VN Ren'Py Turning the Page [v0.26.0 Patreon] [Azienda]

[ItsNotUs]

Yeah it's the only time he sent him a video (or if you want to be technical, an "anonymous" person sent him that video lol). But again, he didn't do it out of spite towards Felix. It was just a way to distract Felix so he could have some time with Sophie. And it worked lol.

Zack knows that Felix saw his personal files. That's why he removed everything except the video with Sophia and a woman who looked like her! And he did this especially for Felix! Anonymous or not, he sent Felix a blowjob video on purpose! And he sent the photo, in the last update, specifically to Nate because he suspected that Felix might see it!
Here the question arises: did Nate accidentally show this photo to Felix or is he also involved in this "adventure"?
We know for sure that Ammy is involved. Brooks also knows or suspects what is happening and he still somehow tries to help Felix. God knows how many people are involved!
And the fact that Felix's predecessor quit and had problems with his wife and most likely with Zack.
Zack not only steals other people's wives, but also destroys the lives of their husbands, he has some dirt on Brooks!
So I assure you 200% that he specifically sends Felix videos and photos!
-Motive one: Cloud Felix mind, so that he would be tormented by the thought that this is not his wife, but is so similar to her and each time he will doubt more and more!
-Second motive: Destroy Felix mentally and physically! What did he say when they were the role play? "Even if Mr. Crystal comes to save you, he doesn’t have the strength to do it, i can stop him with my bare hands!" Or something like that! Those. he hinted at physical violence against Felix!
-The third motive: Its not the first time Zach do all this! He has problems at his last school! And Brooks clearly knows which ones and Felix’s former predecessor too!

 

[ItsNotUs]

I don't think it's that Zack wants him to see it, it's just a matter of he doesn't care if he sees it. He didn't send him that video as a "look at your girl giving me a blowjob" type deal, it was a "I need something that will totally catch him off guard" type deal. His main agenda was to get Felix's keys so Felix couldn't disturb his private time with Sophie.

If Zack really wanted to get in Felix's mind with that video, he would of sent something else. That video did nothing to phase Felix to make him think it was Sophie in any way. He just assumed it was porn spam. It was a distraction, nothing else.

Zack wants Felix to see this, while he doesn’t show everything to torment Felix, by doing it on purpose!

 

[NTR Sommelier]

I don't think it's that Zack wants him to see it, it's just a matter of he doesn't care if he sees it. He didn't send him that video as a "look at your girl giving me a blowjob" type deal, it was a "I need something that will totally catch him off guard" type deal. His main agenda was to get Felix's keys so Felix couldn't disturb his private time with Sophie.

If Zack really wanted to get in Felix's mind with that video, he would of sent something else. That video did nothing to phase Felix to make him think it was Sophie in any way. He just assumed it was porn spam. It was a distraction, nothing else.

If he just wanted a distraction he would have sent any other porn video. He sent that one in particular because:
a) Felix thinking it might be Sophie would be more effective
b) He enjoys teasing Felix
There are many other ways to see the nature of Zack, like in the game night where he fingered Sophie right in front of Felix, what other reason to risk it, except to humiliate Felix? The cg even shows Zack is smilling towards Felix. He enjoys what he is doing to Felix. Or maybe the superhero roleplay, where "Amethyst" was saying that he would crush "Crystal Man". Why else he would say thay if he doesn't enjoy the thought of destroying Felix? It seems thay you are not looking at the facts in an objective manner, but rather you don't want Zack to be this way, but that is what he is.

 

[SpyderArachnid]

(didn't want to do a bunch of multi-quotes to make this a confusing mess, so just responding in general lol)

If Zack wanted Felix to see the videos, he would have sent them to him. He's done it before, so he obviously has Felix's number (the blowjob video) so why not send them directly instead of uploading them to his personal drive? He has no guarantee that Felix will ever see those videos, so why not just send them directly?

As for the Nate picture, how could Zack possibly even know that Felix would see it? He sent it to Nate. If he wanted Felix to see it, he would of sent it directly to him. There is no way Zack would know that Felix would see that picture. Zack is a jock, not some genius mastermind.

ItsNotUs A lot of stuff you are mentioning is stuff we don't even know. That is a lot of speculation. None of that is in the game and is just thoughts of what people think might be going on. We don't know if Amy, Brooks, or Nate is involved whatsoever. There is nothing in game yet that shows them being involved. There is no definite answer to what happened to his predecessor or that it involved his wife with Zack. This is all just speculation on what might have happened.

NTR Sommelier Does Zack have a bunch of other porn videos on his phone? I assume he just scrolled through, found one of him getting a blowjob and sent it. The video doesn't have any way to show that it might be Sophie at all, so him trying to make Felix think it is Sophie was a wasted effort. All Felix thought of that video was that it was porn spam. So, if that was Zack's intentions, he failed miserably at making Felix think it was Sophie.

As for the fingering scene, how would that humiliate Felix? Felix was blindfolded and invested in a game. That did absolutely nothing to Felix, as he had no idea it even happened. If anything, it messed with Sophie. It was Zack having some risky adventure with Sophie. If Zack wanted to mess with Felix, he would have made it more obvious.

And believe me, I get it. It's an NTR game. But I'm judging this game based on the game alone and what is presented in the game. You guys are judging this game based on speculation and the dev's previous games. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. We don't know, as the game hasn't gotten along far enough for us to know it's true intentions yet.

 

[ItsNotUs]

(didn't want to do a bunch of multi-quotes to make this a confusing mess, so just responding in general lol)

If Zack wanted Felix to see the videos, he would have sent them to him. He's done it before, so he obviously has Felix's number (the blowjob video) so why not send them directly instead of uploading them to his personal drive? He has no guarantee that Felix will ever see those videos, so why not just send them directly?

As for the Nate picture, how could Zack possibly even know that Felix would see it? He sent it to Nate. If he wanted Felix to see it, he would of sent it directly to him. There is no way Zack would know that Felix would see that picture. Zack is a jock, not some genius mastermind.

ItsNotUs A lot of stuff you are mentioning is stuff we don't even know. That is a lot of speculation. None of that is in the game and is just thoughts of what people think might be going on. We don't know if Amy, Brooks, or Nate is involved whatsoever. There is nothing in game yet that shows them being involved. There is no definite answer to what happened to his predecessor or that it involved his wife with Zack. This is all just speculation on what might have happened.

NTR Sommelier Does Zack have a bunch of other porn videos on his phone? I assume he just scrolled through, found one of him getting a blowjob and sent it. The video doesn't have any way to show that it might be Sophie at all, so him trying to make Felix think it is Sophie was a wasted effort. All Felix thought of that video was that it was porn spam. So, if that was Zack's intentions, he failed miserably at making Felix think it was Sophie.

As for the fingering scene, how would that humiliate Felix? Felix was blindfolded and invested in a game. That did absolutely nothing to Felix, as he had no idea it even happened. If anything, it messed with Sophie. It was Zack having some risky adventure with Sophie. If Zack wanted to mess with Felix, he would have made it more obvious.

And believe me, I get it. It's an NTR game. But I'm judging this game based on the game alone and what is presented in the game. You guys are judging this game based on speculation and the dev's previous games. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. We don't know, as the game hasn't gotten along far enough for us to know it's true intentions yet.

I repeat once again: Zack knows that Felix dug into his personal files, he knows it! He specifically uploads videos with Sophia in which it is not clear that it is her, because her face is not visible! Specially to torture Felix, not just like that, but specially!
Zack knew that Felix and Nate were standing in line, even if it wasn’t in the game, but obviously Sophia told him about it, and if Nate was involved here, everything becomes logical, Nate himself make that Zack knew that Felix was next to him!
Ammy is involved in this 100%. Brooks to, if he doesn’t know the whole truth, he can guess! Brooks saw Sophia and Zack enter the same room, updated with a trip to another city for a match. Brooks knows why Felix's predecessor quit, Brooks knows why Zack was kicked out of his previous school! But despite this he chose it because Zack is a good-top athlete and can attract additional support from sponsors! But Zack has dirt on Brooks and has leverage!
Remember the update on Valentine's Day! Brooks deliberately left Felix to work late, thereby Felix broke his promise to Sophia and then he saw how Felix was suffering and fighting for Sophia, and his conscience awoke and he let him go, but it was too late, check and mate! Sophia, upset, sits in the park and out of nowhere Zack appears, Well, Well, he just fell from the sky! Oh, what a surprise Ammy left him on the same day!

Are these coincidences or are you just not seeing the facts?

P.S: Zack can't send anything directly to Felix, yet! Because if he does that, he will lose Sophia! If her body already completely belongs to Zack, then her soul is still fighting for Felix!

 

[SpyderArachnid]

I repeat once again: Zack knows that Felix dug into his personal files, he knows it! He specifically uploads videos with Sophia in which it is not clear that it is her, because her face is not visible! Specially to torture Felix, not just like that, but specially!
Zack knew that Felix and Nate were standing in line, even if it wasn’t in the game, but obviously Sophia told him about it, and if Nate was involved here, everything becomes logical, Nate himself make that Zack knew that Felix was next to him!
Emma is involved in this 100%. Brooks to, if he doesn’t know the whole truth, can guess! Brooks saw Sophia and Zack enter the same room, updated with a trip to another city for a match. Brooks knows why Felix's predecessor quit, Brooks knows why Zack was kicked out of his previous school! But despite this he chose it because Zack is a good-top athlete and can attract additional support from sponsors! But Zack has dirt on Brooks and has leverage!
Remember the update on Valentine's Day! Brooks deliberately left Felix to work late, thereby Felix broke his promise to Sophia
and then he saw how Felix was suffering and fighting for Sophia, and his conscience awoke and he let him go, but it was too late, check and mate! Sophia, upset, sits in the park and out of nowhere Zack appears, Well, Well, he just fell from the sky! Oh, what a surprise Ammy left him on the same day!

Are these coincidences or are you just not seeing the facts?

P.S: Zack can't send anything directly to Felix, yet! Because if he does that, he will lose Sofia! If her body already completely belongs to Zack, then her soul is still fighting for Felix!

I mean, again, a lot of stuff you are saying is speculation. This stuff isn't stated as facts in the game at all. This is just what you believe is going on, not facts. We don't have a Zack perspective, so a lot of that stuff we don't even know.

And Zack has no idea that Felix is standing in line with Nate. Sophie left and got a text from Zack to tell her to come to the hotel where he is. Again, you're just speculating. You even said yourself it's not in the game, so you're just throwing your own thoughts out as facts.

You're saying I'm not seeing the facts, but the "facts" that you are throwing out are just speculation and not actually in the game.

 

[ItsNotUs]

I mean, again, a lot of stuff you are saying is speculation. This stuff isn't stated as facts in the game at all. This is just what you believe is going on, not facts. We don't have a Zack perspective, so a lot of that stuff we don't even know.

And Zack has no idea that Felix is standing in line with Nate. Sophie left and got a text from Zack to tell her to come to the hotel where he is. Again, you're just speculating. You even said yourself it's not in the game, so you're just throwing your own thoughts out as facts.

You're saying I'm not seeing the facts, but the "facts" that you are throwing out are just speculation and not actually in the game.

Everything you wrote can only be applied to the question of whether Zack knew that Felix was in line with Nate or not!

Everything else is in the GAME!!!

 

[SpyderArachnid]

Everything you wrote can only be applied to the question of whether Zack knew that Felix was in line with Nate or not!

Everything else is in the GAME!!!

He has no idea. It's in game. Like literally in the game that he has no idea that Felix is with Nate. He isn't even at the convention center when he texts Sophie. He literally says he wants to show her something before he heads to the convention, meaning he is not there. Sophie doesn't even tell him that they are together (Felix and Nate).

So unless Zack has some super powered binoculars that can see through walls from the hotel to the convention, he doesn't know. And Nate clearly didn't tell him, as we would of seen it via Felix's perspective when he was with Nate.

As for "everything else is in the game", show me. You are claiming everything you said is in the game, so prove it. Prove it's not just speculation and your own thoughts of what is happening.

 

[ItsNotUs]

He has no idea. It's in game. Like literally in the game that he has no idea that Felix is with Nate. He isn't even at the convention center when he texts Sophie. He literally says he wants to show her something before he heads to the convention, meaning he is not there. Sophie doesn't even tell him that they are together (Felix and Nate).

So unless Zack has some super powered binoculars that can see through walls from the hotel to the convention, he doesn't know. And Nate clearly didn't tell him, as we would of seen it via Felix's perspective when he was with Nate.

As for "everything else in in the game", show me. You are claiming everything you said is in the game, so prove it. Prove it's not just speculation and your own thoughts of what is happening.

Dude, i'm tired of arguing with you and proving obvious things!
"Show me"? - Seriously!?
I will not replay dozens of hours of the game to take screenshots with facts!
I suggest we leave this dispute, otherwise it will lead to conflict.
Write a PM to the dev, he recently wrote on the forum, i think he can answer your questions more clearly!

 

[SpyderArachnid]

Dude, i'm tired of arguing with you and proving obvious things!
"Show me"? - Seriously!?
I will not replay dozens of hours of the game to take screenshots with facts!
I suggest we leave this dispute, otherwise it will lead to conflict.
Write a PM to the dev, he recently wrote on the forum, i think he can answer your questions more clearly!

So, you can't actually prove anything you are saying as facts. If you're going to sit here and try to make claims and prove it as facts, you have to be able to back up said claims. It doesn't take hours; it takes a couple minutes. Cause you obviously know these as facts, so you know exactly where these claims that you make are in the game, so you should be able to easily skip to them and screenshot them since you know about them already. Right?

But it's alright. I don't expect you to do that, because you really would be searching forever, since they are not actually in the game. It's all just speculation and not actually in the game.

And I'm not arguing with you here. Just having a discussion is all. I have no reason to PM the dev about this, as there are no questions needing to be answered. We are just discussing the game. No hard feelings on my end. I just like engaging with the community is all.

 

[ItsNotUs]

So, you can't actually prove anything you are saying as facts. If you're going to sit here and try to make claims and prove it as facts, you have to be able to back up said claims. It doesn't take hours; it takes a couple minutes. Cause you obviously know these as facts, so you know exactly where these claims that you make are in the game, so you should be able to easily skip to them and screenshot them since you know about them already. Right?

But it's alright. I don't expect you to do that, because you really would be searching forever, since they are not actually in the game. It's all just speculation and not actually in the game.

And I'm not arguing with you here. Just having a discussion is all. I have no reason to PM the dev about this, as there are no questions needing to be answered. We are just discussing the game. No hard feelings on my end. I just like engaging with the community is all.

Well, if you replay the game from the very beginning without skipping, carefully, to pick up enough facts for someone like you, to prove something, it takes a couple of minutes, then go ahead and prove the opposite!
If not, then - I’m telling you, for now, as a normal person - let’s end this argument, because it doesn’t lead anywhere!
It's like explaining to a blind person how to get to the next street!
Mister dev Azienda , can you judge us, if it’s not difficult for you? Please!

 

[SpyderArachnid]

Well, if you replay the game from the very beginning without skipping, carefully, to pick up enough facts for someone like you, to prove something, it takes a couple of minutes, then go ahead and prove the opposite!
If not, then - I’m telling you, for now, as a normal person - let’s end this argument, because it doesn’t lead anywhere!
It's like explaining to a blind person how to get to the next street!
Mister dev Azienda , can you judge us, if it’s not difficult for you? Please!

The problem is, you're claiming your own thoughts about the game as facts. You are so dead set that they are in the game, yet you can't seem to provide any proof that they are. If you know they are in the game, then you should know where at in the game they are. So it shouldn't be that difficult to skip to where they are, and then get the proof you need, since you know for definite that they are in the game.

Where is it in game that it says that Amy, Nate, and Brooks all know what Zack is doing and are working with him to destroy Felix's life? Where is the conspiracy in game that Brooks is part of Zack's plan to torture Felix? Where is it in game that Zack knows that Nate is standing in line with Felix at the convention? And where does Sophie tell him? Where does it say Felix's predecessor left because of Zack being involved with his wife? Where does it say Zack steals other people's wives and destroys their husbands?

You claim Amy is 100% working with Zack. Why would she? Sophie and Felix are her friends, and you say she is working with Zack to destroy Felix's life. Where does it say that in the game?

You make all these claims and state them as facts. Yet none of it is in the game. This is just you speculating on what you think is going on. That doesn't make them facts.

Look, there is nothing wrong with speculating. Half of the discussion here is what we think might happen or what we think might be going on. It's fun speculating. But trying to pass them off as facts? If you want to discuss facts, then discuss facts. If you want to speculate, then speculate. But don't try to claim your speculations as facts.

And sure, we can stop discussing this. You kind of dug yourself a hole there and can't get out. I get it. You can't prove something that doesn't exist, so the discussion is pretty much over.

 

[ItsNotUs]

The problem is, you're claiming your own thoughts about the game as facts. You are so dead set that they are in the game, yet you can't seem to provide any proof that they are. If you know they are in the game, then you should know where at in the game they are. So it shouldn't be that difficult to skip to where they are, and then get the proof you need, since you know for definite that they are in the game.

Where is it in game that it says that Amy, Nate, and Brooks all know what Zack is doing and are working with him to destroy Felix's life? Where is the conspiracy in game that Brooks is part of Zack's plan to torture Felix? Where is it in game that Zack knows that Nate is standing in line with Felix at the convention? And where does Sophie tell him? Where does it say Felix's predecessor left because of Zack being involved with his wife? Where does it say Zack steals other people's wives and destroys their husbands?

You claim Amy is 100% working with Zack. Why would she? Sophie and Felix are her friends, and you say she is working with Zack to destroy Felix's life. Where does it say that in the game?

You make all these claims and state them as facts. Yet none of it is in the game. This is just you speculating on what you think is going on. That doesn't make them facts.

Look, there is nothing wrong with speculating. Half of the discussion here is what we think might happen or what we think might be going on. It's fun speculating. But trying to pass them off as facts? If you want to discuss facts, then discuss facts. If you want to speculate, then speculate. But don't try to claim your speculations as facts.

And sure, we can stop discussing this. You kind of dug yourself a hole there and can't get out. I get it. You can't prove something that doesn't exist, so the discussion is pretty much over.

Replay the game carefully!
If you think that i remember when who said what or this, or that text, and what update it was in, then you are completely out of your mind!
If you don't believe me, that's fine! Stop arguing with me!
If you don’t want to take off your rose-colored glasses and for you all the events in the game are an accident, and Zack is not manipulating anyone, then so be it! Live with it yourself!
If you don’t want to ask the devs, okay - but i’ve already asked him, to judge our dispute, and if he does, then we’ll find out who is right or wrong, or we’ll wait for the end of the game, but for now your words are just Nonsense!

 

[ItsNotUs]

Why should I have to go fetch your proof for you? That's not on me, that's on you. I'm not the one who needs to prove anything. If you don't know who said what or when or any of that, then how can you say that what you said is in the game? If you don't know it is there, then how can you claim it is? You just negated yourself.

And you think the dev is just going to come in here and spoil the game for everyone by telling us everything just to settle some dispute? I'm pretty sure the dev isn't going to spoil their game over this little discussion.

The game isn't far along enough for us to know any of that kind of information. This is a matter of "We'll just have to wait and see". The dev isn't going to come in here and tell us everything and spoil their story just to settle this discussion. I don't know what you're thinking is going to happen there, but that's not it lol.

Either way, I was just having a discussion about this, but you seem to want to argue and insult. Funny as you were the one who wanted to stop but kept replying. Have to get that last word in, eh? Nothing more to be said in the end.

Your words are empty!!!
Not long ago you claimed that Zack did not send any video to Felix! You!

I tried to see clues in that video that would point to Sophia! What i was able to see was a green floor, the same floor is visible in the game in the background in this study room, here are the facts for You - but continue with your heresy!

 

[SpyderArachnid]

Your words are empty!!!
Not long ago you claimed that Zack did not send any video to Felix! You!

I tried to see clues in that video that would point to Sophia! What i was able to see was a green floor, the same floor is visible in the game in the background in this study room, here are the facts for You - but continue with your heresy!

No, we were talking about the computer videos at the time, and Zack didn't send those to Felix. They were stored on his personal drive. Then when you mentioned the blowjob video, I agreed with you and said that yes, that is the only video he sent to Felix. Because that is true. Not sure what you are going on about. You were right about that, and I already agreed with you. Why bring that up now and try to play it off as I didn't agree and change my words?

If anything we have learned already, is the images are not consistent from both perspectives. Like for instance, the new image in the latest update. The phone image is missing the vibrators, while at the time of Zack taking the picture, she had the vibrators on. Artwork is not consistent.

I don't know which one of your "facts" you're trying to prove there, but a green floor doesn't mean anything.

It seems you wish to continue this discussion, so by all means, keep going.

 

[ItsNotUs]

No, we were talking about the computer videos at the time, and Zack didn't send those to Felix. They were stored on his personal drive. Then when you mentioned the blowjob video, I agreed with you and said that yes, that is the only video he sent to Felix. Because that is true. Not sure what you are going on about. You were right about that, and I already agreed with you. Why bring that up now and try to play it off as I didn't agree and change my words?

If anything we have learned already, is the images are not consistent from both perspectives. Like for instance, the new image in the latest update. The phone image is missing the vibrators, while at the time of Zack taking the picture, she had the vibrators on. Artwork is not consistent.

I don't know which one of your "facts" you're trying to prove there, but a green floor doesn't mean anything.

It seems you wish to continue this discussion, so by all means, keep going.

"Zack isn't sending him the videos directly." - These are your words!
You can be disappointed or not, it’s up to you!

 

[SpyderArachnid]

"Zack isn't sending him the videos directly." - These are your words!
You can be disappointed or not, it’s up to you!

And you're taking it out of context. Because if you saw what I was responding to, you would see we were talking about videos. You know, as in plural. Meaning, multiple videos. You even quoted me saying "videos". You know, as in plural.

Then you brought up the blowjob video. As in, video. You know, singular. And I agreed with you as that was the only video that was actually sent to Felix. The other videos (you know, as in plural) were on Zack's personal storage.

The person I was responding to said that Zack had sent Felix videos, you know, as in plural. So I said he didn't send him videos (you know, as in plural). He sent him one video (you know, as in singular).

But keep making things worse for yourself.

 

[SpyderArachnid]

Excuses won't help you!
One video or several does not matter, the fact remains that Zack sent Felix a video!
What should I talk to you about? I suggested that we leave the debate and wait for an authoritative opinion, but it looks like you have a bullet in your head!

You're seriously just reaching now. Trying to find anything to hold on to as you fall deeper, eh?

And yes, Zack did send Felix a video. I already agreed to that. You're the one who took my words out of context and tried to flip it around to fit your argument. I was being specific in the difference between videos and video. That was the point of my response to the person I was responding to. Now you're just trying to remove all of that to fit your personal reasoning.

I already said I was done with the discussion because you just kept digging your hole deeper and deeper with each response (which you are still doing). You're the one who wanted to keep this discussion going. You're expecting the dev to come in here and spoil everything just to settle a debate about this stuff, which is a lost cause.

Just leave it at that and wait for the next update where we can all learn more about what is going on, instead of expecting the dev to come in here and spoil it all for you just to settle "your argument".

 

[Zarkhy]

You're seriously just reaching now. Trying to find anything to hold on to as you fall deeper, eh?

And yes, Zack did send Felix a video. I already agreed to that. You're the one who took my words out of context and tried to flip it around to fit your argument. I was being specific in the difference between videos and video. That was the point of my response to the person I was responding to. Now you're just trying to remove all of that to fit your personal reasoning.

I already said I was done with the discussion because you just kept digging your hole deeper and deeper with each response (which you are still doing). You're the one who wanted to keep this discussion going. You're expecting the dev to come in here and spoil everything just to settle a debate about this stuff, which is a lost cause.

Just leave it at that and wait for the next update where we can all learn more about what is going on, instead of expecting the dev to come in here and spoil it all for you just to settle "your argument".

IMO it's fairly clear that Zack put that material on his drive with the intention of Felix seeing it.

Why else crop every other video carefully so as to not reveal Sophie's identity, but then upload a video with the Sophie look-alike revealing he face, clearly intended to throw off suspicion.

Maybe it wasn't intentional the first time, but all the subsequent times probably were.

As for why not send that directly to Felix? Well, it's one thing if Felix thinks Zack is sharing this stuff by accident, but how could you ignore someone directly sending you his sex videos with a woman that reminds you of your wife multiple times?

 

[Adviar5050]

IMO it's fairly clear that Zack put that material on his drive with the intention of Felix seeing it.

Why else crop every other video carefully so as to not reveal Sophie's identity, but then upload a video with the Sophie look-alike revealing he face, clearly intended to throw off suspicion.

Maybe it wasn't intentional the first time, but all the subsequent times probably were.

As for why not send that directly to Felix? Well, it's one thing if Felix thinks Zack is sharing this stuff by accident, but how could you ignore someone directly sending you his sex videos with a woman that reminds you of your wife multiple times?

Wow. This is one helluva discussion. I have finished the Sophia path but I'm only about halfway through the felix path which I think is where most of the information you are arguing about is coming from. I can say from the Sophia path I did not get the assumption that the President or Amy or anybody else was helping Zack. I can already see though, that when playing the Felix path that there is more to the story and I'll be anxious to see what information comes out. Regarding your discussion. One of you thinks there is definitive proof that Brody and others are actively helping Zack with trying to break up the happy couple. The other thinks it's just been hinted at but never with 100% proof. I can't say either is right all i can say is that so far I haven't seen total proof that it's true. So I'd wait to continue the discussion for at least one more update before making that decision.
Regarding the ending. this is the first game I have played from this developer and I'm really enjoying everything so far. I have said that I would like to see at least one ending where Zack gets what's coming to him but this is not a game of choices so I can't imagine there will be multiple endings. With most games that are more novel than game there is basically one path and I would be interested in how much longer this continues. I would imagine that by 2024 Felix will have to uncover the cheating. Then I would like to see how the developer handles it. Everything he has done so far is great, but just like the TV show Lost, it's not so much the build-up but how you pay it off (just for the record, I loved Lost.....Until the ending). Anyway, that's just my opinion. It counts exactly the same as everybody else's.