specific narrative structure, the kind of game where you need to follow a walkthrough to unlock new girls), but I'll check out those two as well.

 

[rb813]

Do you have a bunch of girlpacks for Venus Club installed, or do you stick with the basic vanilla version? I find the customizability and expandability of games like this to be a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing because it means the game can be a lot more expansive and less repetitive than what would be possible with one artist making renders. But it's a curse because I have this annoying all-or-nothing mindset where I feel like I'm not getting the full experience of the game unless I get all the mods right away, and it seems like there are quite a few for Venus Club.

 

[Plonk]

Do you have a bunch of girlpacks for Venus Club installed, or do you stick with the basic vanilla version? I find the customizability and expandability of games like this to be a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing because it means the game can be a lot more expansive and less repetitive than what would be possible with one artist making renders. But it's a curse because I have this annoying all-or-nothing mindset where I feel like I'm not getting the full experience of the game unless I get all the mods right away, and it seems like there are quite a few for Venus Club.

For games like Venus' Club the vanilla version tends to just be a "template" of sorts and you're better off grabbing packs. Haven't played VC for some time but iirc, quality of the packs also vary greatly and they can take up a ton of space if storage is an issue.

I do recommend A Photographer's Lies. It is quite linear though but there is a ton of content for it, even without mods.

Another game that might be up your alley is Whoremaster. A brothel management game that has plenty of girlpacks for both anime and real girls. The main game images can even be converted from anime to realistic.

 

[obsessionau]

Certainly not without adding a bool to each model. But wouldn't it be possible to do something where the bool defaults to be false for everyone (no fifth set), but modders can put "fifthset : true" in the .lsm for a particular girl they want to add more pics to? Then have the fifth button only ever show up if the bool is true for that girl. Obviously this is your game so you know the ins and outs of this better than I do, and I'm certainly not gonna be mad if you don't make any fundamental changes to it, just kinda thinking out loud about how it hypothetically might be possible.

There are a thousand ways and then some you could approach it and I do appreciate the idea.
It is not a feature I would personally use so from my perspective it is extra work that complicates the code and future modifications and doesn't fit the flow of the current game - for something that has zero benefit to me.

This is actually my second attempt at this type of game. The first was set in a Pub, where you expand your pub and train your female staff ... it just didn't flow well. I actually like some of the features in that game. For example you could set what percentage of girls come from what country and it would dynamically create different girls like on the right. I have about 12 hair styles which are grey scale and then colour it in-game. Their clothes change depending on their job role etc... It was heavily inspired by free cities.

 

[rb813]

Haven't played VC for some time but iirc, quality of the packs also vary greatly and they can take up a ton of space if storage is an issue.

Yeah, VC seems like the kind of thing where obtaining (or making) and managing the mods if you really got into it would be so much work that I might as well just put the effort into making my own game instead. I'll play around with it a little to see if it sparks any inspiration for my project, but unless it's so amazing that I never want to play any other sex game ever again, I don't think I'll keep it around very long. The huge list of girlpacks feels like a black hole that I could get sucked into.

Another game that might be up your alley is Whoremaster. A brothel management game that has plenty of girlpacks for both anime and real girls.

Yeah, I had a phase a while back where I played that quite a lot. I guess that's how I know Venus Club is something I could get sucked into if I'm not careful. I also recently played a game called Escort Dreams (and spent some time trying to expand the clip library of that from a few short looping gifs to a bunch of longer clips).

I think the reason this game has captured my interest so much is that I find something very elegant about the design philosophy of "let's take these pictures of models and use them as real-porn graphics to represent... pictures of models." The thing that's great about an artist making art specifically for a game is that the image or animation will pretty much always be relevant to the context of how it fits into the game. If the script of a game has a scene where a girl is wearing a cheerleader costume while getting fucked in a gazebo at sunset, good luck finding a real porn clip of that. But if you're an artist, you can just make that scene to your exact specifications. I think that's why I tend to be prejudiced against real-porn graphics, because they tend to feel like placeholders a lot of the time. But with a context like a photographer taking pictures of models, it's very much a one-to-one correspondence between what the photographic images actually are, and what they represent in the game. So I think if I do make a game with real porn (probably a mix of pics and video), it's gonna be about a studio where cameramen take pictures and video, so the real-graphics graphics can just be the pics and video that they're recording. I think that will feel a lot more like a natural use of real-porn than trying to use one thing to represent another thing that it was never meant to represent (like how in Venus Club, random videos of a pornstar dancing around in someone's living room is supposed to represent a performance at a strip club).

 

[dusty stu]

So does this have sex and full nudity or not? (no mods).
It has the 'no sexual content' tag but even in the featured photos I see a vag.
???

Edit: It's softcore porn, I don't think the 'no sex' tag applies. I see penty of nipples and vags in the game files.

 

[dusty stu]

Yeah, VC seems like the kind of thing where obtaining (or making) and managing the mods if you really got into it would be so much work that I might as well just put the effort into making my own game instead. I'll play around with it a little to see if it sparks any inspiration for my project, but unless it's so amazing that I never want to play any other sex game ever again, I don't think I'll keep it around very long. The huge list of girlpacks feels like a black hole that I could get sucked into.



Yeah, I had a phase a while back where I played that quite a lot. I guess that's how I know Venus Club is something I could get sucked into if I'm not careful. I also recently played a game called Escort Dreams (and spent some time trying to expand the clip library of that from a few short looping gifs to a bunch of longer clips).

I think the reason this game has captured my interest so much is that I find something very elegant about the design philosophy of "let's take these pictures of models and use them as real-porn graphics to represent... pictures of models." The thing that's great about an artist making art specifically for a game is that the image or animation will pretty much always be relevant to the context of how it fits into the game. If the script of a game has a scene where a girl is wearing a cheerleader costume while getting fucked in a gazebo at sunset, good luck finding a real porn clip of that. But if you're an artist, you can just make that scene to your exact specifications. I think that's why I tend to be prejudiced against real-porn graphics, because they tend to feel like placeholders a lot of the time. But with a context like a photographer taking pictures of models, it's very much a one-to-one correspondence between what the photographic images actually are, and what they represent in the game. So I think if I do make a game with real porn (probably a mix of pics and video), it's gonna be about a studio where cameramen take pictures and video, so the real-graphics graphics can just be the pics and video that they're recording. I think that will feel a lot more like a natural use of real-porn than trying to use one thing to represent another thing that it was never meant to represent (like how in Venus Club, random videos of a pornstar dancing around in someone's living room is supposed to represent a performance at a strip club).

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