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[Chillie_Willie]

Lizzie could be an interesting pawn in this stage of the game. She can change the fortunes or misery for either Dan or Lester. She offered her crypt warning earlier in the story the Williams didn’t heed so will she lend a sympathetic ear to Dan. Lester can dangle the proverbial carrot over her head with the cloud videos of the sexual liaisons especially their last one while Sarah watched (I’m sure poor Issac would hate to get a copy). Lester made his money selling the videos to Cronos, but hasn’t released their videos onto the web. I’m saying this because Lizzie isn’t traumatized for being recognized as internet famous yet. Besides Issac who knows, so she will do anything to avoid the videos from seeing the light of day. He could dangle even tempt Lizzie with a promise while it benefits from Lester. Have her physically destroy his command center to rid any evidence of his misdeeds in Chicago. Lizzie will finally get her “freedom” from Lester, but not being tech savvy about cloud computing unaware Lester has another computer ready.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

Don't get me wrong I think it's a good scenario. It opens possibilities for how the story develops; variety for the reading audience, the potential for Dan to consider an open marriage lifestyle, a catalyst for Sarah to make a choice or get revenge*, an opportunity for Dan to be even more humiliated, etc.

*Though revenge wouldn't be something she should have a right to - good for the goose, good for the gander and all. It is curious, I don't recall a mention of Sarah being jealous of Dan or hinting at it.

Not jealous of Dan maybe, but (and this admittedly is involving Lester) but has a great deal of jealousy involving Lizzie. In fact, Lester uses that jealousy to pull her closer to him, by making it look like Lester was still in contact with Lizzie. Because of that, seeing Lizzie fucking Dan, might be enough to really piss her off cuz Dan is still her man.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Not jealous of Dan maybe, but (and this admittedly is involving Lester) but has a great deal of jealousy involving Lizzie. In fact, Lester uses that jealousy to pull her closer to him, by making it look like Lester was still in contact with Lizzie. Because of that, seeing Lizzie fucking Dan, might be enough to really piss her off cuz Dan is still her man.

Great point Psiber, I'd forgotten that detail - Sarah claiming Lester's cock.

 

[Chillie_Willie]

What possible scenario may happen first?
1. Lizzie making her return appearance.
OR…
2. Byron and The Lincoln Group make their return after a brief hiatus
OR….
3. Another possible lowlife suitor getting a chance to rail Sarah

 

[Verisimilinude]

Yes.


How about initiating sex with him? How about kissing him when he's not fucking her? Expressing her attraction to him? Talking about their relationship? Not kicking him out or going to sleep immediately after sex?

Hey Adam - I want to be clear here. I know I can come across as blunt, my intent is one of objective analysis based on what's written. What I am not trying to do is attack or belittle anyone's thoughts, hopes, opinions. I may not always share your opinions but I do value them - without discussion it would be difficult for me to learn and grow.

 

[Sermex67]

Give a couple of weeks and you’ll know

 

[Verisimilinude]

What possible scenario may happen first?
1. Lizzie making her return appearance.
OR…
2. Byron and The Lincoln Group make their return after a brief hiatus
OR….
3. Another possible lowlife suitor getting a chance to rail Sarah

4. Vanilla Sarah/Lester Sex (maybe a new location) with some breadcrumbs about what's coming.

We've had two big reveals in Ch24/25, so if DS stays to his formula, this will be a mundane chapter. If Lester has any control over it there won't be anymore rando's railing Sarah, watching sure, but he doesn't want to share her. The one exception is being with a woman, because Lester hasn't pushed that boundary of Sarah's yet.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

What possible scenario may happen first?
1. Lizzie making her return appearance.
OR…
2. Byron and The Lincoln Group make their return after a brief hiatus
OR….
3. Another possible lowlife suitor getting a chance to rail Sarah

cannot say how against the last two I am...really harshly against that. Its time for Lester to go along with what he says to her...you are mine, I don't share. Make that the policy for a bit, making Sarah feel important to Lester, since she apparently is not that important to her husband. Also, Don has made a point in having every man (I believe this is the case) she interacts with have a larger cock than Dan, if even by a little. Lester should point this out when she struggles with calling Dan pathetic, or at least his penis size. Sarah should come, at some point, with the assistance of Lester that Dan hides her away from others because his insecurity about his small dick makes him covet and hide her. This has eventually begun his need to have those more worthy than him to fuck her with their cocks, like when Sarah first saw Lester nude and said that Dan had a dick, Lester had a COCK. She may love Dan, but should associate good sexual experiences with Lester, like she was when she said he did that more in such short period of time, as opposed to Dan who did nothing to broaden her horizons the entire time she has been with him.
And, btw, I looooved when she said that Dan pinching his nose was stupid and because he couldn't deal with things like Lester. Didn't she start out the story saying she though it was endearing when he did that?

 

[adamblack144]

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For the record Sarah has initiated sex with Lester, twice? Ch16 D&D Party, Ch22* After Otis leaves
*Correction Ch23

Chapter 16 wasnt her initiating. It was Lester's date night and she was going along with their established plan. Chapter 23 she initiated sex because she didn't get off after blowing him and Otis. I'm asking for her to pursue Lester for sex. She loves fucking him but she refuses to seduce him or arrange for it to happen. Or even acknowledge she likes fucking him except when they're having sex.

 

[Chillie_Willie]

It's an interesting scenario and one that could happen, the only wrinkle I see is that it's just not in Lester's nature to be that kind to Lizzie. And how could Lizzie trust him, he already burned her with the video drive in Ch5, by not giving her all the copies.

Chapter 16 wasnt her initiating. It was Lester's date night and she was going along with their established plan. Chapter 23 she initiated sex because she didn't get off after blowing him and Otis. I'm asking for her to pursue Lester for sex. She loves fucking him but she refuses to seduce him or arrange for it to happen. Or even acknowledge she likes fucking him except when they're having sex.

This is has always been my hangup with Don‘s two steps forward, three steps back approach to Toxic Attraction. Sarah and Lester’s relationship has not formed any bonds. Their relationship is so vanilla except in the bedroom. It’s awful we are 25 chapters in (unfortunately we don’t know how many more chapters Don had planned) and Sarah has yet initiate anything with Lester. No hugs or kisses, sex, lovemaking or even flirtatious sexting. Lester has to be the aggressor and Sarah goes along.

Until Don has Sarah come to a crossroad and finally decide this is relationship worth pursuing it will remain a fling and nothing more. Early in the story the progress of the affair had significant momentum with each chapter. However the momentum has shifting and each milestone is now measured glacially. This relationship doesn’t feel like a volcano tornado anymore. it’s awful we have to celebrate Sarah’s small victories when she overlooks or find endearing Lester’s faults versus Dan. Yippee. 25 chapters we should have significant progress than where we are currently. I hate to add more fluff but why not it can’t hurt. Now with Lester and Sarah in Middleton, Don needs to focus on a chapter with just them. Have Sarah show desire for Lester and initiate sex with him. Quit this endless loop of meaningless sex to prove Sarah is a slut. Everyone including her is convinced. Don made Sarah hurt the progress of this relationship when she responded to Dan after he inquired about the I love you to Lester. To her those words were just sex talk but you can take it further and say any word uttered by Sarah during sex meant little and was used to get herself off.

 

[adamblack144]

Yes. From chapter 6-13 there was serious development. From a blowjob, to sex, to making love in their bedroom. Then he had her say she loved him without prompting and then walked that back and now it's nowhere to be seen in the last 4 chapters.

What kind of relationship is this? She'll risk her job and suck off a janitor to please Lester but won't initiate sex with him? Why is she still fighting and reluctant everytime they fuck? Even in chapter 25 shes still playing hard to get and annoyed at him.

I really hope this next chapter is just Sarah and Lester. Don't bring Dan back to Middleton, don't include Otis or any other side character. Just have them being intimate and develop her disdain for Dan and love for Lester

 

[Loredanasmntt]

I kinda wish from this point going forward that Don keeps the story focused on Lester and Sarah as much as possible. I like darker endings so I kinda hope Sarah becomes pregnant and eventually Lester gets to steal her from Dan. Anyway, while we wait for ch26, does anyone have any latest work from antartica77 like my neighbot ch14? It would be really appreciated.

 

[Oresttitos]

Yes. From chapter 6-13 there was serious development. From a blowjob, to sex, to making love in their bedroom. Then he had her say she loved him without prompting and then walked that back and now it's nowhere to be seen in the last 4 chapters.

What kind of relationship is this? She'll risk her job and suck off a janitor to please Lester but won't initiate sex with him? Why is she still fighting and reluctant everytime they fuck? Even in chapter 25 shes still playing hard to get and annoyed at him.

I really hope this next chapter is just Sarah and Lester. Don't bring Dan back to Middleton, don't include Otis or any other side character. Just have them being intimate and develop her disdain for Dan and love for Lester

I completely agree with you in your idea of the relationship between Sara and Lester and I'm sure that most readers want it, but wondering: And what's next?
This will lead to the end of the story, because having created a couple from Sarah and Lester, it remains only to decide what to do with Dan: a complete cuckold or divorce/moral humiliation and destruction of him as a person.
It will be possible to add a few hot sex scenes, but it will not bring the spark/spiciness of a forbidden relationship.
Do we want the end of the story? Is it financially beneficial for DS? Of course, these are good questions to which we will get answers over time.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

This is has always been my hangup with Don‘s two steps forward, three steps back approach to Toxic Attraction. Sarah and Lester’s relationship has not formed any bonds. Their relationship is so vanilla except in the bedroom. It’s awful we are 25 chapters in (unfortunately we don’t know how many more chapters Don had planned) and Sarah has yet initiate anything with Lester. No hugs or kisses, sex, lovemaking or even flirtatious sexting. Lester has to be the aggressor and Sarah goes along.

Until Don has Sarah come to a crossroad and finally decide this is relationship worth pursuing it will remain a fling and nothing more. Early in the story the progress of the affair had significant momentum with each chapter. However the momentum has shifting and each milestone is now measured glacially. This relationship doesn’t feel like a volcano tornado anymore. it’s awful we have to celebrate Sarah’s small victories when she overlooks or find endearing Lester’s faults versus Dan. Yippee. 25 chapters we should have significant progress than where we are currently. I hate to add more fluff but why not it can’t hurt. Now with Lester and Sarah in Middleton, Don needs to focus on a chapter with just them. Have Sarah show desire for Lester and initiate sex with him. Quit this endless loop of meaningless sex to prove Sarah is a slut. Everyone including her is convinced. Don made Sarah hurt the progress of this relationship when she responded to Dan after he inquired about the I love you to Lester. To her those words were just sex talk but you can take it further and say any word uttered by Sarah during sex meant little and was used to get herself off.

It also gives her the out of anything "I say is just sex talk." In this world, eventually something you say during sex is meant or taken at surface value. Not everything that happens during sex can possibly be for getting off, or there is nothing that Sarah will ever say that can be trusted, especially something she repeats while not in coitus that she said while in it. Every time she says I live you to Dan doesn't mean anything because she said it before, during sex.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

I completely agree with you in your idea of the relationship between Sara and Lester and I'm sure that most readers want it, but wondering: And what's next?
This will lead to the end of the story, because having created a couple from Sarah and Lester, it remains only to decide what to do with Dan: a complete cuckold or divorce/moral humiliation and destruction of him as a person.
It will be possible to add a few hot sex scenes, but it will not bring the spark/spiciness of a forbidden relationship.
Do we want the end of the story? Is it financially beneficial for DS? Of course, these are good questions to which we will get answers over time.

You know, I will argue that ending this story is financially beneficial for Don. He has already released two groupings of chapters on Amazon, for sale as digital books, however the length of one story will end up being too taxing on people. Stephen King is successful because he finishes one book and then write another story and then another and another. People wouldn't continue to read him if most of what he wrote was about the same people/story. He even, eventually had his writing leave castle rock, maine as he had pumped enough out of that little fictional town. If your writing is good enough it will sustain multiple stories. Some may be sections of the Green Mile and some might be The Stand, so lengths vary, but eventually you have to be able to move on to the next story and then readers will follow. Readers follow and the money will continue. Basically readers become fans and fans = revenue.

 

[adamblack144]

Yeah DS can definitely end this story in 10-15 chapters and start again. He's a good writer and should trust himself to do it again. Id keep reading. As i said earlier, he writes the best sex scenes I've ever read.

 

[GGCaesar]

Probably I am the only one not seeing any reason for Lester and Sarah to proceed further than sex and sex talk.

Sarah is basically a forty something mom which has discovered that she likes sex much more than she has probably thought. She is beginning to blame Dan for his inability to exit from a financial situation which is haunting their family and the kink of Dan exploited by Lester was simply the worst thing in the worst place.

Lester is for sure someone who can satisfy her at level she has never imagined. This does not mean that she is going to develope feelings for him.

She could drop Dan for some other Beta-provider for sure(she is hot yet and perfectly able to find some “fish”), simply not for Lester. He is not a Beta provider neither a alpha man. He hasn’t the “physique du role“ for it and most of all doesn’t lead men.

He is a man who is able to exploit the situations that come to him.

He cannot reproduce with someone like Sarah under normal circumstances neither can be a long term couple, He can reproduce, with the genes distance, only if he is able to exploit the events.

This is why I think any development in feelings is not necessary and probably inconsistent with the story.

PS. People like Lester which are basically lonely and haven’t a social circle of people that are led by them(in broad daylight I mean), in the end are going to get caught in their manipulation and lose. DS can allow a different stories here due to paying people but it would be an unrealistic end.

 

[Em Lear]

Anyone got Santas sack story?

 

[Em Lear]

Y'all talk too much, the links are never found. Just create a different page or thread for links pls

 

[Chillie_Willie]

Anyone got Santas sack story?

If you are referring to Santa’s sack by Don, it’s nothing new. Don posted a collection of digital files he got behind on for fans: Detestable Liaisons chapter 5 and Toxic Attraction chapter 15-23.