HornyHorse69
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Everyone is up for a discussion but your are here to write the whole fuckin constitution.....Oh god, if only there wasn't discussion on a forum, in a thread, meant for discussion![]()
Everyone is up for a discussion but your are here to write the whole fuckin constitution.....Oh god, if only there wasn't discussion on a forum, in a thread, meant for discussion![]()
I adressed the points he made, added my final thought, and that was it. It took the amount of words it took. Still doesn't change that I was discussing with him. Why would the amount of words change that?Everyone is up for a discussion but your are here to write the whole fuckin constitution.....![]()
Rietta's already failed Kurt's dick earlier, so her fall has to be even more extreme...how, though, is the question.
It's the classic Takeda NTR story, where the vanilla wholesome sex was satisfying for the girls at first, Arika get's a surprising amount of satisfying sex and implied sex with the protag in this game given the genre before the real NTR starts, but once she gets cursed and forcibly loses a lot of her love for the protagonist, and becomes trained and corrupted by the degeneracy of the villains, she's no longer satisfied by him at all. Same with the other two girls, though Terena arguably had her "fall" all the way back in EV32, which is still one of the best, and as mentioned Reitta has already technically rejected and had a direct cock comparison contest between her old and new love in EV34, also a great event, she just didn't fully realise it.One is Kurt's perspective, the other is Arika's. It's like a last-ditch effort for Arika to know who she truly loves, so she has one last intercourse with Kurt to see if he can get her pregnant (The crotch tattoo will glow if it is successful). Kurt however has a micro penis so it doesn't satisfy her, that's when she realizes her love isn't genuine enough, and what she feels for Lord Bonner is stronger.
NTR causes a lot of different reactions from men and it is funny seeing them. Some people just legit try to enjoy the porn aspect without thinking too hard about the psychology or cuckold parts. Others have visceral reactions to both and really reject or embrace the idea. The idea that you, or a perfectly relatable guy like the protagonist here, derive pleasure from seeing the women you love stolen by "superior" men creates a lot of reactions from people. So I think people try to say they hate the protagonist and would never be like him, because they want to assure themselves that they would never have their women stolen away.I don't know, Kurt feels like the decent type to me.
I mean, we say we hate guys like him, and I know lots of people love villains like Sephiroth or DIO or Joker whoever else.
But...say you had to pick a next-door neighbor (and actually get to choose). Would you go for Kurt (or someone like him) or Sephiroth? Or the Joker?
At least I'm not trying to make fun of you or the rest. For me, they are opinions and not absolute truths. Opinions are not empirical and they are not science. Each person can have whatever opinion they want, it is absolutely valid.Well, then I correct you.
"no one is taking lightly his opinion"
Oh really? The messages of "Ok, next" and "That's just your opinion" aren't dismissive? Like, at all? Because that is literally what they are.
"it is simply an opinion of how he would like the protagonist to be" That is in not what he said. He criticized that the game didn't expand or have any plans whatsoever for Kurt being anything other than the cuck. That isn't an opinion, that is a fact. Funny thing is, in writing, the main character is usually the most important person. But who am I to say whats right and wrong, only every single famous written work has character progression for their main character.
So, then, why have the player play as Kurt, and not literally anybody else? What is the point of a main character if they aren't the main character? Give some goddamn substance to them.
"The game is what it is, whether you like it or not i don't care. I only corrected him that the game is not corruption, but ntr, and I can also correct him that the game is not an RPG, only uses the RPGm engine to do a walking simulator at no time wants to be treated as an rpg this game cannot be considered as a rpg."
The game is actually both corruption and NTR.
And I want you to consider the logic of someone using an engine meant for Role playing games and not making a role playing game for it. Does it make sense? To me it makes as much sense as setting up your IT helpdesk company in an icecream truck. So, again, what is the point of using the RPGM engine if you aren't going to use it for what its meant for. Or instead just going another route and going for a VN since the RPGM medium wont be of any help in furthering the narrative.
"There are many games based on this engine without RPG elements, therefore taking this game as an RPG where a hero improves his skills until he defeats evil is a wrong view of the game"
Just because something is done often doesn't mean its right. Me using a wrench to hammer in a nail is possible, and maybe even effective. But why would I use the wrench instead of the fucking hammer.
People walk against red light at crosswalks all the time, hey, maybe it doesn't cause that much trouble, but it still doesn't make it the right option in any way.
I don't know how your reply was supposed to come off as anything other than "I don't actually care for the work i just wanna jerk". Since you literally admit in your message that you don't care for anything other than the art. The game engine not mattering, the main character not mattering, and so on. Its fine to not care about that stuff, but don't act as if vaild criticism still isn't valid just because you only enjoy one aspect of the medium. You don't have to care about Takeda using the wrong engine, or making the critical mistake of making the MC entirely bland, or the gameplay being non-existant. Just don't criticize and try to make fun of others who actually care about those things.
YesTakeda’s current plan is still to work on Rietta’s event this August and then on Cyberhoe September, is that right?
I like to read theseNah man I'm not going to read all that shit
I come here to see naked women drawn by perverted artists
You all are making this a yapping contest![]()
Yes!, i like Kurt. That is also the reason why we keep talking about a good ending, where he gets revenge or, the ending where be manages to save atleast one of his women.I don't know, Kurt feels like the decent type to me. What does irritate me is how they always get massive rewards (or get the worst end of all the deals, looking at you Shield Hero, take your angst and get out) without earning it.
I mean, we say we hate guys like him, and I know lots of people love villains like Sephiroth or DIO or Joker whoever else.
But...say you had to pick a next-door neighbor (and actually get to choose). Would you go for Kurt (or someone like him) or Sephiroth? Or the Joker?
Same bro seeing people argue is top tier entertainmentI like to read these![]()
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What title in the left one ?Okay...
These two pictures are VERY similar despite being made by two different artists.
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BTW: the other is Momofuki Rio
You know, I read in the paper that the monkeys at my local zoo had broken out. Now I just need to find out how to tell them I found one.At least I'm not trying to make fun of you or the rest. For me, they are opinions and not absolute truths. Opinions are not empirical and they are not science. Each person can have whatever opinion they want, it is absolutely valid.
and the only thing that can answer because the rest is irrelevant and rambling is that if I am here for the art?The answer is yes, I don't see the problem, Takeda is not a video game developer,he's not even a writer, he is an artist, so no, it is not crazy that you like his art![]()
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You even said I'm a ntr hater but I like art and it's absolutely valid, everyone likes what they like.
For the rest of the arguments, I can answer them in a simple sentence that answers any question you may have and it is:
because the author wanted to do it that way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You can go to Ci-en or Fantia to tell him your concerns, who knows, maybe he won't ignore you and change his game to adapt it to your exclusive tastes
Doesn't have to be groundbreaking. But the reason works are able to be shoveled out in these states are because people keep eating that shit up. There's gotta be complaints and criticism or nothing will ever change. Which is why I get pissed off when people just shrug off everything just because something is "good enough" when it could be "better". Doesn't have to be perfect, and you shouldn't only be criticizing for the hell of it.How the hell did u guys start to argue about the game like this wtf.
The truth is, to this day I still don't understand why Takeda made this work an RPG and not a VN because the gameplay basically doesn´t exist. (I guess it´s easier to program it ? not like he´s wrong for wanting to do it like that)
Talking about Kurt´s lack of substance, he was never intended to be a complex character at all, the game just does the necessary writing and show you a bit of his life and the development of his relationship with the girls for the sake of the blow hitting harder when the NTR starts.
That the game had the potential to be one of the greatest writing peaks created by humanity and also one of the best RPGs ever?
Probably yes, but he never wanted it to be like that, the game works with what has already been stablished, and that´s enough, also, I don't think anyone came here looking for a life changing work, they just wanted to jerk off.
Doesn't have one.What title in the left one ?
No? I was criticizing others for dismissing that dudes take. This other dude then comes and tries to explain that opinion is only opinion and doesn't matter. In none of my posts have I ever claimed or commented on the amount of people being "Everyone" or "most" dismissing the dudes opinion.So we have to complain just 'cuz you want us to complain when we don't feel the need nor want to complain 'cuz we don't see anything to complain about? Do you feel superior having something to complain about or what?
I see you are defending the guy that got his opinion dismissed by some ppl (which was wrong from their part) but the key point here is that it was "some ppl" that did it, not everyone. So why are you acting like everyone and their mothers here dimissed his opinion?
No? I was criticizing others for dismissing that dudes take. This other dude then comes and tries to explain that opinion is only opinion and doesn't matter. In none of my posts have I ever claimed or commented on the amount of people being "Everyone" or "most" dismissing the dudes opinion.
My point is, dismissing criticism simply because you are content with something doesn't mean that the criticism isn't valid. You don't have to criticize something, you don't have to praise something. Just don't put down others stuff because you personally are fine with something.
"According to your comments I should feel bad or ashamed of myself for liking this game as it is, which is very dimissive from your part too. As much as you are complaining about other dismissing the comment of those who complain, you are dismissing the comments of those who like it as it is."
I've never said this. I don't even know where you got this from. Its fine to like something. But just because you like something doesn't mean it couldn't be better. I love a fuck ton of games, franchises, anime, whatever. But I don't dismiss the flaws in them just because I like them.
Its simple discussion. But I see you, and the monkey dude, and a couple others dismissing valid criticism simply because you personally enjoy what the current product is. Even if that product is (Objectively) low effort in everything other than artwork. You can still enjoy the product, you can even try to argue that the gameplay and story aren't that bad.
But arguments such as "I feel" and "It's the creators choice" are inherently damaging and nonsensical. If you can't defend something through argumentation and objective fact then you shouldn't be responding to someone's criticism in the first place. Just leave it be. Don't try to claim that the game is "good" as is simply because you enjoy it. Say its good for the art, say its good for character designs.
Don't try to argue that the game which doesn't make use of the game engine its running on is somehow good in gameplay and wouldn't work better as a visual novel. Because that just isn't true. Don't try to claim that a product is good simply because its how the creator made it.
But, again, my fault for arguing with coomers. Though I agree with those others above that seeing and arguing over shit like this is fun.