Things you're tired of seeing in a game?

[dontcarewhateverno]

Most tiring: You're a young man?!? Who's just started college [or moved back to your old town, ect, ect]?!?!? With a bevvy of babes you suddenly have a chance with?!?!?!?!? The worst. Do we really need another?

Also bad. Erotically unappealing art: Big-eyed anime faces that look like they were drawn by an Otaku obsessed 12 year old girl. Also bad Das3d models with no life in their poses + no subtlety in their facial expressions.

Honorable mention: Games based on repetition and grind to pad the playtime practically aren't worth mentioning, since there are just so many of them too.

 

[qwsaq]

Most tiring: You're a young man?!? Who's just started college [or moved back to your old town, ect, ect]?!?!? With a bevvy of babes you suddenly have a chance with?!?!?!?!? The worst. Do we really need another?

I feel like this might be a bit broad of a thing to gripe about. It's basically an Isekai without the supernatural elements. This particular approach might be a bit lazy. But it's pretty much Creative Writing 101 that the opening act should have some sort of "inciting incident" which explains why the MC's meeting all these new faces and why all this interesting shit is suddenly starting to happen.
The lazy approach is fine as long as it kicks off something interesting.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I feel like this might be a bit broad of a thing to gripe about. It's basically an Isekai without the supernatural elements. This particular approach might be a bit lazy. But it's pretty much Creative Writing 101 that the opening act should have some sort of "inciting incident" which explains why the MC's meeting all these new faces and why all this interesting shit is suddenly starting to happen.
The lazy approach is fine as long as it kicks off something interesting.

What?

I'm not against inciting incidents, for fucks sake.

Just sick to death of the "you're a young man, off to college (or where-ever, starting your new life), and suddenly a shit-ton of girls are interested in you for some implausible reason".

Thread is about what we're sick of seeing and I'm sick of seeing that. Done to death & seems like the set-up of almost half these games. "I disagree. You can't be sick of that.... for reasons."

 

[Gwedelino]

Just my point of view, but games using a real life set-up and trying to stick close to it.

One of the biggest advantages games have over "mainstream" porn is that they can feature unrealistic situations that we won't ever be able to experience in our lifes.

I don't care about Billy going to university, fucking every girl he can. Billy could be fighting Monster Girls in another universe, discovering aliens in a space adventure, revealing cultists in a twisted dimension.

But instead Billy decided to fuck his sister in her room, fuck his teacher in his classroom and peep at his classmates in the swimming club showers.

What a lack of ambition you have Billy...

 

[qwsaq]

seems like the set-up of almost half these games.

That's kinda my point, dude. It's also roughly the opening of about half of all stories ever. "Young man starts new life" is just a bog-standard setup. It's a convenient way of explaining where you are and how you got there. It's like complaining about the point-and-click control scheme.
As far as "women all suddenly want to fuck you" goes: well it's a porn game. Do you complain when you play an action RPG and everything that doesn't want to sell you something suddenly wants to kill you?

You can complain all you want. Was my post anything more than me complaining about you complaining? Then you complained about me complaining about your complaining and now I'm complaining about you complaining about me complaining about your initial complaint. Welcome to the Internet!

 

[grohotor]

Manlet MC. Seriously, WHY?!

Horse dick...on a manlet. UGH

Women arranged in height and build according to age. little sister is the smallest, big sister is taller than MC and the Mom is massive, every single time. Fun fact, women are not snakes that keep growing with age. After 16 you will get like an inch more and be done.
As a male being shorter than your mother by the time you enter high school is usually a sign of some health issue.

Milfs in general

Stupidly large breasts and asses.

The MC having little to no actual character. Having the MC be the weakest character in the story is stupid.

The girls having no reason at all to like the MC because his personality is non existent and he is "aesthetically and intellectually disadvantaged"

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

That's kinda my point, dude. It's also roughly the opening of about half of all stories ever. "Young man starts new life" is just a bog-standard setup. It's a convenient way of explaining where you are and how you got there. It's like complaining about the point-and-click control scheme.
As far as "women all suddenly want to fuck you" goes: well it's a porn game. Do you complain when you play an action RPG and everything that doesn't want to sell you something suddenly wants to kill you?

You can complain all you want. Was my post anything more than me complaining about you complaining? Then you complained about me complaining about your complaining and now I'm complaining about you complaining about me complaining about your initial complaint. Welcome to the Internet!

Was ridiculous, is all. "You can't not like that! It's invalid" on a "things you are tired of seeing" post. There are plenty of scenarios to create far beyond "young man starts new life, gets harem." The fact that it's so common is not a point for it being invalid. Quite the opposite.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

It's the basic self insert for devs and how they imagine the people who pay for their games:

• A wimpy kid, so he goes to the gym a few times to get strength+1 to beat up the bully
• Antisocial kid, so he reads a book and watches a few videos to gather "charisma"
• No marketable skills or job, so he does a vague optional job on the computer that gives him money
• Never went outside, so he hits on the female family members, with the father conveniently removed
• Always took the path of least resistance, so there is no conflict or challenge in the game

I don't play games with that premise anymore because I find them lazy and boring.

That's also part of why they're so eye-rolling for me. Big self-insert for dev and players alike, no doubt, and I just can't relate. Though I'd probably grow tired of them if I did, too.

It is a valid point that "hey, that'$ where the market i$" and many of the highest earners are likely to have that premise. But also the vast majority of failures as it's hard to stand out from the pack of 10,000 other titles with the same basic premise.

 

[Bucketbot89]

Seeing middle aged men being paired with 18/"18" year old girls (Melody, Hillside, Avalon, Lexi, for example), especially since a lot of these girls tend to act like they're closer to 13 years old. Wanting to fuck 'em? Sure I can see that. Wanting to spend the rest of their lives together, having kids and whatnot? Nah, can't buy it.

Another thing I've been noticing lately is games will stop the story or a conversation in its' tracks to shoehorn in a reference to another game for no good reason (I swear if I see that singer chick from Leap of Faith in one more game that isn't Leap of Faith, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. Fun game, fun character, don't need to see her in 15 different games). I mean it's cool that you are all friends and all, but keep it subtle/in the background, please. Ideally, leave your shoutouts to the credits/Patron-thank you section of your game.

 

[qwsaq]

Was ridiculous, is all. "You can't not like that! It's invalid" on a "things you are tired of seeing" post. There are plenty of scenarios to create far beyond "young man starts new life, gets harem." The fact that it's so common is not a point for it being invalid. Quite the opposite.

I guess my main thing here is that a complaint worth vocalizing should be something that results in a better game if heeded.
My personal gripe that I've posted in this thread was about games that have one choice which fundamentally alters how the game progresses. That makes the game suck for everyone for a myriad of logistical reasons.
Another common complaint is the bizarre proportions a lot of games have with their characters. You mentioned this one yourself so I doubt it needs elaboration.

The point of contention here is that you're complaining about... a one paragraph blurb describing why the MC is where he is? It's not even really a premise to the story in most of these cases. It's just a hand-wavy way of saying "you're here now. Go do things." I'll agree that it's lazy. I just question how it's your #1 gripe. Lol.

 

[Quadruple-Q]

It is annoying however when the game doesn't let you pick what clothes you want the LI to wear, and if the article of clothing is never worn again for the rest of the story.

If they give players the option to choose a set of clothing then they would have to render every scene multiple times (depending on the amount of options) from that point onwards. Which would be an explosion of development time with very little pay-off.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

The point of contention here is that you're complaining about... a one paragraph blurb describing why the MC is where he is? It's not even really a premise to the story in most of these cases. It's just a hand-wavy way of saying "you're here now. Go do things." I'll agree that it's lazy. I just question how it's your #1 gripe. Lol.

Dude. I think maybe you just have a reading comprehension issue? It's not just the blurb. It's the whole damn premise & specifics of the story that bore me. I think maybe you just can't comprehend that someone couldn't possibly like what you do: Young. Male. Starting his new life (especially off-to-college or just graduated). Incoming implausible harem. No thanks. I know, it's mind blowing.

Talking in circles. So, you do you. Like what you like. I'll allow you to continue being baffled by my disinterest.

 

[qwsaq]

"Landlady-Roommate" things with too much care to MC, it's fair to ask for.

To be clear: The landlord/roommate thing is literally because Patreon specifically cracks down on incest games.
9 times out of 10, those are games where the dev initially wanted incest content but dialled it back either through direct pressure by Patreon or in anticipation of it.

 

[Gwedelino]

I am not sure which games you are talking about, but if games have "Landlady-Roommate" things with too much care to MC, it's fair to ask for.
Also, can you give me a few examples for that kind of game threads?

Oops, I posted on the wrong thread.

Was juggling between this one and the "your unpopular takes" thread.

 

[bossman_212]

big tits and big asses, the two most over used tags. Why make a character with unrealistic tits that are bigger than there head? 90% of all the games here, big fucking ugly tits and a huge onion ass...brings tears to my eyes

 

[doomslug78]

To be clear: The landlord/roommate thing is literally because Patreon specifically cracks down on incest games.
9 times out of 10, those are games where the dev initially wanted incest content but dialled it back either through direct pressure by Patreon or in anticipation of it.

Yes, it's a very clever way of bypassing that restriction and usually they let people change the names to whatever or provide some patch to change the text.

I think letting players change the relations is a really cool feature too because some people might have other things in mind and it doesn't really break the game tbh.

 

[Deleted member 5732714]

To be clear: The landlord/roommate thing is literally because Patreon specifically cracks down on incest games.
9 times out of 10, those are games where the dev initially wanted incest content but dialled it back either through direct pressure by Patreon or in anticipation of it.

I'm OK with that if the game has well-made patch with not only character name changes, but also the dialogues.
Otherwise, patreon is not the only platform for monetizing an adult game.

Demon Deals in SubscribeStar and make $7000+ / month.

 

[ayy]

If they give players the option to choose a set of clothing then they would have to render every scene multiple times (depending on the amount of options) from that point onwards. Which would be an explosion of development time with very little pay-off.

Oh aye I understand that. But its a tease in a bad way

 

[CachedBaguette]

Yes, it's a very clever way of bypassing that restriction and usually they let people change the names to whatever or provide some patch to change the text.

I think letting players change the relations is a really cool feature too because some people might have other things in mind and it doesn't really break the game tbh.

It is something, but even so incest games are losing their meaning by that censorship. Mostly because of the developer is afraid to directly define the relationship between characters later in the game. Yes, you can change how they address each other, but they will still act as if they are not related at all.

 

[Doorknob22]

In Loli games: developers who are obsessed with making every girl the MC's daughter.
1. His daughters? His daughters.
2. His daughter's friends? Also his daughters. He had a one night stand with their moms X years ago.
3. His nieces (always from his sister, never from his brother)? Also his daughters. MC fucked his sister X years ago.