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DA22

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Sending the MC pics while she's naked in bed with Milly (the same day you get an option to tell her to back off) and feed with her banging Julia (even if you choose not to watch the actual scene) is more than enough for me to consider it that way. Plus the whole banging the MC's wife behind his back thing... I don't even know if I would call her a NPC at this point and not the main character. You could change the game's name to "Deb's harem" and no one would've notice someone else is supposed to be the MC after the intro.
Yeah our definitions of NTR are a bit different, though our preferences in games are pretty similar. :p The thing that bothers me most about Deb's character though is she knew where Milly was and not even let MC know he did not have to worry about her and she was at least safe all those years. For me IRL that would be unforgivable sin and make me kick her out of my life forever,no further questions asked, no excuses cause other loyalties even if it had been my mother.
 
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TundraLupus

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The problem here is that Deb is given the lead on every one of those relationships by the dev from start of game. It is like the MC was allowed to join the game in last minute of last quarter while being 1000 points behind. :p

Deb feels like the MC of this game and not the MC himself and has shown herself already as someone MC cannot really trust either. Now if you like lesbian action that is fine, if you played game with a male MC instead of a female protagonist game with the idea there would be more MC action as Deb action that is less fun. :p
Ok, but Deb has a reason to be ahead, she never lost contact with her niece, she was talked about in a good light to the maid, and she and the MC are actually on the same level with her, but the MC is a little slow to take advantage of it, while Deb isn't, you are literally ignoring plot here my friend, the daughter is the only one Deb has an advantage with and there is a reason for that. Now if you are complaining that we should have the option to make the Mc more assertive I can agree with you, otherwise no, it isn't Deb centric, as the story is about the Mc getting in good terms and protecting his daughter, if to you the game's focus is sex, then maybe you are right, but taking the story in considerantion you are factually wrong.
 

Rinbael

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Deb really ruins my enjoyment with this game. I like the renders and the story is okay I don't understand why the MC is even in the game he does almost nothing has barely any hot scenes with the other characters and doesn't act like an older man with armed forces training at all. I don't know why the dev hasn't just killed him off and made you play as Deb but I wouldn't be surprised if he does that eventually since she seems to be the main character.

If hope there is an ending where you tell everyone to fuck off and move away with Milly and Astrid. Astrid is the only character I like and I bet Deb is going to end up fucking her before the MC even gets to hold her hand.
 

eddie987

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Yeah our definitions of NTR are a bit different, though our preferences in games are pretty similar. :p The thing that bothers me most about Deb's character though is she knew where Milly was and not even let MC know he did not have to worry about her and she was at least safe all those years. For me IRL that would be unforgivable sin and make me kick her out of my life forever,no further questions asked, no excuses cause other loyalties even if it had been my mother.
And it's not only her. Their mother also knew Milly's whereabouts. I really don't see why the MC would want anything to do with his family after he finds out. They are backstabing assholes. Deb is the worst of course, banging his wife behind his back, keeping her contact with her and his daughter a secret, going for his daughter right after he asks her to leave her alone and keeps ignoring anything he asks her to do and taunting him with her texts... Like I've mentioned before, I don't see how she can be anything else other than the archrival in this story.
 

Osamabeenfappin

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Deb really ruins my enjoyment with this game. I like the renders and the story is okay I don't understand why the MC is even in the game he does almost nothing has barely any hot scenes with the other characters and doesn't act like an older man with armed forces training at all. I don't know why the dev hasn't just killed him off and made you play as Deb but I wouldn't be surprised if he does that eventually since she seems to be the main character.

If hope there is an ending where you tell everyone to fuck off and move away with Milly and Astrid. Astrid is the only character I like and I bet Deb is going to end up fucking her before the MC even gets to hold her hand.

Homie I'm just hoping Deb doesn't cuck him with Astrid...... But she will
 

DA22

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Ok, but Deb has a reason to be ahead, she never lost contact with her niece, she was talked about in a good light to the maid, and she and the MC are actually on the same level with her, but the MC is a little slow to take advantage of it, while Deb isn't, you are literally ignoring plot here my friend, the daughter is the only one Deb has an advantage with and there is a reason for that. Now if you are complaining that we should have the option to make the Mc more assertive I can agree with you, otherwise no, it isn't Deb centric, as the story is about the Mc getting in good terms and protecting his daughter, if to you the game's focus is sex, then maybe you are right, but taking the story in considerantion you are factually wrong.
True, but that is actually the complaint within reason we made, in the plot/story Deb is given way too big of a lead over MC and it is centered too much about her and she is more of a stand in the way as a help anyway. Clearly that is by design by the dev if you read my original answer to his post. Now if I did not have such bad feelings about Deb's betrayal, It might not have bothered me so much as it does now, but I see her more as a likely future enemy than as my loving sister within the context of this story.

Porn games are also about the sexual action besides the normal story, but yeah if I was not interested in the story I would be gone already, since it is very lesbian focused atm. If I wanted to play game like that I would ask Avaron for a recommendation of a good lesbian female protagonist game and not look at male protagonist game.
 
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eddie987

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Homie I'm just hoping Deb doesn't cuck him with Astrid...... But she will
It's probably just a matter of time. She seemingly doesn't like her, but I don't think that would stop her. She's the only person that actually cares about the MC, and he obviously can't have anything good happening if it doesn't involve her!

You know she will but she will convince her to have an orgy with her harem while the MC stands in a corner watching and if he's lucky she might let him jerk off a bit.
She's on good track with that harem. She's already making Julia feel comfortable being naked in front of Milly. Because that was another thing in this update that was really important for the MC's story... To let Milly know how Deb is banging Julia and see her naked! Now she just needs to add a few more concubines. The MC is also a part of this harem of course and he's lucky she likes his cock, or he would probably be the eunuch in this situation. He already acts like one around her anyway...
 

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It's probably just a matter of time. She seemingly doesn't like her, but I don't think that would stop her. She's the only person that actually cares about the MC, and he obviously can't have anything good happening if it doesn't involve her!



She's on good track with that harem. She's already making Julia feel comfortable being naked in front of Milly. Because that was another thing in this update that was really important for the MC's story... To let Milly know how Deb is banging Julia and see her naked! Now she just needs to add a few more concubines. The MC is also a part of this harem of course and he's lucky she likes his cock, or he would probably be the eunuch in this situation. He already acts like one around her anyway...
She still has to add Kimiko to her harem so we have that to look forward to as well. I can't wait for Kimiko to join the orgy I'm so excited:Kappa:
 

TundraLupus

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I have yet to play this update, but i really don't see what you guys are saying, i come to this games seeing it as a game first and second, and porn third, i do have games that are a guilty pleasures i'll not deny that, and i do resent Deb for how things have gone, but i really don't get why so much hate, Deb is not preventing the Mc from fucking people, hell she is encoraging him to persue his own daughter and the maid, as we have discussed she has an advantage, and there is a reason for that, this story is obviouslly not about the Mc getting his dick wet quick, if the content bothers you for all means ask for a "skip" option, but otherwise this is just plain dumb, the story makes internal sense in its universe and the objective of the game is pretty clear, and again Deb is trying to get the Mc's dick wet, more so then he is, but that is how the character are writen.
 

DA22

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I have yet to play this update, but i really don't see what you guys are saying, i come to this games seeing it as a game first and second, and porn third, i do have games that are a guilty pleasures i'll not deny that, and i do resent Deb for how things have gone, but i really don't get why so much hate, Deb is not preventing the Mc from fucking people, hell she is encoraging him to persue his own daughter and the maid, as we have discussed she has an advantage, and there is a reason for that, this story is obviouslly not about the Mc getting his dick wet quick, if the content bothers you for all means ask for a "skip" option, but otherwise this is just plain dumb, the story makes internal sense in its universe and the objective of the game is pretty clear, and again Deb is trying to get the Mc's dick wet, more so then he is, but that is how the character are writen.
Deb has betrayed both MC and Milly for her own interests, yes also Milly. (Her emotional and mental problems stems from the fact she thought she was betrayed by her father and neither her mother or her aunt that so called loved her felt any need to help lighten her pain and allowed her to deteriorate even further, now you may call that love I call that abuse willingly and knowingly) She did the same to her brother, the so called love of her life that she would never lie to. So why should the fact she might help me get my dick wet ever make me like her or even forgive her after that? Now you know why I dislike Deb. :p

The other thing is exactly the nature of our complaint, she has been given everything too easily by design and more or less taken over as MC while she should be an NPC. I hate that design with male NPC's but also with female NPC's. :p
 
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