HornyyPussy
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It's there because of the scene with the sister and wife. It doesn't really qualify according to the site rules though but it's still there for some reason.
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Sadowdark
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Where you have so much fucking going on in this game and nothing happens. You must be playing a different game than me.
KurtisK2007
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Am i missing something, for a second i thought dom was trans, but where would be the character warranting the futa tag? perhaps im just blind...
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Technically, yes, but in one of the later releases (v0.20 or v0.21 - I don't remember exactly), she is shown for the first time with full frontal nudity, and as a fully post-op trans.
With F95's current tag system, futa and trans are not tagged separately, though, which is kinda annoying. In the new tag system, at least, the "futa/trans" tag is planned to be split into proper subgroupings:
- futa
- trans-male
- trans-nonbinary
- trans-female
KurtisK2007
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What the f... I played this game long time ago and it didn't have the ntr tag WHAT? What is the tag for? Can somebody please explain why is the tag?
i ddint see the fucking i only see teasing,teasing,teasing,like the pussy he is ,he should fuck everyone not only milly and 2 or 3 more,.
Scooter_Tramp
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2019 - 2024 and still can't talk to Deb as it may be the biggest betrayal in VN history and eclipse anything douchebag Eric ever did, he was an opportunist plain & simple but Deb was your best friend, sister & lover and stole your wife while you were living in hell in prison and hid it all from you +way more... I stopped playing this game 4 releases ago because I couldn't take seeing Deb's face anymore (despite how much better she looks) I keep downloading it but never play it, I delete it first when I need space on my hdd... Interactions with my daughter are always prefaced with Deb speaking to her first leaving a bad taste in my mouth and Deb fooling around with my daughter just makes me livid... I think I will abandon this game long before the dev does...
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Avaron1974
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No she didn't.
MC's wife came on to Deb and it was wayyyyyy before he went to prison. She saw MC and Deb fucking and wanted to get him back for cheating on her so went after Deb.
She divorced him and married someone else when he went to prison then turned his daughter against him.
It's like some of you don't even read the story you're complaining about.
FatGiant
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All that, and I still hope that Marie is alive and all, so not only can our daughter have her mother back, but also my MC can have a chance to actually have closure with someone that he truly wronged for so long. Someone that even knowing of his cheating, still cared enough to divorce him to avoid see him killed. Yes, she then kept his daughter away, but, I can understand her decision and reasoning.
They put the blame on Deb, even the MC, but, no one seems to be able to grasp what it would be like to be in her place. She's in love with someone that can't ever claim her publicly, she knows it, yet, there was never any chance for her, you truly can't choose who you love, you just do. Then that someone leaves, and Deb takes the mission of being there for her oldest friend, whom she's sharing a lover with. She's been attracted to her all her life, they are alone, drunk (she thinks), horny, she comes on to her... Fuck, she wasn't born to be a fucking Saint. Neither is she a Demon.
This story is truly too complex for simplistic binary views. People without the capacity to evaluate this complexity choose simple solutions. I can only say, they aren't hurting anyone else but themselves, so, I choose to let them do it. You want to bang your head against a wall, over and over and over? Sure, need a hand on the back of your head to help hit harder? No I'm not stopping you, I'll help you along...
Peace
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lmao, no one can unironically be this far up their own ass
4+ years of development, 200 peak patreons(I bet its less than 100 now outside of release month), I think its fair to say they are hurting the dev. There is literally zero growth going on with this game. Now, you can't pretend that you are so enlightened, progressive and 5head and not see the correlation between this game insisting to present itself as a harem/incest/romance game, while doing everything its power to piss that type of audience off?
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Avaron1974
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NewTricks
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Trying to discern Marie's motivations is like stripping naked and kicking a wasp's nest. She supposedly did everything she did to keep him and his daughter from fucking, yet when she was picking a selection of photos to send with her death packet she thought this one was best.
Marie's motivations make less sense than the Joker after huffing a meth factory. Discuss.
LWtbo
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I agree with Avaron I do's seem that most people that moan about this game don't seem to have played it.
However its worse than that even some that have played it have totaly failed to understand what the are supossed to have read usually due to them disliking Deb so much for little actual reason.
even the one that supports the game I question sometimes.
For instance that one complaint " but Deb was your best friend, sister & lover and stole your wife while you were living in hell in prison"
His Sister did not steal his wife never mind waiting till he was in prison.
The affair started while he was posted abroad I think at his request.
And well before the incident resulting in his going to Prison.
The backstory hint's that the Sister although she did have a choice she had very little choice.
His wife while drunk emotionally blackmailed his sister into the affair.
The reasoning I belive the wife gave for this is she knew about the Sister and her brother.
And had decided it was its either the sister she sleeps with or some stranger/strangers.
But either way she was gonna have an affair.
personally my veiw is.
If anyone stole the Wife it was the Gay second husband.
But personally I think the wife realised what a fucked up thing she did. with her frankly stupid moronic excuse of an Idea for protecting him which didn't really work it distracted him a little it didn't stop him.
And her equally stupid reason for turning his daughter against him which frankly was for her benifit not her daughter's.
Only later is it sujested that she was worried the MC would sleep with his daughter.
After the original excuse of it was actually to stop her daughter fighting with mommy.
Because her daughter wanted to go back to daddy and her daughter might possibly attemp to run away for the same reason.
So it's bullshit It was for mommys sanity and peace of mind that she posioned her daughter anginst the MC.
And all she really had to do was ask him not to sleep with his daughter and given his original reluctance he wouldn't have.
His resistance was worn down she coud of prevented that if she had stuck around instead if dumping him.
So yeh I think she was just shit scared over how she fucked it up to go back to him as she had supossedly planed.
And i'm gonna be cheeky now and use the latest defence of a sort.
" but also my MC can have a chance to actually have closure with someone that he truly wronged for so long. "
Closure I agree with but Wronged get real.
It is a matter of perspective is the Wife actually being wronged.
When she still agreed to the marriage and actually married him despite her.
Thanks to MC's mommy/Detective (detective or MC's Mommy not sure which but I suspect it was MC's mommy, hard to say its a long time since I played the start).
None the less she already knew about the MC's on going affair with his Sister.
And she already suspected that it was not gonna stop even after the marriage.
So wronged really?... I think most people would associate being wronged to mean the wife being totaly unaware of the incestual infidelity?.
Personally I think the MC should let go of his grudge against Deb by now its far better directed at MC's mother.
Just sayin.
However its worse than that even some that have played it have totaly failed to understand what the are supossed to have read usually due to them disliking Deb so much for little actual reason.
even the one that supports the game I question sometimes.
For instance that one complaint " but Deb was your best friend, sister & lover and stole your wife while you were living in hell in prison"
His Sister did not steal his wife never mind waiting till he was in prison.
The affair started while he was posted abroad I think at his request.
And well before the incident resulting in his going to Prison.
The backstory hint's that the Sister although she did have a choice she had very little choice.
His wife while drunk emotionally blackmailed his sister into the affair.
The reasoning I belive the wife gave for this is she knew about the Sister and her brother.
And had decided it was its either the sister she sleeps with or some stranger/strangers.
But either way she was gonna have an affair.
personally my veiw is.
If anyone stole the Wife it was the Gay second husband.
But personally I think the wife realised what a fucked up thing she did. with her frankly stupid moronic excuse of an Idea for protecting him which didn't really work it distracted him a little it didn't stop him.
And her equally stupid reason for turning his daughter against him which frankly was for her benifit not her daughter's.
Only later is it sujested that she was worried the MC would sleep with his daughter.
After the original excuse of it was actually to stop her daughter fighting with mommy.
Because her daughter wanted to go back to daddy and her daughter might possibly attemp to run away for the same reason.
So it's bullshit It was for mommys sanity and peace of mind that she posioned her daughter anginst the MC.
And all she really had to do was ask him not to sleep with his daughter and given his original reluctance he wouldn't have.
His resistance was worn down she coud of prevented that if she had stuck around instead if dumping him.
So yeh I think she was just shit scared over how she fucked it up to go back to him as she had supossedly planed.
And i'm gonna be cheeky now and use the latest defence of a sort.
" but also my MC can have a chance to actually have closure with someone that he truly wronged for so long. "
Closure I agree with but Wronged get real.
It is a matter of perspective is the Wife actually being wronged.
When she still agreed to the marriage and actually married him despite her.
Thanks to MC's mommy/Detective (detective or MC's Mommy not sure which but I suspect it was MC's mommy, hard to say its a long time since I played the start).
None the less she already knew about the MC's on going affair with his Sister.
And she already suspected that it was not gonna stop even after the marriage.
So wronged really?... I think most people would associate being wronged to mean the wife being totaly unaware of the incestual infidelity?.
Personally I think the MC should let go of his grudge against Deb by now its far better directed at MC's mother.
Just sayin.
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FatGiant
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There's 2 sides to the "Wronged" detail.
One, she knew, yes. Remember the three of them were inseparable, Marie and Deb and the MC were really close friends. Not only was she being cheated on by her fiancée she was also being cheated by her best friend. That's without even considering that Marie is/was against Incest. Probably, because of her education, but it felt that it also had roots on the MC/Deb liaison.
Second, he felt that he wronged her. Somehow he justified it to himself, that he loved Deb but couldn't ever marry her, so he married the next best thing, their mutual best friend. Was he not in love with Marie? I think he convinced himself that he was. There were definitive deep feelings.
So yes, even knowing, she was indeed wronged by the MC. She was the "Possible Wife". Had Deb not been MC's sister, or had them the possibility of bypassing that, it would be Deb that the MC would happily marry. If he even so manages to develop feelings for Marie, or not, it is still a shitty reason to marry her. They had a relationship where he was absent most of the time, by choice.
To me, the MC really has some things to make up for with Marie. She was a much better wife than he deserved. Even if she was not perfect. Fuck perfection.
You say that a Gay man stole his wife, but that is completely wrong. Marie married her second husband AFTER she had made the decision about the MC. From what we learn about this second marriage it was clear that they were friends rather than anything else. She provided him the "beard" he needed, he provided her with security (up to a point) and a future. Marie made a good decision there. She was out of a marriage where she was in love with a man that was forever in love with another woman, she had accepted her role in being the "possible", so what was the problem in entering one where she would be a "beard" but there were no secret affairs.
To be honest, I would truly like to get to know Marie better.
Peace
LWtbo
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No I didn't say that!... (well I did it just wasn't supossed to say that).
What I meant to say by that was that if any one might be considered to of stolen his Wife.
Then it was the Guy Husband rather than as was accused Deb.
My problem is spotting when my thoughts are not fully typed up even after a few re-reads.
I can still miss when I may of have thought it that way but then left words out when typeing it.
What It should of said was " If anyone can be concidered to have stolen the Wife it was the Gay second husband."
But I can see why you could assume what you did because I badly missed my original mistake.
No one stole her its was her own misguided Idea to leave him.
I understand you reasoning even though I can't agree with it.
Yes the MC was a shit husband and father but then he isn't mentaly not what can some would call normal (Theres a name for it I'm sure).
He can be both soicial awkward and emotional distant also mainly emotional clueless too most of the time.
But If I remember correctly he did love his Wife before he married her he just happend to love his Sister more.
He didn't use her and her love for him because he couldn't marry his Sister.
He may of married her because he couldn't his Sister but he did as far as he can actually love her as shown in his flash backs.
The only real problem is that He LOVED his profession more than either his Wife his Daughter or his Sister.
His Wife may not be the out and out Bitch that most people seem to think she is.
But she also very much wasn't a victim in this.
She was with the MC despite being in full knowledge of her haveing to share him with his Sister and she didn't appear to care.
Apart from if she did actually die in the boat blast which is the only time she would of been an Actual Victim.
So I very much doubt she would consider herself as being Wronged by him in anyway.
Again My Opinion Just Sayin.
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JokerOfTorment
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I'll sum up the hate everyone has with deb so far for those curious is the fact deb made up lies about her sleeping with other men to get mc mad/jealous only to later tell mc it was all lies then later he finds out deb slept with his wife regardless of who started it was still technically bad on both of them as one could have stopped it due to it being wrong as they cared about the mcs feelings and just waited until he was free and not hide it and told the truth of the wife and deb almost having sex but got ended before it went anywhere and if they still wanted to have sex they could have asked if he wanted in or something, but it turned into a mess of them actually having sex and stuff that got hidden from mc also the fact deb hid valuable information that probably could have solved a lot of things early to help out her brother once he started to look for clues on things.
Also tries to be manipulative at times to the mc then when they get to milly's house deb doesn't once try to help the mc patch things up with his daughter she keeps playing her part in the dastardly plot the family came up with to keep them apart and still treats him bad in a lot of situations often at times he isn't in the right mind to be messed with at the time.
Deb tries to sleep with every female she can even if the mc likes that said female due to her being horny so much and no one likes it due to they see it as lesbian ntr or something as the mc can only watch as deb does it randomly and either when mc can't get involved or behind his back for the most part kind of like she does it to provoke some sort of emotion into him either jealousy, or just taunting him in some way as she knows about the cameras he set up, so deb must get the mindset of "yeah I'm with this girl, and you are not ha" as the mc watches
A big one don't think anyone has mentioned it is when mc told deb to not touch his daughter sexually and to stop her if it's milly that is the one to make the advances, but deb goes and lets the sex happen anyways multiple times behind his back betraying him and showing how little she cares what he says also like I mentioned before deb likes to keep things from the mc and tells lies to hide stuff.
Might be more others have mentioned but that covers a good deal on things for those wondering why she gets a fair amount of hate.
Also tries to be manipulative at times to the mc then when they get to milly's house deb doesn't once try to help the mc patch things up with his daughter she keeps playing her part in the dastardly plot the family came up with to keep them apart and still treats him bad in a lot of situations often at times he isn't in the right mind to be messed with at the time.
Deb tries to sleep with every female she can even if the mc likes that said female due to her being horny so much and no one likes it due to they see it as lesbian ntr or something as the mc can only watch as deb does it randomly and either when mc can't get involved or behind his back for the most part kind of like she does it to provoke some sort of emotion into him either jealousy, or just taunting him in some way as she knows about the cameras he set up, so deb must get the mindset of "yeah I'm with this girl, and you are not ha" as the mc watches
A big one don't think anyone has mentioned it is when mc told deb to not touch his daughter sexually and to stop her if it's milly that is the one to make the advances, but deb goes and lets the sex happen anyways multiple times behind his back betraying him and showing how little she cares what he says also like I mentioned before deb likes to keep things from the mc and tells lies to hide stuff.
Might be more others have mentioned but that covers a good deal on things for those wondering why she gets a fair amount of hate.
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LWtbo
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Not even Remotly correct on almost everything you say.
Once again proving that even if they play the game some people's dislike of Deb means they only see what they wan't too see.
And not what actually happends in the game.
If asked to leave his Daughter alone Deb fekin well do's much to Milly's annoyance.
Not once in any play through where I have asked Deb's to leave Milly alone and I haven't rejected Milly has Deb had any type of sex with Milly NOT FEKIN ONCE!. She won't touch Milly if the MC says not to so thats bullshit.
If she do's in yours then you didn't ask her not too and you rejected milly thats on you not her.
As for the bullshit about the camera's Debs asked the MC if he wanted to Join Her and the Housekeeper in a threesome and he said NO so again feck off.
And ofcorse she told him to check the camarera because unlike you she knows he's a bit of a Voyer which you would know if you paid attention to whats actually there and not whats in your head.
I could go on about all the other things your wrong about in your post but I would be wasteing my time.
If you want to hate Debs hate Debs but for something she actually do's not you just think she do's.
God I hate people that lie, exagerate or deliberately misrepresent about whats in a game.
Just because they don't like the game or a character in it.
Welcome to my Ignor list.
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This game is sooo broken now. I didnt have any patches and stuff installed. I tried from the beginning and crashes quite often now.