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Karnewarrior

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That was one of the main points of feedback from people so I've changed the default movement from walking to a jog that doesn't drain stamina, other balancing changes as well to tool usage etc. We're planning a major demo update soon!
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When considering a feature, it's best to ask "What does this add to the gameplay"

So, what does the stamina bar actually do? How is it supposed to make the player make interesting choices? If it was removed entirely, would the game suffer? If so, how? Could this be done a different way?
 
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I sincerely hope this goes somewhere, the dev behind Monster Girl Island dropped the ball so far that you can't even find it anymore. Survival crafting is a plus, any game that plays like a game is a great thing to behold.
 

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Very, very good so far, especially for a demo. Performance is fine, didn't have a single crash.

A few things that could be improved:

1) farms should not be restricated to fundation only. You should be able to place them freely.

2) sex position selections (once more are in)

3) some grace period for the first few days, getting swarmed by gobbos before I can even build a rudimentary house.

4) no-balls futa pls.
 

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When considering a feature, it's best to ask "What does this add to the gameplay"

So, what does the stamina bar actually do? How is it supposed to make the player make interesting choices? If it was removed entirely, would the game suffer? If so, how? Could this be done a different way?
Well, it does limit the player. Forces him to be more carefull, since it affects comabt. Can't just spam-click. Stamina can have it's uses, especially if it's implemented differently.

For example - treat it like hunger. Deplets SLOWLY as you do physicall demanding work. Some actions deplete it more. Requires sleeping to replenish. Sex drains it a lot.
 

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Well, it does limit the player. Forces him to be more carefull, since it affects comabt. Can't just spam-click. Stamina can have it's uses, especially if it's implemented differently.

For example - treat it like hunger. Deplets SLOWLY as you do physicall demanding work. Some actions deplete it more. Requires sleeping to replenish. Sex drains it a lot.
Why does sex need to drain it? Isn't the whole point of the game to have various types of sex with various types of interesting women? Sex should therefore already be a reward for completing some task, otherwise unrelated to stamina.
 

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Why do you self-insert?
It never ceases to amaze me how some people cannot break out of that mindset.
Personally i like self inserting, even as futa sometimes but as female i can't, i do the same in every game, i'm link while playing tloz, kratos while playing gow etc, and i'm back to being myself when not playing, it's like temporarily living in a different reality, when not self inserting i feel just like a spectator and i don't enjoy that most of the time

I tried playing female protagonist games but i just didn't enjoy them, different people like different things, personally i'd rather watch a video than watch somebody do something but i have to click/tap every now and then, a video feels more "natural" since it doesn't stop and wait for your input, so i self insert because i like it more

This is just why i do that i'm not judging or anything, other people might do it for other reasons, if people don't care about the protagonist they have even more games they're interested in and that's nice, but i can't really enjoy all of them so i look for games with male protag
 

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Why do you self-insert?
It never ceases to amaze me how some people cannot break out of that mindset.
Self-insert?
To me, it sounds more like player feedback, which either can be ignored by the dev or taken into consideration.

How else should a dev know about potential demand for their game that they haven't thought about, if only echoing opinions were welcome?
 
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Self-insert?
To me, it sounds more like player feedback, which either can be ignored by the dev or taken into consideration.

How else should a dev know about potential demand for their game that they haven't thought about, if only echoing opinions were welcome?
Male protagonists in an otherwise female-only setting has got to be one of the most not just ancient, not just normalized, but outright obvious fetishes imaginable. If a porn writer doesn't have it in the game, it's almost certainly not because the idea hasn't occurred hasn't occurred to them, but it's because it's not their priority.

This kind of gooner feedback is akin to 'reminding' someone writing a sissification video game with several minorities your character can fuck, all of whom have average or even small dicks, that certain sissification fans are really into BBC and we'd really like it if you put it in your game hint hints. How are expecting them to respond to this passive-aggressive observation, anyway? "Despite all of the realporn videos I used in my VN that show femboys getting fucked by muscular men, some of them black, it never occurred to me to lovingly describe my feminized white boi being tamed by BBC. Silly me! It's going in next update."
 

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Male protagonists in an otherwise female-only setting has got to be one of the most not just ancient, not just normalized, but outright obvious fetishes imaginable.
So? Many plot-lines in every genre have been recycled over and over with the simplest reasoning behind it. There is a not small audience for it. You sound like those Karens complaining about nudity mods..
It's not like he said "He is coming back if he replaces the one for the other." He was talking about it being an optional. So it wont take anything away from the vanilla experience nor was he demanding that.


If a porn writer doesn't have it in the game, it's almost certainly not because the idea hasn't occurred hasn't occurred to them, but it's because it's not their priority.
Correct, "almost" certain and if he did, there is the chance he waved that idea thinking that genre is already oversaturated and no on want's more.

But it still doesn't change anything about my point. - How should a dev know how high the demand for such an option is if no one would be allowed to suggest it.


This kind of gooner feedback is akin to 'reminding' someone writing a sissification video game with several minorities your character can fuck, all of whom have average or even small dicks, that certain sissification fans are really into BBC and we'd really like it if you put it in your game hint hints. How are expecting them to respond to this passive-aggressive observation, anyway? "Despite all of the realporn videos I used in my VN that show femboys getting fucked by muscular men, some of them black, it never occurred to me to lovingly describe my feminized white boi being tamed by BBC. Silly me! It's going in next update."
You are calling his suggestion "gooner feed-back", while you are going nuts about a simple statement like 'It would be cool if there is an option to change that, otherwise it's not my cup of tea'?

...you are in urgent need for a deep breath of fresh air.
 

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Why does sex need to drain it? Isn't the whole point of the game to have various types of sex with various types of interesting women? Sex should therefore already be a reward for completing some task, otherwise unrelated to stamina.
Why? Because it actually gives sleep a purpose. Because sex is physical, sweaty work and tires you out. Because it makes sense.

Besides, nothing is stoping you from having sex. You would use the bad anyway to have sex in it, so jsut sleep first is stamina is low. So it's a very soft and forgiving limit.
 
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Personally i like self inserting, even as futa sometimes but as female i can't, i do the same in every game, i'm link while playing tloz, kratos while playing gow etc, and i'm back to being myself when not playing, it's like temporarily living in a different reality, when not self inserting i feel just like a spectator and i don't enjoy that most of the time

I tried playing female protagonist games but i just didn't enjoy them, different people like different things, personally i'd rather watch a video than watch somebody do something but i have to click/tap every now and then, a video feels more "natural" since it doesn't stop and wait for your input, so i self insert because i like it more

This is just why i do that i'm not judging or anything, other people might do it for other reasons, if people don't care about the protagonist they have even more games they're interested in and that's nice, but i can't really enjoy all of them so i look for games with male protag
Huh.
I'm kinda the opposite. For normal game, male MC.
For porn games, female or futa MCs, since I like looking at lady bits. I can play with male MC's, but I find it a vastly inferior experience.

I don't self-insert and never really have as far as I can remember. I heard some people say that if you're aren't self-inserting you're cucking yourself, but that's laughable. No matter what you trick your mind into, that character on the screen isn't and will never be you.
In fact, when games have 1st perspective text, it is jarring to me most of the time. I can easily immerse myself into the game/setting, but never in the player character.
 
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BeholdTheWizzard

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I see a lot of people asking for a male protagonist option. While I'm not against the option for it, I do have to ask if we don't already have enough games where some random human guy goes around and bangs monster chicks.
That we most certinaly do, but that isn't really the issue. There are two main factors to consider:
1) Devlopers vision/plan/want
2) Work/effort required.

From personal experience, adding a male character requires a lot of work. New skeleton, new model, new animations, new clothes, etc... then you have to add checks to select proper animations and events depending on sex.
Technically, you can use the female skelton for the male, but it looks BAD. Real bad. Neve do that.

I understand liking something, wanting more of it and capmpaigning for more of it. Nothing wrong with that.
Games regulary disspoint me with lack of content I like.

Showing demand for "X" is less of an factor. Trying to cater to everyone leads to feature creep and disaster, and maleXfemale is THE most common content there is. And whilea developers can certainly try to see what is popular or requested and go chase the money, often times that leads to disaster as well. There's no amount of money you could pay me to add some kind of content to my game. Allowing certain typs of communites to guide your game development has lead to many "patreon curse" scenarios.
 
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male option would be cool. but i'll get real, if we're supposed to be walking around butt naked all the time i dont wanna keep looking at a cock on my screen at all times, i already got my own to take care off. you know what im saying.

customization is nice, but i honestly dont give a whole lot of shit if its male or female... or the general look for that matter, let me change it at any point, as i stand on the opinion of being allowed to recustomize my player model and gender at any given point. i know its a very tall ask. and most likely wont happen. the edit model at any point.

other than that i havent played a lot, after being burned by another certain game that hogged my time doing random shit also on an island just to get off, i'll say i dont have a lot of patience for long term porn games, but i'll give this a sincere try.
 
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I wanted to play the game but I got swarmed by goblins every 3 seconds so instead of getting through the tutorial I just spent my entire playtime fighting off goblins with barely any resources wtf
 

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They swarm at night. Chop some wood and get a basic house and door ASAP. You want to upgrade to a better axe as soon as possible = faster gathering, more wood.
Bow is great for hunting deer (and in general)
Wooden sword lets you muder gobbos. Lure them to bunch up, because your attacks cna hit multiple enemies
 

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That we most certinaly do, but that isn't really the issue. There are two main factors to consider:
1) Devlopers vision/plan/want
2) Work/effort required.

From personal experience, adding a male character requires a lot of work. New skeleton, new model, new animations, new clothes, etc... then you have to add checks to select proper animations and events depending on sex.
Technically, you can use the female skelton for the male, but it looks BAD. Real bad. Neve do that.

I understand liking something, wanting more of it and capmpaigning for more of it. Nothing wrong with that.
Games regulary disspoint me with lack of content I like.

Showing demand for "X" is less of an factor. Trying to cater to everyone leads to feature creep and disaster, and maleXfemale is THE most common contet there is. And whilea developer can certainly try to see what is popular or requested and go chase the money, often time that leads to disaster as well. There's no amount of money you could pay me to add some kind of content to my game. Allowing certai ntyps of communites to guise your game developmetn has lead to many "patreon curse" scenarios.
Very grounded take. In some rare cases, a vocal enough community can even push for modding support/ get satisfied enough by it. Sure, adding mod support is rarely just a checkbox, but a game like Satisfactory is a prime example of how it can work out if it pairs well with the community - some of the better mods even made it into the base game.
That being said, here as well it is up to the dev, if they don't want modding in their game then that's totally fair too.
 
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Very grounded take. In some rare cases, a vocal enough community can even push for modding support/ get satisfied enough by it. Sure, adding mod support is rarely just a checkbox, but a game like Satisfactory is a prime example of how it can work out if it pairs well with the community - some of the better mods even made it into the base game.
That being said, here as well it is up to the dev, if they don't want modding in their game then that's totally fair too.
And a vocal enough community can also kill a project right in the crib after the author realizes that their fanbase wants to take a creation in a direction they don't want to go... and the project isn't mature enough to support it being turned over to the modding community. So at this point, the creator can either choose to ignore the vocal community, give in and take their project in that direction before they inevitably burn out, or just... sort of lose all passion for the project and let it die on the vine.

Of course, the vocal community never sees itself as responsible for killing off a project just by their very presence. They just see themselves as customers requesting a feature, and that requests don't have any real costs even if they're turned down.

The entitlement of it all.
 
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