- Mar 29, 2019
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I'm done. Achievements to you.: D
Koda
I need one last extra day (yes, I know) and the countdown has been adjusted accordingly. I'm sure you all want to strangle me, but on the upside: I'm really happy with how Cobra's stuff is finally coming together and hope everyone enjoys it just as much.
To quickly answer two common questions:
a) Cobra does have some new CG; I went with a subtler teaser image to avoid spoilers.
b) Bo is still working hard on 7F (and occasionally posts teasers in Discord if you want to search his username) but does not have a date set. I'll catch up with him for a more detailed progress report when I'm done with Cobra.
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after all this delay, I hope he isn't happy with how Cobra's stuff is coming together like he was happy how Yvonne expansion came together
- Jan 23, 2018
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Nah fuck it I'm gonna say it.
If you struggle this hard coding RPG maker I don't think programming is for you.
If you struggle this hard coding RPG maker I don't think programming is for you.
People keep saying how unreliable Koda is, but in reality he's one of the most predictable people out there. I can answer most update related questions with near certainty.
- "Koda said announced when the update is coming, it's coming out in about a month."
- "No."
- "Koda had a second announcement. After all the update will come out..."
- "No."
- "Another announcement!... no?"
- "No."
- "..."
- "No."
- "There's a countdown timer now!"
- "No."
- "There's another countdown timer! He only extended the deadline by a day yesterday so it's bound to come out on time!"
- "...You have 2 choices. You can either wait a couple hours after the timer goes to 0 to get it as soon as it hits, or wait a day or two extra so more impatient people have playtested the update and Koda has had a chance to post fixes for the bugs found."
I get that there is hype when things are announced, but finding other things to keep you busy so you don't spam refresh is such a quality of life upgrade.
- "Koda said announced when the update is coming, it's coming out in about a month."
- "No."
- "Koda had a second announcement. After all the update will come out..."
- "No."
- "Another announcement!... no?"
- "No."
- "..."
- "No."
- "There's a countdown timer now!"
- "No."
- "There's another countdown timer! He only extended the deadline by a day yesterday so it's bound to come out on time!"
- "...You have 2 choices. You can either wait a couple hours after the timer goes to 0 to get it as soon as it hits, or wait a day or two extra so more impatient people have playtested the update and Koda has had a chance to post fixes for the bugs found."
I get that there is hype when things are announced, but finding other things to keep you busy so you don't spam refresh is such a quality of life upgrade.
"If you criticize someone for failing to meet deadlines 50 times then you're entitled"
- May 24, 2018
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Again,
>JUST just fuck my shit up koda delay the 7th floor 2 or 3 years and put out more piss content
>This is why one must never undertake colossal porn game projects where the devs themselves can't get over jerking to their own stuff.
Truly sophisticated criticism right there.
People should really look up a definition of "patron". This isn't a contract job. You are supporting an artist so that they may have the freedom to create. Bitching about it is fine, but at this point it's just way too redundant and unhelpful.
- Jul 15, 2018
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Now you are just complaining about the complaints. I understand where you are coming from and some comments aren't exactly valid or useful criticism. It isn't contract work but right almost 6 months have passed without anything to show for it.
Patrons are paying to give the artists the freedom to create stuff but the artists need to deliver some content. The endless delays and wrong release dates have been quite frustrating to say the least. The content that they have delivered until now is great (in my opinion) and it would be a shame if this projects would fail just because they can't manage their time/release dates.
While my opinion might be worth nothing because I'm leeching and not paying for it like the patrons I at least hope they try to improve their obvious flaw of always delaying their updates. Just my two cents though.
- Dec 6, 2018
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I've criticized it too. There's way more than just criticism, lol.
They aren't just complaints. People are at the point of just flat out insulting the developers, patrons, and accusing the developers of scamming/gross incompetence. Okay; sure, you're not happy about the delays, and there are reasons to be so. But these escalated responses beg the question: what are you still doing in a thread (made for pirating the game that you probably didnt pay for) complaining? Because you're still going to wait and play it anyways -- apparently you're still confident the product is going to be good. Most rational people just shrug and move on to do something productive after voicing disappointment to a new delay.
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- Jun 17, 2018
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That's easy, the devs fill a very specific niche, they sort of have a monopoly. That's why no matter how unreliable and incompetent they are, how awful an expansion is going to be, people who are into the kinks that are represented in the game will not lose interest. If there were a lot more games like ToT then a lot more people would have left this boat, that's pretty obvious.
BTW, what you'd call entitlement I'd call respecting yourself and calling out BS. Unless you're talking about the 1-3 comments by trolls/people pissed out of their minds that you guys always cherrypick to make those of us complaining look bad
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- Jan 5, 2019
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Obviously. Nobody here is complaining about quality, the complaints are towards the poor work ethic. I don't see what the product being good has to do with anything.
- Dec 6, 2018
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They have a monopoly on a specific fetish for an rpg maker game -- they haven't monopolized the fetish and the ability to jerk off to it. People don't *need* TOT that much. I imagine if there were more competitive games, they'd be too placated to complain and would simply come back to playing once an update came out (the thing that normal people do). Anyways, it's irrelevant and doesn't justify the insults and accusations.
You're right; I *am* cherry picking specific complaints. Insulting the devs, patrons, making grandiose accusations of scamming patrons; you know, things that are cringey. Otherwise I'd just be 'making myself look bad' too.BTW, what you'd call entitlement I'd call respecting yourself and calling out BS. Unless you're talking about the 1-3 comments by trolls/people pissed out of their minds that you guys always cherrypick to make those of us complaining look bad
- Jun 17, 2018
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This is like saying that in a world where there's only one company making grape soda, people who want to drink said grape soda but don't like this company should just drink wine instead...
If there were a couple of games as good as ToT but with responsible developers, then people would complain more because of that contrast, not less. If there were was a sea of games like ToT but with responsible developers, then this game's discussions and support would dimish greatly, maybe then you'd get less people complaining about the game, or talking about it at all...
This is all speculative, ofc.
Also, any insults and accusations that are grounded in reality are justified, like saying Bo likes to plagiarize and Koda's word isn't worth anything because he's very irresponsible.
So you admit to cherry picking and think that it'd be bad if you WEREN'T doing it? You realize that term has a negative connotation, right?
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- May 5, 2018
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Drink literally anything else* instead.
And they should. Enough uptake would force prices down because the company would lose sales.
Which is why the monopoly comparison is faulty. They have no monopoly over anything.
- Jan 1, 2018
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Can we be positive thy were finally getting an update?
Sure the delays suck but let’s be thankful that it’s not abandoned.
Sure the delays suck but let’s be thankful that it’s not abandoned.
- May 5, 2018
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No, we need to make sure there's 10 more pages of complaints for everyone to read through. That'll show em
I flat out admit that I overreacted a bit unjustifiably but frankly speaking this countdown timer thing doesn't cut it at all. Everyone knows that there is no obligation to do this. The devs have every right to release updates at times of their own choosing. However that doesn't mean people won't get frustrated after half a year of recurrent holdups.
I won't go on justifying my outburst but there is a feeling that the point of constructive discussion is long past.
- Jun 17, 2018
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If you think the vast majority of people who really like grape soda in that example would just stop drinking it to show it to the crony capitalists, you must really not understand how markets work. What are you, an ancap or something?
And the monopoly comparison isn't faulty at all, some people go even further and say intellectual property itself is akin to a monopoly. If you can't see any similarities then there's something wrong with you.
Your attitude here even proves my point. You don't like seeing discussions about delays, but you still participate in them (even if you do so with sarcastic comments that do nothing but flood the board and attract the mods). You're just like the hypothetical grape soda lover who hates the grape soda company but will still give them money (even if every bill they use to pay for the grape soda has "FUCK YOU GRAPE SODA COMPANY" written in them, makes no difference).
Consumers don't act rationally and neither do you.
- Jan 5, 2019
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I just hope they nerf Sonya. All that damage off of 50/50s makes no sense.