Toxic Attraction DonSilver #Cuckold 8muses forum

[Verisimilinude]

Agree it's turned into cheap cuck porn, drama is long gone, think I am through with it now

With respect, I think you may have missed the fact it's been a cuck story since the 1st chapter. Dan's been fighting it the whole time but he's always been a reluctant cuck.

 

[Verisimilinude]

So did I miss something? I thought DS said he was going to make a significant change. I only saw a paragraph or two that were slightly different and the cleaned up typos.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Comparing this forum 15 chapters ago to now is depressing. A week before and after the chapters dropped there was intense discussion about every detail. Debates about plot points, predictions etc.
Now it's dead. 3/4 is just requests for other stories. DS has killed our dreams

True, but I think part of the cause is reader fatigue and partly readers bouncing bc it's not the story they were hoping it would be. As for me, I've been focused on paying the rent and writing my own stuff. I just haven't had as much time to dedicate to opinions and analysis.

Then there's the elephant in the room - this last chapter was depressing. All the long term members know I've never been a Dan fan, but fuck, even I can see he is currently a pubic hair away from going postal.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Never really taught about it that way, guess like most people just know what I don't like. But I'll think about, I know most stories were they split always has the husband living a great life and the wife end up in the toilet. I don't like them because it's so far from the truth about how shit really plays out. I don't like the humiliation or were the husband is shown to be pathetic and weak. Even a weak man has a voice, another thing that about 75% of series on Lit it's always the wife will cheat with no being caught. I like it when at the end of the story it's not some vague weird open endings.i like it when the husband's opinion counts, but I don't like it when the husband is just open and so excited to see his wife getting beat in the sheats. I like it when he is written to be able to say hay this is goin to far or that they need to ease up a little. When their made out to just be super happy with what ever is goin on no matter what. Like I don't see how letting some dude and your wife kicking you out of your bedroom and sending you to the guest room would bode well for a marriage. I've never been a fan of the husband setting wife up with his best friend, that just seems stupid and just sets your self up for problems. If I think of some more shit I'll mess you. Just took a break from work if my new shop, mine burned down at the end of May. They got done Friday marnin building the new one. Trying to get my new shit in this one, happy to get all the stuff I've been storing in house out. Finally got my closet back, new tool set and new welder has been taking half of it up and it seems like every shirt I want is always behind them.

So to clarify:
- No humiliation
- Stable to strong willed husband (meaning not weak/pathetic/wimp)
- Husband has agency and a voice
- Wasn't sure about this one (so you want the husband to be the cheater?)
- And no Friend sex partner

Would that be accurate? If so sounds like you want a trad sharing story, or maybe a kinky couple that keeps it all between the two of them.

 

[powerconti]

After these vehement and clearly articulated justifications, I get the feeling that our friend ‘Verisimilinude’ is the so-called ‘phantom writer’.
Who knows !?!

-- PC

 

[powerconti]

When I was very young, I studied psychology for two semesters. When I look at the comments, statements and reactions of participants on this and other portals and compare them with my own experiences and insights, I come to the conclusion that, for the most part, they also reflect people's personalities in real life.

The filthy, disgusting ‘Lester’ says hello while being praised by another dog in heat, ‘Sarah’ ...

-- PC

 

[DarkStutzel]

I really didn't see anything different. The story lost a bit of focus, and I can't quite understand the passage of time. We're in the part of the story where Dan's destruction takes place. Not every woman is a queen of size. Dan can find another woman (Dan, after this destruction, might want to seek help). He's the father of two girls, and using the girls' room is bound to generate anger and a fight between the couple. There have to be some consequences; there will come a time when, just like Celebrimbor broke Sauron's spell, Dan will succeed. If Celebrimbor lost the city, Dan lost his marriage, and divorce is coming (Dan didn't want to share his wife; the guy at his work favored Lester and turned everything into Chaos). I hope Sarah goes shopping and buys Lester clothes, helps Lester become a little more hygienic. And I hope for a chapter with Dan and the Sentinel employee.

 

[Davidsays1]

For me it's just the story going nowhere. Dan being annoying.

I really didn't see anything different. The story lost a bit of focus, and I can't quite understand the passage of time. We're in the part of the story where Dan's destruction takes place. Not every woman is a queen of size. Dan can find another woman (Dan, after this destruction, might want to seek help). He's the father of two girls, and using the girls' room is bound to generate anger and a fight between the couple. There have to be some consequences; there will come a time when, just like Celebrimbor broke Sauron's spell, Dan will succeed. If Celebrimbor lost the city, Dan lost his marriage, and divorce is coming (Dan didn't want to share his wife; the guy at his work favored Lester and turned everything into Chaos). I hope Sarah goes shopping and buys Lester clothes, helps Lester become a little more hygienic. And I hope for a chapter with Dan and the Sentinel employee.

I've said it repeatedly Don has mentioned multiple times Lester looks like he's going to have a heart attack, that has to be the payoff Sarah gets pregnant loses Dan and the kids, and Lester dies. Or gets arrested.

 

[adamblack144]

Can we get some public scenes with Sarah and Lester? Chapter 16 where she pretends to be his gf was one of the best. Now that she actually is, id like to see more. Have them go shopping. Have them go to the pools/beach. Have her act jealous in front of other women when Lester's eye wanders.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

I didn't mind it, but I like dark. Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars film, to me, by miles and miles. This is mostly due to the idea that the empire wins this one and Darth really fucks Luke's mind up.

Basically, though, the finished version is not too much different from the Alpha, as only cosmetic changes were applied. It reads cleaner now and several sections that just repeated what had already happened in the chapter were eliminated. I am glad that he lengthened the area where Lester tells Dan that now he has completely reversed the time he was humiliated by Dan and Sarah. I completely forgot about that, so now it makes sense here. Don realized that everyone doesn't have a perfect memory, especially since he never mentioned it again.

 

[Verisimilinude]

After these vehement and clearly articulated justifications, I get the feeling that our friend ‘Verisimilinude’ is the so-called ‘phantom writer’.
Who knows !?!

-- PC

Why thank you PC, for the kind words about by writing capabilities. Sadly my bank account doesn't support your theory of me being a ghost writer for DS. Not that I'd want to be anyway; I prefer to write my own stories and make my own mistakes.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Can we get some public scenes with Sarah and Lester? Chapter 16 where she pretends to be his gf was one of the best. Now that she actually is, id like to see more. Have them go shopping. Have them go to the pools/beach. Have her act jealous in front of other women when Lester's eye wanders.

I do think you'll have to wait on this for a bit. It reads as if this is going to be the new corruption goal of the series; Sarah accepting Lester as a person, not a sex toy (paired with Sarah accepting she wants to have Lester's progeny). In order for that to happen, Lester will have to convert Renee. Once Sarah's parents accept him "publicly" then it will be easier for Sarah to accept it.

 

[DarkStutzel]

Sarah is already won over. You earned 250,000 in this hospital job... Lester took what he needed, the family's financial responsibility. He provides the family with the security they need and has the tools Sarah needs. The Sentinel woman earns more than Dan, she doesn't need this financial security; it's more solid. I wish they'd give the series more reality (Sarah is the queen of size - genetics. Pop star Lena, when filming with Jason, reported needing four days to recover). Lester could cheat on Sarah and make her unintentionally sign documents agreeing to give the girls to Dan in the divorce. Dan, along with the Sentinel woman, could steal Lester's cryptocurrency. Lester could have a heart attack after getting Renee and Sarah pregnant and find himself penniless.

 

[bluepixiegurl316]

I do think you'll have to wait on this for a bit. It reads as if this is going to be the new corruption goal of the series; Sarah accepting Lester as a person, not a sex toy (paired with Sarah accepting she wants to have Lester's progeny). In order for that to happen, Lester will have to convert Renee. Once Sarah's parents accept him "publicly" then it will be easier for Sarah to accept it.

Except he's a slob and if she actually likes him then the trash took itself out and the ntr aspect is sort of moot.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Except he's a slob and if she actually likes him then the trash took itself out and the ntr aspect is sort of moot.

Valid points and I see I didn't articulate well. I meant "accepting Lester as a person, "as well" as a sex toy." Certainly not saying I'm correct, but DS spent a portion of this chapter and chapters leading up to it, telling us how Sarah was beginning to accept him, despite the disgust she should have for his appearance, hygiene, etc.

 

[bluepixiegurl316]

Valid points and I see I didn't articulate well. I meant "accepting Lester as a person, "as well" as a sex toy." Certainly not saying I'm correct, but DS spent a portion of this chapter and chapters leading up to it, telling us how Sarah was beginning to accept him, despite the disgust she should have for his appearance, hygiene, etc.

I understand. Just would be a sad sad character point. Like, you would have to have some crazy trauma or mental disorder to throw your kids away for a slob. Wouldn't make sense for her to just develop it because he's good at fucking. It's why I like ugly bastards with a heart of....silver lol. They can win the woman over and actually not suck. They might even improve as a person and the heartbreak of the MC feels more real. Yeah, he's not a better man...he's a better person, at least for her.

 

[Fokker1917]

No PC, I would simply point out that's what was written.

"Is that...Is that really something you would consider, though?
Something you would actually do?" he asked, matching her seriousness.
That wasn't just banter anymore. It was a real, honest question.
Without hesitation, Sarah answered her husband.
"Dan, I would do anything for you."


Sarah didn't need Dan's permission for anything, she's not his property nor his slave. However I will say that she did owe him her respect and trust, but since it's what he said he wanted and he didn't voice his disapproval, then he got what he asked for.

Property or slave? Yeesh. That logic is crazy. Imagine someones wife saying "I am going to fuck the neighbor. I am not your Property or your slave" Guys, the world is full of women. You don't have to put up with this. You can't share your burdens don't let other usurp your joy.

No PC, I would simply point out that's what was written.

"Is that...Is that really something you would consider, though?
Something you would actually do?" he asked, matching her seriousness.
That wasn't just banter anymore. It was a real, honest question.
Without hesitation, Sarah answered her husband.
"Dan, I would do anything for you."


Sarah didn't need Dan's permission for anything, she's not his property nor his slave. However I will say that she did owe him her respect and trust, but since it's what he said he wanted and he didn't voice his disapproval, then he got what he asked for.

"Property or slave? That’s a wild leap. Imagine your spouse saying, 'I’m going to sleep with the neighbor because I’m not your property or slave.' Gentlemen, the world is full of women. You don’t have to tolerate this kind of behavior. Don’t let someone else’s actions rob you of your joy or burden you with their choices."

 

[DarkStutzel]

I understand. Just would be a sad sad character point. Like, you would have to have some crazy trauma or mental disorder to throw your kids away for a slob. Wouldn't make sense for her to just develop it because he's good at fucking. It's why I like ugly bastards with a heart of....silver lol. They can win the woman over and actually not suck. They might even improve as a person and the heartbreak of the MC feels more real. Yeah, he's not a better man...he's a better person, at least for her.

She's trading him for a slob with a lot of money, and she likes to have a good financial standard. The world is capitalist, she won't leave her children in a shelter, she'll give custody to the father, she'll be able to visit her daughters (weekend mom), and she'll have the financial security to help if needed. Let's see if Lester will work on his appearance a little. I hope there will be fights in the marriage, especially regarding Lester using the children's bed for sex.

 

[Davidsays1]

She's trading him for a slob with a lot of money, and she likes to have a good financial standard. The world is capitalist, she won't leave her children in a shelter, she'll give custody to the father, she'll be able to visit her daughters (weekend mom), and she'll have the financial security to help if needed. Let's see if Lester will work on his appearance a little. I hope there will be fights in the marriage, especially regarding Lester using the children's bed for sex.

Where the story is headed I don't think Sarah or her parents will be allowed to see the kids at all Dan will end up with full custody.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Property or slave? Yeesh. That logic is crazy. Imagine someones wife saying "I am going to fuck the neighbor. I am not your Property or your slave" Guys, the world is full of women. You don't have to put up with this. You can't share your burdens don't let other usurp your joy.

"Property or slave? That’s a wild leap. Imagine your spouse saying, 'I’m going to sleep with the neighbor because I’m not your property or slave.' Gentlemen, the world is full of women. You don’t have to tolerate this kind of behavior. Don’t let someone else’s actions rob you of your joy or burden you with their choices."

Crazy logic and a wild leap, hmmm, that's an interesting viewpoint. I can't speak for you, but I live in a world where every person has a right to agency over their own body and decisions. Being married doesn't change that fact. Marriage isn't about owning your spouse or telling them what is "permissible" or what isn't. It's about sacrifice and compromise, because you have love and respect for one another and a sincere desire to live that life together as equals.

But that's the real world, my discussion was about this particular story. This story started as a loving couple whose husband wanted to dabble in something kinky. Dan asked her to be daring and naughty, Sarah wasn't really into it but she wanted to make him happy. Once Sarah tasted the forbidden fruit and knowing it turned Dan on, made decisions to keep pushing the envelope. And Dan was there every step of the way, he had opportunities to say "I think you've gone too far Sarah. I'd like us to stop" or "I think we should communicate Sarah, this isn't heading in a direction I like" but did he do that? No he sat back and got a chubby watching Sarah fall deeper into his and eventually their shared fantasy. Sure he made half-hearted appeals, and talked around the subject that was bothering him, but he didn't communicate.

On the flip side, Sarah's no saint, she saw the signs even if she didn't want to admit it. She got a taste of great sex and manipulated Dan on a few occasions and omitted things bc deep down she knew it was wrong and that if she told Dan, he might have actually said "I want to stop." However you do have to consider the fact that she's been groomed from the beginning by Lester, psychologically programmed over a long period of time to crave what Lester is dishing out. That doesn't make her actions excusable, but it does provide a basis of why she isn't thinking straight.

If anything this is a cautionary tale of being careful what you wish for because you are going to get burned. Fortunately I don't conflate fiction with my reality, I don't project/insert myself into any of the characters, I read the facts as written and offer my opinions and analysis of the fiction. I only broaden my views when others try to kink shame someone or tell others how they should feel, think or believe. I'm not perfect but I do try to keep my opinions objective.

As to your question my answer would be "don't let the door hit you on the way out."