One way I'd like to see more defs address this is by highlighting any gameplay relevant text. Literally have the characters acknowledge whatever variables you're using to decide pass/fail and highlight them.
Things you're tired of seeing in a game?
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It's a minor thing, but I hate it when you play as a male character and the game has those obligatory shower or pissing scenes that pan the camera downwards so you can see the PC's dick. I mean, why? When it's a sex scene, it's justified, but when your character is alone, I'd rather avoid seeing their dick altogether.
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Not just things I'm tired of, but some of them i didn't want to see in the first place too.
1. So many times that i see a RPGM game, it uses fucking DAZ or some other shit like that, but the actual gameplay parts is default RPGM assets. Just 2 different art styles that do not match at all and using default assets is just lazy and a sign of low quality, even games that use 2d art do this shit. Devs who use this engine do not know what a tileset or RPGM parallax mapping is ? Or do not know that you can make characters bigger than 1 tile... The level design in these games is also terrible with no effort put in it most of the time. As if they don't even care about that part of the game, why even use RPGM then ? Go put your renders'n'shit in Ren'py, unlike RPGM its even free.
Damn... I really fucking hate the overabundance of this DAZ renders shit in RPGM section, shit that could be made in Ren'py but devs use RPGM instead For one Lona RPG there is thousands of this garbage, so i just exclude RPGM from my search, which sucks cuz i probably missed some other gems in this sea of shit...
2.All these side-scroller female MC rape games that wants you to suck at at the game to see the content, you know the ones, there's plenty of em. Most of theese games are also fucking easy and it's really hard to suck at them. And seeing the
H-content = insta game over, start over from a save, none of what you saw done to ur MC ever actually happened.
It is really shitty game design tbh, you have 2 elements to the gameplay that do not synergize with each other in any way and even contradictory in nature, you play good ? get punished by not seeing H-content like ever. It is sad that in these games this objectively bad game design choice is kind of an industry standard and devs do not want to make things different.
There are games that are least offenders or bring something else to the genre. Like the game "Captivity" being a wave based survive as long as you can game, where you eventually will lose no matter what and see all the H-scenes, and also unlock some new stuff trough achievements. And "Sinisistar" which is hard and you probably will lose a lot but checkpoints are everywhere so you won't lose much progress and can see all the scenes for each level easily. It also features losing not being a game over in some levels, where you are being captured instead and can escape after an H-scene multiple times before true game over, it's like a life system from older games, pretty cool, i wish more such games would use such feature. And Kincaid lets you fuck enemies you defeated, which is cool too.
3.Zombies, as if it wasn't an overused trope to begin with in normal media. Zombies are just boring and overused, and people don't even try to be creative about them.
4. Game 0.01 versions and stuff like that. Barren wastelands in terms of content, with less then 1 hour of gameplay, Barely even a tech demo cuz there is no tech in those, just shit and placeholders. I get that early access is now an industry standard, but i think there should be a line of what is acceptable. At least make a core gameplay loop ready and working and some shit to do in game. Oh and when those games have a patreon, damn... ain't that my favorite. It is also fun when checking the comments to see people saying "not really a game yet... BUT WOW IT HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL" bruh, no it doesn't, just say it's shit.
That's about all the stuff i'm absolutely tired that i can think of right now. Majority of games here feel kinda samey too, very hard to find something original that would caught my eye, and that is truly tiresome.
1. So many times that i see a RPGM game, it uses fucking DAZ or some other shit like that, but the actual gameplay parts is default RPGM assets. Just 2 different art styles that do not match at all and using default assets is just lazy and a sign of low quality, even games that use 2d art do this shit. Devs who use this engine do not know what a tileset or RPGM parallax mapping is ? Or do not know that you can make characters bigger than 1 tile... The level design in these games is also terrible with no effort put in it most of the time. As if they don't even care about that part of the game, why even use RPGM then ? Go put your renders'n'shit in Ren'py, unlike RPGM its even free.
Damn... I really fucking hate the overabundance of this DAZ renders shit in RPGM section, shit that could be made in Ren'py but devs use RPGM instead For one Lona RPG there is thousands of this garbage, so i just exclude RPGM from my search, which sucks cuz i probably missed some other gems in this sea of shit...
2.All these side-scroller female MC rape games that wants you to suck at at the game to see the content, you know the ones, there's plenty of em. Most of theese games are also fucking easy and it's really hard to suck at them. And seeing the
H-content = insta game over, start over from a save, none of what you saw done to ur MC ever actually happened.
It is really shitty game design tbh, you have 2 elements to the gameplay that do not synergize with each other in any way and even contradictory in nature, you play good ? get punished by not seeing H-content like ever. It is sad that in these games this objectively bad game design choice is kind of an industry standard and devs do not want to make things different.
There are games that are least offenders or bring something else to the genre. Like the game "Captivity" being a wave based survive as long as you can game, where you eventually will lose no matter what and see all the H-scenes, and also unlock some new stuff trough achievements. And "Sinisistar" which is hard and you probably will lose a lot but checkpoints are everywhere so you won't lose much progress and can see all the scenes for each level easily. It also features losing not being a game over in some levels, where you are being captured instead and can escape after an H-scene multiple times before true game over, it's like a life system from older games, pretty cool, i wish more such games would use such feature. And Kincaid lets you fuck enemies you defeated, which is cool too.
3.Zombies, as if it wasn't an overused trope to begin with in normal media. Zombies are just boring and overused, and people don't even try to be creative about them.
4. Game 0.01 versions and stuff like that. Barren wastelands in terms of content, with less then 1 hour of gameplay, Barely even a tech demo cuz there is no tech in those, just shit and placeholders. I get that early access is now an industry standard, but i think there should be a line of what is acceptable. At least make a core gameplay loop ready and working and some shit to do in game. Oh and when those games have a patreon, damn... ain't that my favorite. It is also fun when checking the comments to see people saying "not really a game yet... BUT WOW IT HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL" bruh, no it doesn't, just say it's shit.
That's about all the stuff i'm absolutely tired that i can think of right now. Majority of games here feel kinda samey too, very hard to find something original that would caught my eye, and that is truly tiresome.
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Pixel art is top tier, bad taste.
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You realise that ultimately ALL games are pixels right? That would be the point of the post?
You've been sniffing too much wolfgirl arse and got high haven't you?
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>he still uses a pixel base monitorYou realise that ultimately ALL games are pixels right? That would be the point of the post?
You've been sniffing too much wolfgirl arse and got high haven't you?
ancient tech, get with the future.
All the games I play are vector based and directly sent into my brain.
Weak, docile and stupid main characters. Too many games have a main character with rare powers, years of training or secret artifacts, but instead of seeing his amazing position he just does what he is told, let others bully him around or just don't understand even the basics of subtle conversation. It's so incredibly rare to find a game with a main character who have an IQ above 10 or a functioning spine. This is not limited to strong main characters, but normal people too. I want to be able to relate to the character I'm playing as, but it's so incredibly hard to relate or even enjoy when he is like this.
Yeah, as I said I like to relate to the character I'm playing as, so I find it hard playing female characters. I do know they are usually worse, and that too needs to go tbh. I don't understand the point of playing as the female character if you are the passive one, it feels like you aren't the main character. Though I feel like you have a specific game in mind when you say that.
I'm with you on the exaggerated proportions. Not a fan. Keep it plausable for a character in real life to have that physique without surgery or steroids. Gonna disagree about the blowjobs, one of my favorite types of scene. Can't get enough of them as long as the girl is hot. Definitely agree about the right balance between some kind of build up for MC to justify the sex scene vs pointless and excessive grinding. MC should not be able to just walk into the room and say hey mom, suck my dick and have her comply. He also should not have to spend weeks and weeks grinding stats with no reward until he reaches max fitness or something.
Personally I don't mind grind if it's done right, and I do think it can be done right. But that requires putting enough work into it that you have some minor rewards you throw the players way as he progresses through that grind. To use grinding for fitness as an example, the wrong way IMO is MC goes to the gym and lifts weights 5x a week for 3 months and nothing happens during those sessions other than him lifting weights. His increased stats also make no difference until maxed.
The right way IMO is MC goes to the gym and has scenes that show an escalating series of events starting with something tame like MC just lifting weights by himself and progressing to some kind of increasingly naughty scene. Intermediate tiers of fitness should also unlock spicier content without having to be maxed out. So as an example, let's say the first time MC goes to the gym he works out and across the room is a hot girl who just completely ignores him while he works out. Next time she glances his way a few times. As his fitness improves she starts smiling at him, maybe asks if he can spot her for her lift, etc. When MC gets near max fitness maybe she follows him into the locker room and fucks him in the shower. That's a much more satisfying grind than the first option, and it's not really that much work. It doesn't require a bunch of story or dialog, just a little light flirting and eventually 1 sex scene.
Oh yeah, a lot of games here are people's first projects writing whatever he finds hot. Though one can't really criticize porn being unrealistic.
I think that if you actually manage to write a good story, people will download it. I'm not entirely sure what you mean with guys being in the platonic/motherly relationship. Though there are a lot of games with a female protagonist, I believe that you can make it a success.
I think a big part of the problem for female protagonist games is that first of all most of them probably are written by guys so their understanding of the female mind is probably questionable. Second, a story that makes sense for a guy does not make sense for a girl. A typical male protag game focuses on the guy trying to become a stud and bang as many girls as he can. It's typically portrayed as difficult for him to get sex which is how it is for most guys in real life, so it's relatable.
If you gender swapped that same story it would make no sense because a girl who wants to fuck everything that moves can literally just walk up to most guys and ask if they want to fuck and they would believably say yes. Not a very interesting game. So a female protagonist game really should focus more on something that is more difficult for a female to do like find her true love and secure his commitment. She might fuck some bad boys along the way or something, but her goal is to actually get married.
Male protag games where the guy starts off already being a stud are usually incredibly boring. They play like a female protag game where her goal is to be a slut. He just walks around hitting on girls who all immediately accept with no work required. Might as well have mind control.
Agreed - not even low IQ, it's more low emotional intelligence; many of them are very book smart; ala your stereotypical austistic engineer, yet can't read a room to save their life. This is especially obnoxious with overuse of narration when the game's writing is telling you how you should be feeling and it's the complete opposite from what you're actually thinking.
I think the other user's comments on guys being stuck in the platonic/motherly relationship while perhaps coming off as a random jab may be an accurate description of the majority playerbase, given the relative popularity of milf and incest tags (Seriously I just checked, excluded milf and incest from a 3d games search knocks the results down by a third).
Exactly! How is one to enjoy a game when the character you are playing is essentually autistic? It's unbelivably annoying to see the obvious meaning behind comments but seeing your character not understanding anything. It feels completely unatural to play a character that gets all the girls while being the step below socially akward. While porn is never realistic, it makes no semblence of sense.
Really? That's insteresting, if nothing else. I've never personaly seen the appeal, but one can't really judge on a porn site. Though it is weird that it is so prominent.
This guy:
He's everywhere. One minute he's 18. Next minute he's a 45 year old family man sleeping around. Next minute he's whacking off in a bush watching someone fuck his wife in a Ford Explorer.
So, I guess Daz in general, when people don't heavily modify the original models. It's like a Hollywood where Tom Hanks is every fifth character and everyone's wife is banging Terry Crews. Inb4 "Well, actually, that might not be.."
Really not a fan of renders from Daz3d, Honeyselect or that other commonly used anime-looking game. But at least have the decency to modify the characters enough so it's not all carbon-copy.
He's everywhere. One minute he's 18. Next minute he's a 45 year old family man sleeping around. Next minute he's whacking off in a bush watching someone fuck his wife in a Ford Explorer.
So, I guess Daz in general, when people don't heavily modify the original models. It's like a Hollywood where Tom Hanks is every fifth character and everyone's wife is banging Terry Crews. Inb4 "Well, actually, that might not be.."
Really not a fan of renders from Daz3d, Honeyselect or that other commonly used anime-looking game. But at least have the decency to modify the characters enough so it's not all carbon-copy.
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Turning sex scenes into "playable" turn-based affairs makes me lose my boner. I want the seggs to be my reward for getting through challenges, not for it to be the core gameplay!
I also dislike compulsory scenes. The OG VNs made it so that H-scenes were only unlocked if you worked for them for the most part, though I might be excluding "debauchery everywhere" affairs like Discipline. Call me whatever, but a scene between two people who have no chemistry whatsoever isn't fun at all (and I'm counting FWBs and casual hookups in the chemistry department; if your canon couple has the dynamic of a wet rag you might want to revisit them)
I also dislike compulsory scenes. The OG VNs made it so that H-scenes were only unlocked if you worked for them for the most part, though I might be excluding "debauchery everywhere" affairs like Discipline. Call me whatever, but a scene between two people who have no chemistry whatsoever isn't fun at all (and I'm counting FWBs and casual hookups in the chemistry department; if your canon couple has the dynamic of a wet rag you might want to revisit them)
Man of the House does it kind of like that, but it's a male protag game.
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Eh, since I'm here again, might as add this to the pile.
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I frigging hate these outfits, and it feels like every other Daz-based game (including some UE games at that, looking at you LifePlay!) are contractually obliged to use at least one of them. Seriously, they look like fuckbois.
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I frigging hate these outfits, and it feels like every other Daz-based game (including some UE games at that, looking at you LifePlay!) are contractually obliged to use at least one of them. Seriously, they look like fuckbois.