Things you can't stand in porn games.

[Hans Zuchter]

I'll start:

Forced Fetishes - Pick a fetish, any fetish. Clearly it's something the developer loves. They love it so much that they're going to make an inescapable part of the of the story, whether you like it or not - and you're answer is definitely "not." Looking at you, Rozz.

Games Made from Other Games - Someone took their pirated a copy of any random Illusion game, fired up Studio mode, took a bunch of screenshots, loaded them into RenPy and is now trying to scam people out of money on Patreon for all of their "hard work."

Theme Blender from Hell - This game begins with you in the Middle Ages, but then you get abducted by a UFO and meet a bunch of aliens, then fall through a dimensional vortex in the world of Kingdom Hearts and finally you escape from Hades by having a three some with an Amazon, a ghost and Satan, which unlocks your psychic powers that are fueled by using mana crystals that you dropped out of a steam-powered tube system after you hacked a computer system with your cyberdeck.

That One A-hole Who Demands Futa and/or Incest in Everything - And has never offered up even $1 in their entire life to anyone's Patreon, but you better do what they say because reasons.

That One A-Hole Who Puts Futa and/or Incest in Everything - See "Forced Fetish," above. Will abandon project the moment their Patreon income dips below $10K per month.

Trying to Cram Combat Systems into RenPy Games - Maybe one game in a hundred actually makes this work, and it sure as hell ain't yours, pal.

Doing It Completely Backward - You can add sex to a functional RPG. You can't make an RPG out of random sex scenes lazily tied together. A VN, yes, but not an RPG.

The Token Freak Girl - A perfectly normal, non-sci, non-magical world with regular homes, people with jobs and a believable protagonist going through a semi-believable story... and on day 12 a fucking magical fairy cat-girl from Mars appears and sneaks in through your bedroom window.

Your Black Friend Kevin - He is always bald, always wears sunglasses, always wears an orange shirt, always acts like he's a player and yet never gets laid despite always working as a bartender. Either come up with a more original character, don't bother with the character or at least let the guy actually get some pussy for himself for once, sheesh.

Now Starting Project Number Five - Projects one through four are all filed under "Abandoned." It's time to admit that game making is not for you.

That Idiot Who Tells You To Go Make Your Own Damn Game - He's probably already commented before even reading this far.

Russian Projects - Version 0.00001 Alpha-Alpha is now up and check out my Patreon page, my Kickstarter page, my GoFund me and my link to deposit Bitcoin directly to me via your checking account routing number. My god, how stupid do you think we are? Wait... someone is actually subscribed to that? Ugh, nevermind.

The Glorious Tech Demo - It's huge, it's beautiful, it's breathtaking... and there is no actual game, nor will there ever be one. They're really just trying to con you into paying for their Unreal Engine license so they can go make something else entirely, and it will have nothing to do with porn.

 

[Hagatagar]

Forced Fetishes - Pick a fetish, any fetish. Clearly it's something the developer loves. They love it so much that they're going to make an inescapable part of the of the story, whether you like it or not - and you're answer is definitely "not." Looking at you, Rozz.

If it's a fetish the dev likes, then it's okay. It's his game after all and of course he will make a game with something he likes himself.
It only really becomes an issue when the dev inserts kinks just to cater to the masses and these then often appear empty and meaningless.
To deny a developer to include his favorite kinks is pretty much the same as telling a dev which kinks he has to include.

Your Black Friend Kevin - He is always bald, always wears sunglasses, always wears an orange shirt, always acts like he's a player and yet never gets laid despite always working as a bartender. Either come up with a more original character, don't bother with the character or at least let the guy actually get some pussy for himself for once, sheesh.

His name is Tyrone, not Kevin.

 

[Hans Zuchter]

If it's a fetish the dev likes, then it's okay. It's his game after all and of course he will make a game with something he likes himself.

It's an issue when the fetish is placed into an on-rails encounter that you can't escape from or acts as a barrier to progress, thus forcing the player to go engage in it. Ergo, "forced fetishes."

 

[HarveyD]

That One A-Hole Who Puts Futa and/or Incest in Everything - See "Forced Fetish," above. Will abandon project the moment their Patreon income dips below $10K per month.

Isn't this just a Futa and/or incest game? Nothing wrong with some focus.

 

[Hans Zuchter]

It's called an "off switch" and it's amazing how many people can't figure them out.

 

[Winterfire]

Forced Fetishes - Pick a fetish, any fetish. Clearly it's something the developer loves. They love it so much that they're going to make an inescapable part of the of the story, whether you like it or not - and you're answer is definitely "not." Looking at you, Rozz.

That is actually pretty normal, people can tell when you write something regarding a fetish you do not like or do not understand. I know because I tried.
As such, it is much easier for everyone involved to focus on the fetishes they like and understand, and make a game about them. Nothing wrong with it, if you do not like a fetish, simply go for another game.
While big games often have multiple fetishes (and writers), some games focus on specific fetishes.

Games Made from Other Games - Someone took their pirated a copy of any random Illusion game, fired up Studio mode, took a bunch of screenshots, loaded them into RenPy and is now trying to scam people out of money on Patreon for all of their "hard work."

It is actually not as easy as you may believe.
Studio Neo is a scene editor, no different than DAZ3D or other scene editors, perhaps it lacks some of the advanced features (that mods often add).
The only difference which makes it "not right" is that the assets belong to Illusion (at least the non modded ones), whereas in DAZ3D you can buy a license for each asset.
However, difficulty-wise, it is the same.

 

[Ying Ko]

The multitude of these threads, one would suffice.

 

[Meaning Less]

The multitude of these threads, one would suffice.

People just love to complain, even though it amounts to nothing.

 

[Sphere42]

It's an issue when the fetish is placed into an on-rails encounter that you can't escape from or acts as a barrier to progress, thus forcing the player to go engage in it. Ergo, "forced fetishes."

Only if that content is not disclosed beforehand. And/or illegal for the dev I guess. Some fetishise sexual orientations or gender expression, you can't have an "off switch" for those and still write a realistic cohesive character. Plus it's immensely impractical, like sure you could skip a short fisting scene but what about kissing? Or anal? Or oral? Do you make separate toggles for pegging and cunnilingus? An extra one specifically for deepthroating? Maybe just do your due diligence and exclude the "futa/trans" tag if you're that sensitive?

 

[woody554]

I'll start:

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wow. it must be difficult to find anything to play!

 

[anne O'nymous]

Forced Fetishes [...]
That One A-Hole Who Puts Futa and/or Incest in Everything [...]
Trying to Cram Combat Systems into RenPy Games [...]
The Token Freak Girl [...]
Your Black Friend Kevin [...]

Oh, look, yet another asshole who believe that devs must do like he want, and that whatever don't please him is forced, because the fuck if he act like an adult and stop, or don't even starts, playing game with content he don't like.

Since there's in your list few point regarding only players, personally what I can't stand is jerks like you.

 

[c3p0]

The Glorious Tech Demo - It's huge, it's beautiful, it's breathtaking... and there is no actual game, nor will there ever be one. They're really just trying to con you into paying for their Unreal Engine license so they can go make something else entirely, and it will have nothing to do with porn.

Must be expensive to have one. So, how much must I pay a dev so they could afford one?

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What 0$?!? Can't be, sure they are hidden cost... 5% royality I know it .... if the lifetime gross revenue exceeds 1 000 000 $. So, you're right, I must pay a dev > 1 000 000 $, so he needs to pay 5% of all the lifetime gross revenue that exceeds 1 000 000 $. Would mean they either sell 40 000 copies of a 20 $ game or have over 16 000 patreon/subscribtors paying 5$/per month for over a year. Only 7 adult game devs may earn that much in that time acording to

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So, yes, paying for the Unreal Engine license is a major isssue.

Also what I can't stand is the xth thread that ask, what we can't stand.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Also what I can't stand is the xth thread that ask, what we can't stand.

And risk to not change the world because his voice, the voice of the undeniable universal truth, wouldn't be heard ?

 

[c3p0]

And risk to not change the world because his voice, the voice of the undeniable universal truth, wouldn't be heard ?

I can live with it.

 

[qwsaq]

It's an issue when the fetish is placed into an on-rails encounter that you can't escape from or acts as a barrier to progress, thus forcing the player to go engage in it. Ergo, "forced fetishes."

On one hand I kinda get you if the game's presentation shows nothing to suggest that the fetish is there. I'd be a little irritated if I were playing some vanilla dating sim or something and then suddenly one of the girls wants to take a fat shit in the MC's mouth. But all too often these complaints come up in games that are very obviously about whatever kink it is they're put off by.
Like bro, you downloaded "Shitting Dick Nipples Paradise [0.43]." What did you think was gonna be in it?

 

[NeonSelf]

100 UI buttons with tutorial that takes forever - Let me use 2-3 game mechanics from the start and hide everything else till later. There are games where tutorial takes 30 screenshots and by the end of reading it I already forget the beginning.

Unplayable without guide\wiki in background - There is a crap ton of hidden values, character schedules, conflicting quest lines. And ingame hints are just not enough to keep playing without some guide.

Random results by same actions - There is some RND that triggers story event on mondays at specific location that is needed to progress your quest. And you have to skip weeks in game or save-load to trigger it. Its not gameplay, its torture.

Game without gameplay - Its not fun to play a game where I have to make 1-2 decisions per hour. Here is a boring story about your father, his cat, a picture of random event... And zero useful info to make next important decision in game. Actually, someone just asked what Ice cream flavor you like, and your choice doesnt change anything in this story.

 

[Rafster]

Forced Fetishes - Pick a fetish, any fetish. Clearly it's something the developer loves. They love it so much that they're going to make an inescapable part of the of the story, whether you like it or not - and you're answer is definitely "not." Looking at you, Rozz.

Poor Rozz

I think I know what you mean, maybe you're referring when a not so mainstream kink, like any BDSM, watersports, humiliation or whatever. I have a lot of those in certain events on the main missions (I'm a fan of BDSM and humiliation) but I warn the players beforehand and give them the options to not see the images and even blurr the text.

But remember, devs will include whatever kinks they are into, and maybe they are not avoidable. The best practice is ALWAYS ask in the thread if you see a particular fetish or kink you're adverse.

If everyone started to make only vanilla hugging and hand holding games, this whole genre would be so boring....

 

[milfluv69]

Specific to sandbox games but LOCKING PROGRESS WITH A CHARACTER BEHIND PROGRESS WITH ANOTHER

There's nothing worse than just wanting to smash one character and then the walkthrough informing you that to continue you need to progress with the character that you've been ignoring all game because you have no interest in them. It's the biggest sin of sandbox design imo

 

[Rafster]

Specific to sandbox games but LOCKING PROGRESS WITH A CHARACTER BEHIND PROGRESS WITH ANOTHER

That's a very flawed design, fortunately I never played a game with that but I'm sure there are many with this defect. This only confuse the users.

 

[Cosy Creator]

Forced Fetishes - Pick a fetish, any fetish. Clearly it's something the developer loves. They love it so much that they're going to make an inescapable part of the of the story, whether you like it or not - and you're answer is definitely "not." Looking at you, Rozz.

There are bad ways to handle fetishes - I just uninstalled a game that seemed to be based on a kink I like, but gradually descended into kiddy porn for example. But it seems more like you're complaining about any fetish content at all being fundamental to the story. I think a lot of fetishes require the story to be written around them from the ground up to fully explore them. So a good example of this would be a voyeuristic foot fetish game about a podiatrist - you can't really make all the foot shit optional in this game, and if you did the game's whole premise would be pointless.