BlasKyau

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Thanks for the game.

I see blackmail in the tags and corruption, drugs, futa/trans, humiliation, slave, spanking and mind control in planned content. Will this things be the main fetises of the game? I really dislike some of them (blackmail, slave, drugs, mind control, futa/trans and humiliation) and corruption is something that I only like if is light, Spanking is something that I not really like, but if I can skip the scenes it's enough.
 
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Can you put some gestures on android version so we can hide the textbox if swipe down the screen when there's a scene happening.
 
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I see that prostitution is planed for a harem game? Hmm im not a fan of that in my harem game or even stripping and hell no to the futa/trans stuff. Think you need to limit what you do as to not step on to many toes. Get a clear idea and stick with it. Harem incest lovers will only take so many kinks. Think I will just watch this for now as I expect this might be a ok game as long as it dose not go to far.
 

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Adding this to the "up-and-comers" list. Good characters and dialogue, enjoyable humor thrown in here and there, and I am a complete sucker for blondes with ponytails. Can't wait to see where this goes.
 
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Thanks for the game.

I see blackmail in the tags and corruption, drugs, futa/trans, humiliation, slave, spanking and mind control in planned content. Will this things be the main fetises of the game? I really dislike some of them (blackmail, slave, drugs, mind control, futa/trans and humiliation) and corruption is something that I only like if is light, Spanking is something that I not really like, but if I can skip the scenes it's enough.
All of those tags are gonna be completely avoidable. They are not the main fetishes of the game. :)
Can you put some gestures on android version so we can hide the textbox if swipe down the screen when there's a scene happening.
I've added a button to hide text on android in v0.2.0. It was supposed to come out a few hours ago, but i my pc was having trouble building it. It will be out today :)
I see that prostitution is planed for a harem game? Hmm im not a fan of that in my harem game or even stripping and hell no to the futa/trans stuff. Think you need to limit what you do as to not step on to many toes. Get a clear idea and stick with it. Harem incest lovers will only take so many kinks. Think I will just watch this for now as I expect this might be a ok game as long as it dose not go to far.
I do have a clear idea about how the story goes here. While it is a harem game, the route it takes isn't as 'easy' as most others. Most tags like prostitution are avoidable.
Adding this to the "up-and-comers" list. Good characters and dialogue, enjoyable humor thrown in here and there, and I am a complete sucker for blondes with ponytails. Can't wait to see where this goes.
Thanks! You won't be disappointed ;)
The changelog for the new release implies an Android version of 0.2.0, but I only see an Android release for 0.1.0.
Yeah, sorry about that. I wanted to release 0.2.0 for android along with the other platforms, but my pc ran into a problem while building it. It will be out today!
I see multiple penetration tag. Is that MMF gangbang or MTF gangbang?
The one in the current version is an avoidable MMF scene.
What else are the 'necessary' scenes for the dark themes.
Physical abuse, blackmail, drugs and (maybe) mind control are planned so far.
 

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All of those tags are gonna be completely avoidable. They are not the main fetishes of the game. :)

I've added a button to hide text on android in v0.2.0. It was supposed to come out a few hours ago, but i my pc was having trouble building it. It will be out today :)

I do have a clear idea about how the story goes here. While it is a harem game, the route it takes isn't as 'easy' as most others. Most tags like prostitution are avoidable.

Thanks! You won't be disappointed ;)

Yeah, sorry about that. I wanted to release 0.2.0 for android along with the other platforms, but my pc ran into a problem while building it. It will be out today!

The one in the current version is an avoidable MMF scene.

Physical abuse, blackmail, drugs and (maybe) mind control are planned so far.
That would be great if some things were avoidable. :)
 
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Soooooo ive start the game and what do i need to change to get Iris to be my lil sister? cause every line of dialogue it said that shes my BF..


...................................im blind i didnt see the incest patch... maybe moving it to the bottom of the main thread to make it more visible? lol
 
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Also, for the record, there's no rape in my game :LOL:
The blackmail thingy with Claire is borderline rape in my book. She's not happy about the threesome and she clearly shows it. She agreed to it because she felt her hand was forced... o_O

My best guess is that they do it to add some depth to the character, and make their behaviour more believable. That same sense of realism can't be achieved by other, lighter events.
It's entirely possible to do heavy stuff without things getting sexual...^^ With adult VN, there is sometimes some kind of "porn logic" that is applied turning a dark past into blackmail/rape in order to add more adult content. I think it's a little over the top to state those are needed to add more depth to a story or characters. I mean, they can do the trick obviously but so can a lot of other traumatic events that we can face in life.

You should just tell your story the way you see fit and stick to your guns but please don't come up with weird excuses when you're defending your vision :p Especially since the dark past comes with lots of animations! If it was only for drama/character's depth purposes, it would have been more tasteful with a few still renders (if the shock value is important to you) when her past comes up (but good writing and mise-en-scène without going graphically into the "gory" details can also do the trick ^^). Here, you did go for the home run so it kinda becomes more gratuitous and pleasing for those who are into fetishes a little more "risque" ;)

The one in the current version is an avoidable MMF scene.
It's your game but I'm pretty sure it's skippable instead of avoidable in the F95's jargon :p This is something that has happened in the past so nothing we can do to prevent it and please don't mind those who ask to make it avoidable, it wouldn't make any sense unless the MC has some kind of godly power that allows him to change the past...^^ I'm definitely not a fan of this kind of content and would prefer a gentler/more subtle touch to depict a gruesome past but I'd be more bothered if Claire's persona changes if you know about her past or not (you can look at the sex tape or not but it did happen so she should bare the scar so to speak).

And speaking of the difference between avoidable and skippable, could you mention in your current/planned tags if those are avoidable or skippable in a parenthesis or something? People are gonna "jump at your throat" a lot less on the subject if things are transparent and accessible in the first post :) Plus, it might do you good on the Patreon side since people can get apprehensive instead of hopeful while waiting for the next updates when they don't know if you're gonna force them into fetishes they do not like.


Anyway, despite a few planned tags that give me pause, the game looks promising so I thank you for your hard work. The number of renders that you managed to squeeze in only two updates is damn impressive and you seem pretty quick to deliver so we definitely have things to look forward to! :giggle:
 

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The blackmail thingy with Claire is borderline rape in my book. She's not happy about the threesome and she clearly shows it. She agreed to it because she felt her hand was forced... o_O
I guess that's one way to put it.
It's entirely possible to do heavy stuff without things getting sexual...^^ With adult VN, there is sometimes some kind of "porn logic" that is applied turning a dark past into blackmail/rape in order to add more adult content. I think it's a little over the top to state those are needed to add more depth to a story or characters. I mean, they can do the trick obviously but so can a lot of other traumatic events that we can face in life.

You should just tell your story the way you see fit and stick to your guns but please don't come up with weird excuses when you're defending your vision :p Especially since the dark past comes with lots of animations! If it was only for drama/character's depth purposes, it would have been more tasteful with a few still renders (if the shock value is important to you) when her past comes up (but good writing and mise-en-scène without going graphically into the "gory" details can also do the trick ^^). Here, you did go for the home run so it kinda becomes more gratuitous and pleasing for those who are into fetishes a little more "risque" ;)
Heh. You got me there! :LOL: While it is still, in my opinion, a character-defining event, I did use it as an excuse to add another lewd scene to the game.
I agree that there are other traumatic events that could have been used instead, but in my opinion this fits the best (for the current case, of course. Not in general.)
Call it an excuse, if you will. That is my honest opinion :)
It's your game but I'm pretty sure it's skippable instead of avoidable in the F95's jargon :p This is something that has happened in the past so nothing we can do to prevent it and please don't mind those who ask to make it avoidable, it wouldn't make any sense unless the MC has some kind of godly power that allows him to change the past...^^ I'm definitely not a fan of this kind of content and would prefer a gentler/more subtle touch to depict a gruesome past but I'd be more bothered if Claire's persona changes if you know about her past or not (you can look at the sex tape or not but it did happen so she should bare the scar so to speak).

And speaking of the difference between avoidable and skippable, could you mention in your current/planned tags if those are avoidable or skippable in a parenthesis or something? People are gonna "jump at your throat" a lot less on the subject if things are transparent and accessible in the first post :) Plus, it might do you good on the Patreon side since people can get apprehensive instead of hopeful while waiting for the next updates when they don't know if you're gonna force them into fetishes they do not like.


Anyway, despite a few planned tags that give me pause, the game looks promising so I thank you for your hard work. The number of renders that you managed to squeeze in only two updates is damn impressive and you seem pretty quick to deliver so we definitely have things to look forward to! :giggle:
Aaaaand now I feel dumb not using the terms 'skippable' and 'avoidable' to clarify it for everyone who asked. Yes, you're right. The scene in the current version is skippable, and it is gonna stay that way. Can't alter the past! Also, whether you look at it or not, she's gonna have the same persona. It is what it is.

I will categorize all planned tags as avoidable and skippable, thats a great idea!

I hope the game evolves into something most, if not all people would like. If you've got any suggestions, please do let me know.

Cheers!
 

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Aaaaand now I feel dumb not using the terms 'skippable' and 'avoidable' to clarify it for everyone who asked. Yes, you're right. The scene in the current version is skippable, and it is gonna stay that way. Can't alter the past! Also, whether you look at it or not, she's gonna have the same persona. It is what it is.
I'm have lack of interest in remember sex scenes, dreams and voyerism, I prefer to skip them (if it isn't possible, I press the skip button). In fact, if the scene is a rape, and I can't skip (avoid to see) it I'm sure that I close the game and delete it (Is the ussual thing that I do in this cases).

But this is just my thing, I'm sure a lot of people like this kind of scenes.
 
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I'm have lack of interest in remember sex scenes, dreams and voyerism, I prefer to skip them (if it isn't possible, I press the skip button). In fact, if the scene is a rape, and I can't skip (avoid to see) it I'm sure that I close the game and delete it (Is the ussual thing that I do in this cases).

But this is just my thing, I'm sure a lot of people like this kind of scenes.
I do understand why you would do that, not everyone is into everything. :)
If you're okay with scenes being skippable instead of avoidable, then this game might be worth considering for ya. ;)
 

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Heh. You got me there! :LOL: While it is still, in my opinion, a character-defining event, I did use it as an excuse to add another lewd scene to the game.
And porn logic strikes again! :p But at least, I liked the MC's reaction when looking at the sex tape. He's pissed right off and wants to rip off the culprits' dicks. If he reacted like a creep by jerking off, that would have been more upsetting (it's not really the kind of MC I would want to incarnate ^^).

I agree that there are other traumatic events that could have been used instead, but in my opinion this fits the best (for the current case, of course. Not in general.)
And I don't doubt it since I don't really know how you want to develop Claire's character (maybe she's seen as damaged goods now and the MC will be the one not seeing her as tainted or an easy lay but as a lover... Or maybe she can't trust men anymore but since the MC has seen the video, his protective instincts are gonna kicked in if she finds herself in a dire situation and this time, the worst will be avoidable instead of skippable :p I mean, there are a lot of options I guess...^^). I was speaking in a more general manner since the statement was initially about "why so many devs put this kind of backstory in their VN".


Aaaaand now I feel dumb not using the terms 'skippable' and 'avoidable' to clarify it for everyone who asked. Yes, you're right. The scene in the current version is skippable, and it is gonna stay that way. Can't alter the past! Also, whether you look at it or not, she's gonna have the same persona. It is what it is.

I will categorize all planned tags as avoidable and skippable, thats a great idea!
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I hope the game evolves into something most, if not all people would like. If you've got any suggestions, please do let me know.
I'm mostly curious about what you have in store for us and I hope the MC will have some kind of control over present events.

Good luck for the next iteration of your game and thank you for your participation over here. It's always nice to be able to exchange a few words with the devs. I know there is often more bitterness than gratitude in comments when a game starts cause it doesn't meet some players' expectations but don't let it weigh you down! ;) From your answers, it looks like you have a thick skin so I'm not worried! :giggle:

In fact, if the scene is a rape, and I can't skip (avoid to see) it I'm sure that I close the game and delete it (Is the ussual thing that I do in this cases).
The scene is skippable so you can go ahead ;) This is a sextape (blackmail MMF) and you choose if the MC is curious enough to look at it (since at this point, it's only hearsay from his friend Lucas).
 
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The scene is skippable so you can go ahead ;) This is a sextape (blackmail MMF) and you choose if the MC is curious enough to look at it (since at this point, it's only hearsay from his friend Lucas).
I do understand why you would do that, not everyone is into everything. :)
If you're okay with scenes being skippable instead of avoidable, then this game might be worth considering for ya. ;)
Thanks for the answer.

At now I'm download the game, and I think that I will try it today or tomorrow.
 

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Syko134 you said this mmf scene is avoidable. But the thing is it still happens in the story. You just don't watch it. Tbh it's kinda scummy thing to do. Like it's no different than watching the scene. We already know it happens whether we watch it or not. It's not different than holding ctrl button. Like if you wanna put a ntr scene where mc's love interest gets gangbanged by other dudes then either make it totally optional/avoidable ( which means it does or doesn't happen in the story depending of your choice) or just fully show the scene without a skip button. Also this game looked like my type of game and I really really like it at first but that scene is totally turned me off about the game sadly. Another comedical thing is before mc even got a real sex, he watches one of the love interest getting gangbanged in a video... the game is quite long even tho it's just 0.2 but all the sexual content mc has in his dreams... Anyways I hope you consider to add 'ntr' tag or at least a warning in the op soon so other people who hates ntr won't be dissapointed when they reach that part of the game. Because for many people this kind of scene is a ntr content no matter if it happened on past or not. For me I went from 'I should support this guy on patreon' to ' should I put this game on ignore list' after I see that scene. I still very much like the game and if this 'your love interest getting fucked by other dudes regardless of your choices but you don't have to watch it' shit won't continue and the game won't go into ntr-sharing-cuckold path I will try to give it one more chance. Good luck with the game
 
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I hope the game evolves into something most, if not all people would like. If you've got any suggestions, please do let me know.
I do have a suggestion for you on this actually; take a look at Aesop's "The Man, the Boy, and the Donkey" ( )

But seriously, consider narrowing your idea for the game a bit. Not even due to the fact that some people won't like certain parts, but because 10 partial focuses can't beat 1 thorough, complete one. If my days as a software developer taught me anything, its that planning tons of features increased project time exponentially. And more often than not, it led to missed deadlines or cancellations.

Syko134 you said this mmf scene is avoidable. But the thing is it still happens in the story. You just don't watch it. Tbh it's kinda scummy thing to do. Like it's no different than watching the scene. We already know it happens whether we watch it or not. It's not different than holding ctrl button. Like if you wanna put a ntr scene where mc's love interest gets gangbanged by other dudes then either make it totally optional/avoidable ( which means it does or doesn't happen in the story depending of your choice) or just fully show the scene without a skip button. Also this game looked like my type of game at first but that scene is totally turned me off about the game sadly. Another comedical thing is before mc even got a real sex, he watches one of the love interest getting gangbanged in a video... Anyways I hope you consider to add 'ntr' tag (or a warning in op) as well soon so other people who hates ntr won't be dissapointed or waste their time on it. Because for many people this kind of scene is a ntr content no matter if it happened on past or not. good luck with the game.
That's kind of unfair, especially since Chloe hasn't been flirted with or even engaged all that much. And there was the warning prompt in-game before viewing the scene, along with the option to skip it. Regardless, character development often involves tragedy in the past that has left scars, and the potential for a redemptive, healing arc is clear.
 
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