Tool Translator++ 4.9.28 Standard Version / Developer Version

[Kornilov]

That implies you have it though.
Where did you get it? Can you share it?
Does your source include the crack for the old layer of drm?

I don't fully know it because I've never done it myself, but apparently if you download Tranlator++ from the patreon it's purposely missing files, and you would download those files depending on your account when you launch it.
Those files used to be in the main folder and now they've either moved to the Appdata folder, or those are now additional ones.

So "I would guess" that we do not just need the Appdata account data, but also the files of the old DRM that are loaded into the main folder, or it will not work. (Those Russian versions already include them.)

Yes, I have the "latest" (or close to it) build.
Personally I would have no problems sharing it, but would prefer having the OK from my source, as a safety measure against account banning basically, especially if what you say (belllow) is true.
No, I don't have the crack for that "latest" version, just the same one for the build v4.9.28, which as I said before doesn't work (as it is) for the "latest" build, thus sharing what I got now is pointless until we get the crack.

>apparently if you download Tranlator++ from the patreon it's purposely missing files, and you would download those files depending on your account when you launch it.
>Those files used to be in the main folder and now they've either moved to the Appdata folder, or those are now additional ones.

Umm I truly don't know because I would have to see how a fresh unaltered build looks, but honestly I don't think there exist a way to connect the files from your Translator++ folder to your account once you already got them, there may be but it is unlikely.
Furthermore, when I compared files between Translator++ v4.9.28 and the ones in the "latest" build I got, the amount of files count is similar (barely a few new ones), main changes are found in that (several) files got updated, most files between builds remained unchanged.
All this is talking about the builds in the form we (I) got shared, which I am guessing are already complete, as opposed to how they may be without "filling" them in first with the files from patreon (a subject I know nothing about).


Good news is that I got an idea and if it works, as I think it should, then we may get the "latest" build working, but I am waiting for my source to test it first from his side, for now we will have to wait (either days or a couple of weeks).
In the meantime we got v4.9.28 working, up from v4.8.31, so that's something already

 

[Kornilov]

Here's a snippet from a conversation about it. I hope he doesn't mind me sharing this, but I assume this is old news anyway if dreamsavor introduced new DRM measures on top of that : /

I think I may know which file is refered here, but it doesn't matter anyway since we get a Translator++ build with that file inside everytime (or so I think)

 

[Zeerotoa]

I met some problems using this tool to translate love love my buddy X. After creating new project it always came out the reference error, seems like a problem on js.

 

[Dark Pixel]

I met some problems using this tool to translate love love my buddy X. After creating new project it always came out the reference error, seems like a problem on js.
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The latest normally working hacked version 4.8.31
There were no mistakes.

 

[Zeerotoa]

The latest normally working hacked version 4.8.31
There were no mistakes.

Yeah I succeeded in unpacking with version 4.8.31, maybe there exists some problem with v4.9.28

 

[Cannex]

I don't know if I'm the dumbest person alive, but I have never been able to get Sugoi Translator working in Translator++. I've tried every single method in this thread and all I get is ''Undefined'' for translations and ''Python not found'' in the server.

It's been close to a week and I've given up hope.

 

[Shisaye]

I don't know if I'm the dumbest person alive, but I have never been able to get Sugoi Translator working in Translator++. I've tried every single method in this thread and all I get is ''Undefined'' for translations and ''Python not found'' in the server.

It's been close to a week and I've given up hope.

Do you actually mean in Translator++, or in general?
Also you have python installed right? There's different python installation types. (Depending on if you choose install for all users, or not, and they conflict with each other.)
It could be that your version is fucked and you need to completely remove all traces of it before reinstalling.

If you go into the Sugoi "Code" folder and you start the "Sugoi-Translator-Offline.bat", do you get 2 cmd windows and a blue window with the text "Text copied to the clipboard manually or programmatically will show up here along with the translation."?
If so do you actually get a translation in that window if you copy Japanese to your clipboard. or does your Sugoi simply not work in general?

Edit:
I might as well already add a installation tutorial.
Basically get the toolkit here:

You must be registered to see the links

Get v4 here (provided by llyama):

You must be registered to see the links

Put the model in Code/backendserver/program-backend/Sugoi-Translator-Offline/offlineTranslation/fairsec/japanesemodel.

Then either use the "Sugoi-Toolkit (click here).bat" or go to the "Code" folder and run the "Sugoi-Translator-Offline.bat" directly.
This is how it's supposed to look like:


Once you have that working and it accepts stuff from your clipboard get the Red Sugoi addon from Reddo9999.

You must be registered to see the links

(You can also have it downloaded automatically by Translator++.)

 

[Cannex]

Do you actually mean in Translator++, or in general?
Also you have python installed right? There's different python installation types. (Depending on if you choose install for all users, or not, and they conflict with each other.)
It could be that your version is fucked and you need to completely remove all traces of it before reinstalling.

If you go into the Sugoi "Code" folder and you start the "Sugoi-Translator-Offline.bat", do you get 2 cmd windows and a blue window with the text "Text copied to the clipboard manually or programmatically will show up here along with the translation."?
If so do you actually get a translation in that window if you copy Japanese to your clipboard. or does your Sugoi simply not work in general?

Edit:
I might as well already add a installation tutorial.
Basically get the toolkit here:

You must be registered to see the links

Get v4 here (provided by llyama):

You must be registered to see the links

Put the model in Code/backendserver/program-backend/Sugoi-Translator-Offline/offlineTranslation/fairsec/japanesemodel.

Then either use the "Sugoi-Toolkit (click here).bat" or go to the "Code" folder and run the "Sugoi-Translator-Offline.bat" directly.
This is how it's supposed to look like:
View attachment 2339353

Once you have that working and it accepts stuff from your clipboard get the Red Sugoi addon from Reddo9999.

You must be registered to see the links

(You can also have it downloaded automatically by Translator++.)

I've tried that at least twenty times and nothing has changed. Translator++ never works with Sugoi and Sugoi offline translator never works either.

 

[Shisaye]

I've tried that at least twenty times and nothing has changed. Translator++ never works with Sugoi and Sugoi offline translator never works either.

Well you're not giving a whole lot of information.
What operating system are you even using? Windows 10?
What does it say if you put

python --version

into cmd?

 

[Cannex]

Well you're not giving a whole lot of information.
What operating system are you even using? Windows 10?
What does it say if you put

python --version

into cmd?

It says ''Python not found; run without arguments to install from the Microsoft store, or disable this shortcut from settings > Manage App Execution Aliases.''

Anytime I got close to making this work, it says server closed because of missing torch. Whatever that means

 

[Shisaye]

It says ''Python not found; run without arguments to install from the Microsoft store, or disable this shortcut from settings > Manage App Execution Aliases.''

Anytime I got close to making this work, it says server closed because of missing torch. Whatever that means

Oh... So you don't actually have a working python version. Well that is not Sugoi's or Tranlsator++'s fault.

Please remove all traces of python from your machine.
Go to Settings>Apps if there's an entry for python click on it and uninstall it.
Go to Program Files and Program Files(x86) and remove all folders named python (If there are any).
Go to C: Users > URNAME >AppData > Local and remove all folders named python (if there are any).

Then download python from here:
EDIT: For someone else reading this later, apparently you need an older python version for the Cuda stuff.
I ignored that because my CPU is beefy enough that I really don't need it to be faster.

You must be registered to see the links

Assuming you have a 64bit system and Windows 10.

When installing make sure you have "Add pyhton.exe to PATH" checked.
I would also check "Install python for all users" because it's a nicer path than having it cramped in appdata.

Once you've done that run the

python --version

command again and tell me if the output changed.

 

[Cannex]

Oh... So you don't actually have a working python version. Well that is not Sugoi's or Tranlsator++'s fault.

Please remove all traces of python from your machine.
Go to Settings>Apps if there's an entry for python click on it and uninstall it.
Go to Program Files and Program Files(x86) and remove all folders named python (If there are any).
Go to C: Users > URNAME >AppData > Local and remove all folders named python (if there are any).

Then download python from here:

You must be registered to see the links

Assuming you have a 64bit system and Windows 10.

When installing make sure you have "Add pyhton.exe to PATH" checked.
I would also check "Install python for all users" because it's a nicer path than having it cramped in appdata.

Once you've done that run the

python --version

command again and tell me if the output changed.

I managed to install it correctly and it does show up when looking for it in cmd. Sugoi Translator offline seems to be working fine now but I haven't tried it in Translator++ yet.

Trying to install pip gives me this message ''Error: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement torch ( from versions: none)
''Error: No matching distribution found for torch

Yet another roadblock for me.

 

[Shisaye]

I managed to install it correctly and it does show up when looking for it in cmd. Sugoi Translator offline seems to be working fine now but I haven't tried it in Translator++ yet.

Trying to install pip gives me this message ''Error: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement torch ( from versions: none)
''Error: No matching distribution found for torch

Yet another roadblock for me.

Why do you even need torch? You said Sugoi was working now.
Is the Translator++ addon RedSugoi not working?

 

[Cannex]

Why do you even need torch? You said Sugoi was working now.
Is the Translator++ addon RedSugoi not working?

That's the whole reason why I'm in this thread. Translator++ refuses to work with Sugoi translator offline and never gives me the option to use my GPU even if I use the option of patching it.

 

[Shisaye]

That's the whole reason why I'm in this thread. Translator++ refuses to work with Sugoi translator offline and never gives me the option to use my GPU even if I use the option of patching it.

Well good luck with that.
I'm done playing the guessing game without getting any proper information.

 

[Cannex]

Well good luck with that.
I'm done playing the guessing game without getting any proper information.

You haven't asked for any information but sure thanks anyway.

 

[Shisaye]

You haven't asked for any information but sure thanks anyway.

How about these you completely ignored and I had to rely on the guessing game:

Do you actually mean in Translator++, or in general?

Also you have python installed right? There's different python installation types. (Depending on if you choose install for all users, or not, and they conflict with each other.)

What operating system are you even using? Windows 10?

And now the latest ones:

Why do you even need torch?

Is the Translator++ addon RedSugoi not working?

Or bothering to actually give any information, or screen how it is not working. If there's an error or whatever.
Am I supposed to look into a crystal ball and magically look into your room to find out what you're doing wrong?

You literally said that Sugoi Offline is working correctly now. So what is actually going on now?

Because nothing you mention seems to even have anything to do with RedSugoi.
You literally just install that addon and then you have the option to translate things in Translator++ with Sugoi. (While you have Sugoi offline running obviously.)
There is no options. There's not even a separate window.
I have no idea what you are even doing.

 

[Darksshades]

Trying to install pip gives me this message ''Error: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement torch ( from versions: none)
''Error: No matching distribution found for torch

Yet another roadblock for me.

Just some notes, this is actually a fairly known problem that will happen if.... ironically enough, you have the latest version of python.
Basically the newest version of python doesn't have packages for all the versions of torch+cuda that pip is asking for.
And it's hard to say if the maintainers of the packages would add these older versions to it in the future.

It's been a while but if I'm not mistaken pytorch+cuda NEEDS to have python at least 3.8, but less than 3.11.

You might want to try either python 3.9 or python 3.10.9. You can download then from the python archive.
This should most likely solve the problems with the dependencies not installing.

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Also note, that even if you didn't managed to install pytorch+cuda correctly, the translator++ would still work, it would only default to the CPU instead.

--
Lastly
I did go through a whole journey to make sugoiTrans work with translator++.
The latest free version of T++ with SugoiTrans addon(the last time I checked) didn't actually worked. And it didn't had support for GPU.
The addon was based on a really old version of sugoiTrans and the paths were all wrong for the new version, which made it not work at all.

I make a few fixes and documented here and there what I did to make it work, with GPU and with T++.

It might be a bit of a mess to check all the posts but it starts about here(https://f95zone.to/threads/translator-4-9-28-standard-version-developer-version.60101/post-9052503) and spans several threads.

I even made a custom sugoiTrans addon(named SugoiTrans Gold) at the end to help fix some issues I was having and to avoid edit too many files to fix the issue.

I think I originally used miniConda to install another version of python but that was totally unnecessary, I just needed the right version of python installed in the first place.

-
Good luck

 

[Cannex]

Just some notes, this is actually a fairly known problem that will happen if.... ironically enough, you have the latest version of python.
Basically the newest version of python doesn't have packages for all the versions of torch+cuda that pip is asking for.
And it's hard to say if the maintainers of the packages would add these older versions to it in the future.

It's been a while but if I'm not mistaken pytorch+cuda NEEDS to have python at least 3.8, but less than 3.11.

You might want to try either python 3.9 or python 3.10.9. You can download then from the python archive.
This should most likely solve the problems with the dependencies not installing.

---
Also note, that even if you didn't managed to install pytorch+cuda correctly, the translator++ would still work, it would only default to the CPU instead.

--
Lastly
I did go through a whole journey to make sugoiTrans work with translator++.
The latest free version of T++ with SugoiTrans addon(the last time I checked) didn't actually worked. And it didn't had support for GPU.
The addon was based on a really old version of sugoiTrans and the paths were all wrong for the new version, which made it not work at all.

I make a few fixes and documented here and there what I did to make it work, with GPU and with T++.

It might be a bit of a mess to check all the posts but it starts about here(https://f95zone.to/threads/translator-4-9-28-standard-version-developer-version.60101/post-9052503) and spans several threads.

I even made a custom sugoiTrans addon(named SugoiTrans Gold) at the end to help fix some issues I was having and to avoid edit too many files to fix the issue.

I think I originally used miniConda to install another version of python but that was totally unnecessary, I just needed the right version of python installed in the first place.

-
Good luck

I've hoped that maybe python was the issue but it didn't end up fixing much. I managed to install torch but Sugoi Translator still doesn't work in Translator++. I installed the sugoitransfix, sugoi_gpu_cuda, the cuda_flaskserver and the end result was a window saying ''Modulenotfounderror: No module named 'flask'
The server has been closed''

Now even Sugoi translator offline by itself refuses to work correctly. I've been having constant problems so I'm just gonna end it here and give it up. Thanks for all the help.

 

[Shisaye]

Yes, I have the "latest" (or close to it) build.
Personally I would have no problems sharing it, but would prefer having the OK from my source, as a safety measure against account banning basically, especially if what you say (belllow) is true.
No, I don't have the crack for that "latest" version, just the same one for the build v4.9.28, which as I said before doesn't work (as it is) for the "latest" build, thus sharing what I got now is pointless until we get the crack.

>apparently if you download Tranlator++ from the patreon it's purposely missing files, and you would download those files depending on your account when you launch it.
>Those files used to be in the main folder and now they've either moved to the Appdata folder, or those are now additional ones.

Umm I truly don't know because I would have to see how a fresh unaltered build looks, but honestly I don't think there exist a way to connect the files from your Translator++ folder to your account once you already got them, there may be but it is unlikely.
Furthermore, when I compared files between Translator++ v4.9.28 and the ones in the "latest" build I got, the amount of files count is similar (barely a few new ones), main changes are found in that (several) files got updated, most files between builds remained unchanged.
All this is talking about the builds in the form we (I) got shared, which I am guessing are already complete, as opposed to how they may be without "filling" them in first with the files from patreon (a subject I know nothing about).


Good news is that I got an idea and if it works, as I think it should, then we may get the "latest" build working, but I am waiting for my source to test it first from his side, for now we will have to wait (either days or a couple of weeks).
In the meantime we got v4.9.28 working, up from v4.8.31, so that's something already

Btw in case that makes things easier, I personally think currently, for Japanese to English, a completely offline Translator++ version would basically have the same value as an online one.
The best option for batch translating right now is clearly the Sugoi Offline Translator and that does not need any online features.
You can even get the RedSugoi addon without them, since it's not made by Dreamsavior, and you can just download the latest version from Github.

In case you would need a second opinion on something, because you can't read Japanese, you could just use JDeppL or the DeepL grabber from the Sugoi dev, once again completely bypassing Translator++'s online stuff without serious downsides.