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TonyMurray

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I didn't pursue Dakota for two reasons: I wasn't sure if it would upset Alexis (realized way after the fact how unlikely that is in a harem AVN), but mostly because she was too pushy and entitled about it. Usually it is milfs that I turn down for that reason, so this was a first. Why did people complain originally? I assume you're implying racism was partially behind it, and I suppose that is the case for some people, but I doubt it is very high of a percentage.
Same here on both of these reasons. The fact that she pretty much came from nowhere to suddenly be on her knees in front of me was a turn-off (can and do say the same for Ava, although circumstances are different). I don't mind Dakota for looks, she's not my favourite by any stretch, but she doesn't at all look bad.
 

Naps-On-Dirt

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I think it's a pretty high percentage. I don't feel like going through the beginning of the thread but I think Ava basically supplanted Dakota at least in terms of the size of her role not necessarily the narrative direction.
Disappointing, but I believe you. It wouldn't be the first time I've mistakenly given the benefit of the doubt to people. :(
 

Blue Milk

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The Dev had intended a larger role for Dakota but a lot of people complained about her, so he dropped or reduced her role. I have my thoughts on why but I'll leave you to come up with your own conclusion.
That sucks. Dakota is honestly one of the best looking black girls I've seen in an AVN and in a genre that is starving for hot girls of color, we need more of her.

The fact that she pretty much came from nowhere to suddenly be on her knees in front of me was a turn-off
Can honestly say, I never have a problem with these kinds of forward girls who are gagging for it :devilish: No problem, imo, to have slutty girls like that, especially if they get decent character development over time.
 

sagerock820

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That sucks. Dakota is honestly one of the best looking black girls I've seen in an AVN and in a genre that is starving for hot girls of color, we need more of her.
I did not know that, that is so fucking lame. Dumbass trolls. I agree 100%, we need more girls like her.
 

Naps-On-Dirt

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That sucks. Dakota is honestly one of the best looking black girls I've seen in an AVN and in a genre that is starving for hot girls of color, we need more of her.
You're not wrong. Many AVNs only have a single token LI-of-color, and unfortunately they often get the same "sassy black girl" persona. There are two games I like where the token black LI even uses the same model and really seems like the same character. And translated games from some areas of the world don't have any at all, but thats just a reflection of the population around the dev. Can't expect someone to write a more inclusive story when they weren't raised with the ideals of diversity ingrained into their upbringing, and if they've never seen a hot black woman in person. ;)

Can honestly say, I never have a problem with these kinds of forward girls who are gagging for it :devilish: No problem, imo, to have slutty girls like that, especially if they get decent character development over time.
I don't mean it in a slut-shaming kind of way, nor do I have an issue with women being forward. :) I just find the characters that both expect you'll succumb to their advances and then get offended when you turn them down to be tiresome. Plus I'm allergic to manipulation and they are usually the characters for whom their first lewd scene is the start of their game with the MC.
 

milliecat

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It sucks that's why the Dakota character was removed, but if it's one less plot line to take up dev time, then I guess a little good came from it. She did come onto the main character a little too hard and fast, story beat wise though.

I play the female route only, it's well thought out and it's hard to find a game with a genuine female route that doesn't have a male forced into it somewhere.
 

dewayne4478

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It sucks that's why the Dakota character was removed, but if it's one less plot line to take up dev time, then I guess a little good came from it. She did come onto the main character a little too hard and fast, story beat wise though.

I play the female route only, it's well thought out and it's hard to find a game with a genuine female route that doesn't have a male forced into it somewhere.
should try summer in the city.
 
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erkper

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Dakota and Ava both give me the ick just because of their personalities and forced nature of their (entitled and expected) relationships. Speaking of which, did a fix or anything come out for Ava being forced on MC at the beginning of 0.07.50 by chance? I have done everything in my power to reject her advances and yet this update right off the bat forced a sex scene with her. I quit it at that point and figured I'd let it sit a while then see if that was a bad variable that would get fixed.
 

Blue Milk

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Will never really understand men who find very forward and insatiable women in AVNs gagging for their dick as unappealing. Generally speaking, they're only ever going to want you, the MC, so unlike IRL there's no real issue that them being like this with you could mean they're like this with other guys and therefore no NTR worries. Having hot women fawn over you and you alone making them easy lays would have seemed to me a top fantasy for most men, but I guess some just can't handle the heat :devilish:
 
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If, however, the dev had just chosen to keep it as one gender of protag, then that time would likely come down considerably, so something to consider there.
100% true. On the other hand, if he'd eliminated either route he'd lose a bunch of followers. For example, I'm in it because of the lesbian route; if it was a male protag this game would still be worth a look, but I doubt I'd bother to follow it (since I already follow numerous games of similar quality). The lesbo-harem thing is rare enough that I throw money at it.
 

milliecat

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Will never really understand men who find very forward and insatiable women in AVNs gagging for their dick as unappealing. Generally speaking, they're only ever going to want you, the MC, so unlike IRL there's no real issue that them being like this with you could mean they're like this with other guys and therefore no NTR worries. Having hot women fawn over you and you alone making them easy lays would have seemed to me a top fantasy for most men, but I guess some just can't handle the heat :devilish:
Well not all guys think with their tool first then brain second, but hey that aside. Many women don't find guys who are desperate for sex/love to be attractive. So it's fair to say that men are allowed to find desperate women to be unattractive too. I don't find desperate people attractive, but that's my take on it.
 

Anteron

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Will never really understand men who find very forward and insatiable women in AVNs gagging for their dick as unappealing. Generally speaking, they're only ever going to want you, the MC, so unlike IRL there's no real issue that them being like this with you could mean they're like this with other guys and therefore no NTR worries. Having hot women fawn over you and you alone making them easy lays would have seemed to me a top fantasy for most men, but I guess some just can't handle the heat :devilish:
I know, right? I'd have just let them take the lead and do whatever they want.
 

Blue Milk

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Well not all guys think with their tool first then brain second, but hey that aside. Many women don't find guys who are desperate for sex/love to be attractive. So it's fair to say that men are allowed to find desperate women to be unattractive too. I don't find desperate people attractive, but that's my take on it.
Well, I guess where you see "desperation" I just see people shedding inhibitions and embracing their baser needs and desires without giving a fuck about the typical and often boring societal conventions of taking things slow. At the end of the day, your ultimate goal is gonna be sex, so people like Dakota, Ava, and Mei are hot, imo, because they just cut through all the bullshit and get right to the point. And in a game where the main girls, as it were, are slowburners, we need a few barnburner girls to even it out ;)
 

erkper

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And when all that happens with a girl that doesn't even know you, she isn't desperate for YOUR dick, she's desperate for A dick. Which means she has no attachment and could care less WHOSE dick she's getting, as long as she's getting dick. Well she can get it elsewhere. I have no desire to be her living dildo.
 
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Blue Milk

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And like I said before, in AVNs, 99% of the time girls like that are going to only be getting YOUR dick and are only going to want YOUR dick because this begins their attachment to the MC which can grow to become more deep and meaningful if that's where the dev wants it to go. That's what makes the fantasy of being this desired and highly sought after babe magnet so good because you generally don't have to worry about them going around looking for other men. MC plot armor means he's the only man for them.

But even IRL you can make it into something if you really want to or just accept some nice action with a hot babe, and I'm personally fine with the latter.
 
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