mazqaz

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I don't wanna sound like an asshole but since a lot of people just really hate the futa parts and find it incredibly annoying, why not give other text based games with way less of said content or none at all the attention they deserves?
 
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Boyim

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U wot? Ever since the original CoC Fenoxo's games have been built on a variety of content. Just because futa is a core fetish doesn't exclude other stuff. From the top of my head, TiTS has a good chunk of vanilla M/F, non-vanilla M/F, hu-cow (with a whole lot of plain ol' hyper-endowed men/women), slavery, BDSM, sadism, bimbo and fucking a literal dragon.

Multiple of these are not for me, but they exist in the eco-system of the game and I can simply choose to not engage with them. All of them have large swathes of content, aside from the fucking a literal dragon, but I put that there to emphasis my point.
The mere presence of other outlier fetishes doesn't detract from it being a futa game.

If a scat game full of shit had a handful of non-scat scenes, let's say futa and straight scenes, and attracted a handful of people who just liked those and hated scat, none of these scat-hating fans would have a leg to stand on complaining about more scat being added to the game. Doesn't matter how much fringe breadth there is at the edges, the game is a scat game.

Just like DoL is a sub game, Trap quest is a trap game, and Tits and CoC are futa games. The mere possibility of non-futa content being added doesn't somehow snip away at the spirit of the enterprise. And considering all these games are given fan contributions:
1) this is what fans want and are willing to contribute and
2) no person who wants something else has any reason to complain.

Although it's technically possible given the model to 'overwhelm' the spirit of the game with either another fetish or a true plurality, conceiving of it in that way is to admit that this currently isn't the case.

As I said before, the complaints given about too much futa give away the issue here, which is that futa is the core fetish of the game and its fanbase. You are walking into a steakhouse and complaining about the abundance of steak.
 

Vulcan23

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Not to add fuel to the fire but If Savin is known for one thing and only thing only is that he really dislikes impregnation and seemingly always removed or asked writers to do a second draft of their characters because he disliked putting it into the game.
It explains his seeming fascination with anal and while I as many enjoy a rump in the butt,his line of work becomes quite clear.
Also known to dislike monogamous relationship because of his current relationship but then again you're character is a slut in-game so I don't really care about that.

Luckily for COC2 it was decided early on that there would be multiple people that would have an equal say in the project work because even they saw what problems arose from CoC and even TiTS to some extent.
 
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SgtPepper234

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I can't imagine anyone paying attention to this game who doesn't like futa. Unless it's just an act of desperation because there is scarcity of content elsewhere, it would seem a terrible move.

Regardless, walking into Futa H.Q. and saying "Be less of the entire core of your being" isn't exactly fair. I'm sure people who like normal porn react quite negatively when futa is inserted into games they enjoy. And by "I'm sure" I mean I have seen this with my own eyes.

Moreover their vitriolic response is often coupled with some sort or moral justification, using words like "betrayal" or claiming the purity of the game has been tainted or infringed upon.

This isn't even to downplay that mindset. Much the opposite, I wholeheartedly agree. Games with a core fetish being inundated with antithetical content makes them worse, in some cases "broken", and should be avoided. Nothing about a well-made porn game should kill the boner of the core audience.

However, if we believe that rationale, then the argument becomes "Why are there any non-futa additions to Tits?" and that's actually a good question.

Most people come to Tits because they want to encounter space women with 20 inch penises and have them brutalize their holes. Why? Because that has been the core of all of Fenoxo's games since the beginning. It's what they are about, and what they best provide. The complaints here stand as testament to that fact.

It is only because they are well 'fed' that futa fans do not complain the same way saying "Why did you add a man with an 8 inch penis into my big dick futa game?"
But as we have seen, they would have every right to make this complaint. I'm guessing for a fair portion it'd be non-content.
This! Thank you!
 
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James3

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I don't wanna sound like an asshole but since a lot of people just really hate the futa parts and find it incredibly annoying, why not give other text based games with way less of said content or none at all the attention they deserves?
They do. That's how much most of those other games suck. Also, the makers of Slablands having the BRILLIANT idea of nuking the system's ability to read previous saves at a point discouraged a lot of people when they found out versions of the game from before that weren't as available as Fenco's older versions of things. The makers of Slablands's attitudes toward nearly all criticism or problems that users had didn't help, either.

The problem with the futa shit is they start these games out acting like they're mostly all-inclusive and then start pushing that heavily. Some of the ways they push it in the game are so ridiculous and juvenile in nature that if you wanted to make a comedy parody of that kind of thing, you couldn't do much better than what they do unironically. "But muh number of each gender!" It's not just the number of characters, but what they do with and how things are placed in it. I don't know why people act like how futafags act in sites that allow porn in general "doesn't count" at all with things, either.
 
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goten

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The mere presence of other outlier fetishes doesn't detract from it being a futa game.

If a scat game full of shit had a handful of non-scat scenes, let's say futa and straight scenes, and attracted a handful of people who just liked those and hated scat, none of these scat-hating fans would have a leg to stand on complaining about more scat being added to the game. Doesn't matter how much fringe breadth there is at the edges, the game is a scat game.

Just like DoL is a sub game, Trap quest is a trap game, and Tits and CoC are futa games. The mere possibility of non-futa content being added doesn't somehow snip away at the spirit of the enterprise. And considering all these games are given fan contributions:
1) this is what fans want and are willing to contribute and
2) no person who wants something else has any reason to complain.

Although it's technically possible given the model to 'overwhelm' the spirit of the game with either another fetish or a true plurality, conceiving of it in that way is to admit that this currently isn't the case.

As I said before, the complaints given about too much futa give away the issue here, which is that futa is the core fetish of the game and its fanbase. You are walking into a steakhouse and complaining about the abundance of steak.
Sorry, which one is Dol again? Can't remember anything with that acronym...
 

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You speak of the lack of non-futa male as if that's exclusive from the former in your post.:confused:
It's Fen we're talking about. His idea of a non-futa males is a 4 meter tall bull-man with a penis that's the size of his entire body and his women suffer from broken backs with ZZ-Cups.
I'm not holding my breath on having something *normal* with our boy Fen. :ROFLMAO:
 
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It's Fen we're talking about. His idea of a non-futa males is a 4 meter tall bull-man with a penis that's the size of his entire body and his women suffer from broken backs with ZZ-Cups.
I'm not holding my breath on having something *normal* with our boy Fen. :ROFLMAO:
Yeah, no shit. Those stupid "This game has so many fetishes!" disclaimers are a joke too. The guy has three fetishes: Furries, futa, and hyper.
 
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Vulcan23

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Yeah, no shit. Those stupid "This game has so many fetishes!" disclaimers are a joke too. The guy has three fetishes: Furries, futa, and exaggerated features.
For me its easier to size them up to realistic standards and to take the art /busts that he posts as more of a suggestion than clear canon look. Can't imagine jacking off to Kiro with her balls being the size of half a human
 
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The problem with the futa shit is they start these games out acting like they're mostly all-inclusive and then start pushing that heavily. Some of the ways they push it in the game are so ridiculous and juvenile in nature that if you wanted to make a comedy parody of that kind of thing, you couldn't do much better than what they do unironically. "But muh number of each gender!" It's not just the number of characters, but what they do with and how things are placed in it. I don't know why people act like how futafags act in sites that allow porn in general "doesn't count" at all with things, either.
This is the core of the matter, i also got caught in this game with the "There's something for everyone!" thing but the more time goes on the more the futa content starts to dwarf everything, in other words: fenoxo swindled us. :ROFLMAO:
 

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So does anyone know any other text based adventure game like coc 1 or tits?
I've already played lilith's throne and imo it was kinda boring.
 

Soap Cracker

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I've already played that.
It honestly imo does not fee like a successor to the first one.
Sure there are similarities but lacks that certain charm of the first one.
I get ya, but it's literally the closest thing you will ever get to coc.
 

James3

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So does anyone know any other text based adventure game like coc 1 or tits?
I've already played lilith's throne and imo it was kinda boring.
Nimin, which is a lot like a small and more primitive version of CoC. (moving works a little differently, though) Expect it to be as gay as Fenoxo's crowds' other gayest work, however.

There's Slablands, which is pretty lame and corny. Be sure to keep a version where everything including the saves work, though, as the lack of consideration from the makers to the consumers can get really discouraging, really fast.
 
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James3

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It's Fen we're talking about. His idea of a non-futa males is a 4 meter tall bull-man with a penis that's the size of his entire body and his women suffer from broken backs with ZZ-Cups.
I'm not holding my breath on having something *normal* with our boy Fen. :ROFLMAO:
My point was my belief that he does that, disproportionately, because he only really gives a shit about futa when it comes to anything with a dick.
 

Boyim

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Yeah, no shit. Those stupid "This game has so many fetishes!" disclaimers are a joke too. The guy has three fetishes: Furries, futa, and exaggerated features.
Yes, he does. That is what the game is about, and anyone who thinks it makes sense to complain about it is bitching at Satan about the heat. I'm sorry that there aren't an abundance of more developed non-futa games. If I could warp the social pysche of the western porn game world to suit your whims I would.

But apparently the conglomeration of money, """"""""talent"""""""", and attention has wrapped itself around futa and you need to either suck it up, pay up, or make straight games yourselves.

No one complaining about futa in Tits has an inch of justification. If you did, I could complain in every other vaguely diverse porn game about the lack of two foot long futa cock. And I doubt I'd receive a warmer welcome.

To be more compromising, it would be more honest if Fen just said at the top of his site,
"This is a futa game with some other shit flecked in." Shame he doesn't, unfortunately that still doesn't justify this stupidity.

Anyone who has come here to complain has accidentally realized a truth all too apparent to everyone who has been aware of this game for more than 6 months. That is to say we know it is just as much about girl-cock as everything else Fen has made since like a decade and a half ago.

Stop bitching about futa in this game. It's like complaining about vaginas on women. If you don't like girldick, this fantasy world isn't for you.
 
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