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[Verisimilinude]

...oh? please clarify?

Psiber's written stories for Literotica, you can check his forum posts for the link.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

...oh? please clarify?

About 13 years ago I started a story that I had in my mind and could find nothing like it online. A mother's kid was bullied, originally she goes to the hospital worried about him when she was called to come because her son had a broken arm from an accident. She tried to ask her son what happened, he would not answer so she followed him to school and saw bully shove him into the gutter, breaking the cast and most likely fracturing the arm again. Problem was...she is a latent sadist who had to seek help in the past but gets into it with the bully and they (I suppose cucked her son, but I never got into that angle) start bulllying him together. Its called Bully gets Wimp's Mom and the first two chapters are still up on Lit. as times had not caught up with the idea of even studying this kind of behavior as a psychological abnormality which takes over the Mom. So, some of it was removed (fantasy sequences within dreams an everything in the story is with adults, no kids). So far, in tat time I have had roughly 800,000 views and have been starting to work on some other things in the genre and trying again. One of which came from DS himself, when he threw some ides out there and I asked for him to allow me to do the one which I have now "affectionately" titled Bully Island.

 

[Ndbaelor]

Another idea for DS: have Lester ignore Sarah at work and play hard to get. Sarah will get frustrated and increase her attraction and seduction of him. Lester is no longer desperate. Make Sarah work for it

I could see some version of this happening. Sarah did mention that Lester has been complete professional at work, which could be a hint. Other angle is Lester having a hard time at hospital (thanks to Richard & Mary) so genuinely couldn't pay more attention to Sarah.

 

[Ndbaelor]

You did forget one possible ending of where Lester is redeemed or changes from the despicable person who they met in Ch1. via Sarah's influence. Don't get me wrong he's currently still a selfish prick, but I can see small changes already in how the story has been written. Since Psiber invoked the Darth Vader reference - even Anakin was redeemed in the end.

That's an interesting thought. Everybody gets corrupted to Lester's level in this story but I never thought Lester's corruption will not be more depravity but the other way: him going 'nice' which could ultimately lead his downfall

 

[Ndbaelor]

One of which came from DS himself, when he threw some ides out there and I asked for him to allow me to do the one which I have now "affectionately" titled Bully Island.

Does the bully own the island or is it an island of bullies? The second one is just Australia,mate!

But seriously, deserted Island is another saturated genre that I'm fond of. It seems to me most of the authors concentrate on the people deserted that they miss the most important character: the island itself. I'm tired of generic tropical island with unlimited food and water. One don't have to go full "Lost" with the backstory but atleast make it something like Socotra Island where it's been secluded long enough it developed its own biodiversity (imagine them encountering rare aphrodisiac fruit, a bird that can mimic notices the bully jerking off to mom and mimics his moaning her name everytime it sees him) Or like Easter islands with full of ruins and drawings from a tribe that left the place for reasons. If the mom character is an academic, this will make her interested in the island more than getting out and the bully to rely more on her despite his hatred as she understand the island more. Add a predator like komodo dragon, make the resources limited to add a ticking clock, anything other than them immediately building a treehouse and starts fucking. Just some suggestions. Anyways, Good luck with your writing, mate!

 

[powerconti]

Dan isn’t interesting because it’s been written that way the writer wants you to empathise with the fat bloke not the husband it’s why 90% of people want lester and Sarah to be together, although I still don’t think that’s happening myself, at the end if Dan was a dick I’d agree but he isn’t he just a genuine guy who wants the best for his family unlike someone who wants to destroy one for he’s own means.

I agree with you.
Because Dan is not corrupt, nor is he deceitful or criminal.
He has left his town and his neighbourhood for the good of his family - so that they don't lose their house, so that the family's standard of living doesn't fall - to seek new professional challenges.
I see Dan as a caring family man who, contrary to the prevailing opinion, sacrifices himself for the good of his family. He has put his own well-being, his own desires and pleasures in the background.
According to the motto ‘family first’.

Most of the comments are hymns of praise to the EGO, because Lester is the personalised EGO.
He is also seen as a hero, and many even feel he should achieve a status that makes him untouchable, with a licence to corrupt, criminalise and scheme.
The author has mapped out this path, and the following follows him without ifs and buts.

Dan is the antithesis of Lester, because he is not an I-man like Lester, but a WE-man.
He is seen and portrayed as a failure, a loser, a good-for-nothing and, above all, stupid, because he prefers to be a WE-man and lives and fights accordingly.
His only fault is that he tends to share his wife (if she wants too!) with men who are chosen together, and that he has an average penis and no ponytail.

 

[Verisimilinude]

He is seen and portrayed as a failure, a loser, a good-for-nothing and, above all, stupid, because he prefers to be a WE-man and lives and fights accordingly.
His only fault is that he tends to share his wife (if she wants too!) with men who are chosen together, and that he has an average penis and no ponytail.

Contrary to what you've said, I don't think he's a failure, a loser, a good-for-nothing and he isn't stupid - techno-challenged yes, but not stupid. However he absolutely isn't a WE-man. One could make the argument he's more corrupt than Lester - at least Lester doesn't hide what he wants. Dan and Sarah are in this situation because of Dan's fantasy, and bc Sarah is (at the beginning) a loving wife who would do anything for him.

There are two reasons Dan's character is portrayed this way: the obvious one is if his character had been written as an upstanding family man, the story would have been over after the first chapter. But within the story he's a flawed human, just like everyone else in this story - he tempted fate bc of his desire to see his wife with another man and now he's paying the butcher's bill.

Now the real question is will Dan finally learn his lesson and earn redemption. Time (and 30 more chapters lol) will tell.

 

[Verisimilinude]

That's an interesting thought. Everybody gets corrupted to Lester's level in this story but I never thought Lester's corruption will not be more depravity but the other way: him going 'nice' which could ultimately lead his downfall

Yeah I don't think it will happen - doesn't seem to fit a dark ending. But it would be interesting if he actually fell in love with Sarah and then made a mistake allowing her to see him for the monster he is. On second thought that would be a dark ending for Lester's character - he had everything and lost it thru his own actions.

 

[Verisimilinude]

I'm curious what do others think Sarah's hard line in the sand would be, like what would snap her out of Lester's control and make her give it up? (Beyond the obvious one of her children being threatened.)

I'm leaning towards if she finds out about all the video of her, but especially of other women.

 

[Ndbaelor]

I'm curious what do others think Sarah's hard line in the sand would be, like what would snap her out of Lester's control and make her give it up? (Beyond the obvious one of her children being threatened.)

I'm leaning towards if she finds out about all the video of her, but especially of other women.

Someone's life in danger maybe. She seemed horrified by patient's life in jeopardy when she heard about Lester potentially hacking the hospital.
There is no evidence so far that Lester is capable of taking a life, but who knows, his obsession of Sarah might push him over the edge.

 

[Ndbaelor]

You know this is the mystery that vexes me the most - What does DS mean by a dark ending?

This reminds me of the discussion with friends if the ending of nosferatu

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is happy ending or tragic!!

Another cuckold movie that had similar ending is 1977 movie Dangerous Cargo. This was dead calm before dead calm and the lead Deborah Shelton was a stunner (not a good actress though)

 

[Ndbaelor]

The next alpha could drop anytime soon, so let me get my fanfictions out before it's too late.We all are asking the question what is next for Sarah and Lester's relationship. Sexually, it seems like there on a speed run with nothing stoping them so I was thinking what is the next boundary for them to cross emotionally.

Right now the arrangement is Dan owes Lester rent and Sarah pays him by going on a date with him whenever she comes to Chicago. How about for the next rent payment, Lester asks for a date with Sarah, a proper outside date with Sarah, in MIDDLETON. Why does Lester have to go all the way to Chicago to collect payment, when the cookie jar is right here? (Dan could think the whole carpool ride back and forth is also more opportunity for Lester to get between her and her dress). And for Sarah, the idea of going out with Lester at her turf, where they could get seen by her friends, neighbors, colleagues, PTA folks and possibly getting away with it might thrill her. It could also be a test run for Lester moving in with them. This may not happen, but I think Lester would certainly try.

I would also like to see Lester slowly introduce her to some of his shenanigans. I don't think we have seen her being the peeping tom a lot. Maybe this will be a great way to prep her when stuff about him gets to light. For example, last time he had sex at Dan and Sarah's marital bed, he literally got beaten up, a bad memory for him. How about he rectify that memory by going for round two, but this time he gets away with it thanks to his cameras and other spying devices and little help from Sarah. Imagine a semi naked Sarah sitting on Lester's lap in Dan's office room, her eyes fixed on the computer screen and his hands fixed on her body, with him whispering into her ear how to open his locked computer. Imagine Dan driving on the highway while Lester and Sarah on proneboning on his bed, watching his dashcam live. Imagine Sarah listening to Dan bitching about Lester in the kitchen with her phone camera on, while Lester hiding in the basement looking at the footage. I could see her enjoy being on the other side of peephole and more thrilled about getting away with something.

Speaking of creating some memories and tainting others, what if Lester was able to isolate Sarah during a special day in her life (wedding anniversary or even her birthday) and make her spend time with him instead. Christmas and Thanksgiving are out as she won't leave her children. Ngl the idea of Lester/someone gets to finally impregnating her on her birthday makes me hot.

 

[Verisimilinude]

I could see her enjoy being on the other side of peephole and more thrilled about getting away with something.

Do you think Sarah would be willing to "share" Dan with other women?

 

[Verisimilinude]

This reminds me of the discussion with friends if the ending of nosferatu

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is happy ending or tragic!!

Another cuckold movie that had similar ending is 1977 movie Dangerous Cargo. This was dead calm before dead calm and the lead Deborah Shelton was a stunner (not a good actress though)

I guess maybe I'm fixated on dark, when I should be asking/curious about what are the consequences the trio will face. Do all of them "lose" in the end, do they all pay a terrible price for their forbidden desires.

 

[adamblack144]

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The next alpha could drop anytime soon, so let me get my fanfictions out before it's too late.We all are asking the question what is next for Sarah and Lester's relationship. Sexually, it seems like there on a speed run with nothing stoping them so I was thinking what is the next boundary for them to cross emotionally.

Right now the arrangement is Dan owes Lester rent and Sarah pays him by going on a date with him whenever she comes to Chicago. How about for the next rent payment, Lester asks for a date with Sarah, a proper outside date with Sarah, in MIDDLETON. Why does Lester have to go all the way to Chicago to collect payment, when the cookie jar is right here? (Dan could think the whole carpool ride back and forth is also more opportunity for Lester to get between her and her dress). And for Sarah, the idea of going out with Lester at her turf, where they could get seen by her friends, neighbors, colleagues, PTA folks and possibly getting away with it might thrill her. It could also be a test run for Lester moving in with them. This may not happen, but I think Lester would certainly try.

I would also like to see Lester slowly introduce her to some of his shenanigans. I don't think we have seen her being the peeping tom a lot. Maybe this will be a great way to prep her when stuff about him gets to light. For example, last time he had sex at Dan and Sarah's marital bed, he literally got beaten up, a bad memory for him. How about he rectify that memory by going for round two, but this time he gets away with it thanks to his cameras and other spying devices and little help from Sarah. Imagine a semi naked Sarah sitting on Lester's lap in Dan's office room, her eyes fixed on the computer screen and his hands fixed on her body, with him whispering into her ear how to open his locked computer. Imagine Dan driving on the highway while Lester and Sarah on proneboning on his bed, watching his dashcam live. Imagine Sarah listening to Dan bitching about Lester in the kitchen with her phone camera on, while Lester hiding in the basement looking at the footage. I could see her enjoy being on the other side of peephole and more thrilled about getting away with something.

Speaking of creating some memories and tainting others, what if Lester was able to isolate Sarah during a special day in her life (wedding anniversary or even her birthday) and make her spend time with him instead. Christmas and Thanksgiving are out as she won't leave her children. Ngl the idea of Lester/someone gets to finally impregnating her on her birthday makes me hot.

Love that idea. Although Lester would have to trust Sarah to let her in on his whole set up. She'd need to show more submission and connection to not just immediately tell Dan. But this is the direction I hope we're headed for. Where Sarah gets off not just to Lester's dick but to his twisted mind. She needs to find pleasure in helping Lester and boosting his ego. Ultimately she needs to choose Lester over her husband

 

[Chillie_Willie]

I agree with you.
Because Dan is not corrupt, nor is he deceitful or criminal.
He has left his town and his neighbourhood for the good of his family - so that they don't lose their house, so that the family's standard of living doesn't fall - to seek new professional challenges.
I see Dan as a caring family man who, contrary to the prevailing opinion, sacrifices himself for the good of his family. He has put his own well-being, his own desires and pleasures in the background.
According to the motto ‘family first’.

Most of the comments are hymns of praise to the EGO, because Lester is the personalised EGO.
He is also seen as a hero, and many even feel he should achieve a status that makes him untouchable, with a licence to corrupt, criminalise and scheme.
The author has mapped out this path, and the following follows him without ifs and buts.

Dan is the antithesis of Lester, because he is not an I-man like Lester, but a WE-man.
He is seen and portrayed as a failure, a loser, a good-for-nothing and, above all, stupid, because he prefers to be a WE-man and lives and fights accordingly.
His only fault is that he tends to share his wife (if she wants too!) with men who are chosen together, and that he has an average penis and no ponytail.

In fantasy land sure, but in reality I would pump the brakes calling Dan a caring family man. Any evidence presented has been weak in my book. Obvious one: tell me one parent who doesn’t brag about their kids to anyone including Lester? I have not seen one evidence of Lester being sick and tired of Dan bragging about his girls or on FaceTime/Skype with them regarding their day or schoolwork. Where is the photo of the kids at the apartment? The only photo is of Sarah which Eugene didn’t notice. Because of course the story wouldn’t be sexy.

You have to ask what is the underlying reason Dan would chose Chicago over finding one or multiple jobs in Middleton to keep his family together. How are they saving money by paying out additional rent, utilities, food, and moving/travel expenses on top of their current Middleton expenses? It’s all about the man bringing in the income however no amount of income will fully offset the financial and emotional burdens. This antiquated parenting model regarding the father may work for some circumstances, but wouldn’t apply to this application. Dan doesn’t work a position like a roughneck on the Alaskan oil fields or fisherman on the Bering Straits. Dan’s job is physically close to home. Why couldn’t Dan and Sarah keep the family together or at the very least negotiated a moving package with Walt before accepting a job in Chicago. All this makes Dan sound weak. As a recently hired worker for an out of state company. I negotiated a moving package as part of my acceptance even though I had no leverage. I took a pay cut at my new job, but it didn’t deter me from moving my family with me. My world would not be complete without my family there.
Lastly, why hasn’t Dan insisted the girls come to Chicago with Sarah for a visit? Why is always just Sarah coming and occasionally Dan going home on weekends. This seems more like a
Unless Don is conditioning us to see Dan as a divorced dad scenario where he pays monthly child support and alimony while picking up the kids every other weekend , shared holidays and school breaks.

 

[Chillie_Willie]

Do you think Sarah would be willing to "share" Dan with other women?

As Sarah becomes more corrupted by Lester any aspects she use to find cute about Dan will continue to dissipate until she doesn’t care about Dan. Sarah is deriving her pleasures from Lester and his cock not by her weak and pathetic husband. She wants a strong man and Lester is a strong man in her eyes

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

As Sarah becomes more corrupted by Lester any aspects she use to find cute about Dan will continue to dissipate until she doesn’t care about Dan. Sarah is deriving her pleasures from Lester and his cock not by her weak and pathetic husband. She wants a strong man and Lester is a strong man in her eyes

Don't forget his strong cock, that Lester throws into their sex talk as well. I still am not sure what I think about that term, strong cock. I get images of his penis holding barbells and doing a Jack Lelane workout. But can his dick pull a boat on its birthday like Jack Lelane did every year?

 

[Verisimilinude]

Don't forget his strong cock, that Lester throws into their sex talk as well. I still am not sure what I think about that term, strong cock. I get images of his penis holding barbells and doing a Jack Lelane workout. But can his dick pull a boat on its birthday like Jack Lelane did every year?

SO a Prince Albert with barbells you say

 

[Sermex67]

In fantasy land sure, but in reality I would pump the brakes calling Dan a caring family man. Any evidence presented has been weak in my book. Obvious one: tell me one parent who doesn’t brag about their kids to anyone including Lester? I have not seen one evidence of Lester being sick and tired of Dan bragging about his girls or on FaceTime/Skype with them regarding their day or schoolwork. Where is the photo of the kids at the apartment? The only photo is of Sarah which Eugene didn’t notice. Because of course the story wouldn’t be sexy.

You have to ask what is the underlying reason Dan would chose Chicago over finding one or multiple jobs in Middleton to keep his family together. How are they saving money by paying out additional rent, utilities, food, and moving/travel expenses on top of their current Middleton expenses? It’s all about the man bringing in the income however no amount of income will fully offset the financial and emotional burdens. This antiquated parenting model regarding the father may work for some circumstances, but wouldn’t apply to this application. Dan doesn’t work a position like a roughneck on the Alaskan oil fields or fisherman on the Bering Straits. Dan’s job is physically close to home. Why couldn’t Dan and Sarah keep the family together or at the very least negotiated a moving package with Walt before accepting a job in Chicago. All this makes Dan sound weak. As a recently hired worker for an out of state company. I negotiated a moving package as part of my acceptance even though I had no leverage. I took a pay cut at my new job, but it didn’t deter me from moving my family with me. My world would not be complete without my family there.
Lastly, why hasn’t Dan insisted the girls come to Chicago with Sarah for a visit? Why is always just Sarah coming and occasionally Dan going home on weekends. This seems more like a
Unless Don is conditioning us to see Dan as a divorced dad scenario where he pays monthly child support and alimony while picking up the kids every other weekend , shared holidays and school breaks.

Dan is a fictional character created by Don he cant impact or act on anything unless Don writes it that way.