VN Ren'Py Turning the Page [v0.26.0 Patreon] [Azienda]

[DeemLeem12]

The only thing that amuses me about the whole NTR thing is when people say they enjoy watching the male part of the couple suffer because ultimately he wins.

Think about what goes in relationships right now, especially western ones. Boy meets girl, boy and girl are happy for years, girl eventually realises she enjoys more male attention, girl and chad get it on, husband finds out, boy and girl split up.

Right at that moment the boy is sad but the thing about sadness is .... it doesn't last. Eventually he gets over her, learns from his mistakes and knows the signs to watch for in the future.

Meanwhile she either been dumped for chads next conquest or she keeps cheating and monkey branching until she's all alone. Then she hits the wall and realises she's not young and pretty anymore and she's got so bitter and miserable even the cats don't want her.

So she ends up as the crazy goldfish lady and he lived like Neo dodging those bullets until he had his life sorted and now he's married to a 25 year old gymnastics instructor who worships the ground he walks on.

She sees them out and about and mourns the life she could have had if her nickname wasn't Blonde Paint because she's a bit dim but cheap and spreads easily.

Nice fantasy you concocted there champ.

 

[OleJackRipper]

So I played the last update. I am a low level patreon and it released to us yesterday. Very interesting. I won't spoil anything, there are plenty on here already, I'll just say I can't wait for the public release to talk about this update. They probably pushed the narrative farther in this update then in the last four combined. It is obvious now where this is going to go. I was holding out hope that this game would end with Sophie leaving Felix for Zack and him denying her and leaving her crying at his dorm room knowing he doesn't really want her and she can't go back to her husband.....After playing the last update, I'm losing hope of that. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

are you new to ntr?
As a none fan. I've been exposed to too much ntr. And most of them end with the ex-wife becoming not only the sleezbag's girl. but being happy with getting pimped to gang bangs. The wife leaving the husband and getting reality checked is not a ntr staple.
My condolences if you genuinely were hoping for that and even supporting the dev while hoping for that.

 

[NewTricks]

The only thing that amuses me about the whole NTR thing is when people say they enjoy watching the male part of the couple suffer because ultimately he wins.

Think about what goes in relationships right now, especially western ones. Boy meets girl, boy and girl are happy for years, girl eventually realises she enjoys more male attention, girl and chad get it on, husband finds out, boy and girl split up.

Right at that moment the boy is sad but the thing about sadness is .... it doesn't last. Eventually he gets over her, learns from his mistakes and knows the signs to watch for in the future.

Meanwhile she either been dumped for chads next conquest or she keeps cheating and monkey branching until she's all alone. Then she hits the wall and realises she's not young and pretty anymore and she's got so bitter and miserable even the cats don't want her.

So she ends up as the crazy goldfish lady and he lived like Neo dodging those bullets until he had his life sorted and now he's married to a 25 year old gymnastics instructor who worships the ground he walks on.

She sees them out and about and mourns the life she could have had if her nickname wasn't Blonde Paint because she's a bit dim but cheap and spreads easily.

Okay. I'll try not to take personally how accurately you described my married and dating life and just give you a high five. At least my Ex-wife still has the cats, whether they like her or not. And she is a yoga instructor, damn it.

 

[Adviar5050]

are you new to ntr?
As a none fan. I've been exposed to too much ntr. And most of them end with the ex-wife becoming not only the sleezbag's girl. but being happy with getting pimped to gang bangs. The wife leaving the husband and getting reality checked is not a ntr staple.
My condolences if you genuinely were hoping for that and even supporting the dev while hoping for that.

Well it is just a game so I won't be losing any sleep over the outcome but yeah I play a few NTR games. But to be honest I usually look for the rare ones that have an NTR tag but not a cheating tag. There aren't many of them. I play this one and joined his patreon because I find the story well written and well executed. I do hope the ending will be Sophie leaving Felix. He's too wimpy for my taste. Then she goes to be with the guy she thinks loves her and he just totally corrupts her and then dumps her for another married woman. But if it doesn't happen and Sophie and Zack live happily ever after I'm okay.

 

[clown48212]

Well it is just a game so I won't be losing any sleep over the outcome but yeah I play a few NTR games. But to be honest I usually look for the rare ones that have an NTR tag but not a cheating tag. There aren't many of them. I play this one and joined his patreon because I find the story well written and well executed. I do hope the ending will be Sophie leaving Felix. He's too wimpy for my taste. Then she goes to be with the guy she thinks loves her and he just totally corrupts her and then dumps her for another married woman. But if it doesn't happen and Sophie and Zack live happily ever after I'm okay.

Every Azienda game thus far has had multiple endings and I don't see this one bucking the trend. What you're asking for may still be on the table

 

[Smokenoke]

I do hope the ending will be Sophie leaving Felix. He's too wimpy for my taste. Then she goes to be with the guy she thinks loves her and he just totally corrupts her and then dumps her for another married woman. But if it doesn't happen and Sophie and Zack live happily ever after I'm okay.

I can see the non-vanilla path ending in a few different ways.

1) Sophie stops having sex with Zach after their deal. Regrets cheating on Felix but still misses Zach. Felix never finds out.

2) Sophie continues to cheat with Zach and eventually gets pregnant. Felix never finds out.

3) Sophie continues to cheat and Felix finds out. They divorce. This could play out a few ways.

1. Sophie goes back to Zach but he just wanted to pump and dump begins to pimps her out.
2. Love ending with Zach? Doubtful though.

Endings 2 and 3-1 seem the most likely to me. This author does multiple endings so I'm sure one of them ends up in the final cut.

 

[sanchotx]

I can see the non-vanilla path ending in a few different ways.

1) Sophie stops having sex with Zach after their deal. Regrets cheating on Felix but still misses Zach. Felix never finds out.

2) Sophie continues to cheat with Zach and eventually gets pregnant. Felix never finds out.

3) Sophie continues to cheat and Felix finds out. They divorce. This could play out a few ways.

1. Sophie goes back to Zach but he just wanted to pump and dump begins to pimps her out.
2. Love ending with Zach? Doubtful though.

Endings 2 and 3-1 seem the most likely to me. This author does multiple endings so I'm sure one of them ends up in the final cut.

i am not a cuck fan but Felix could also allow himself to be cucked. guy has been written wimpy enough that he might find out and allow it.

i got to say...it does look like sophie and zach have genuine feelings for each other. even if zach does leave her, she'll be better off finding someone who is a better match for her now that she has discovered herself. she knows now that felix is not it. he's just a friend...a friend she loves but just a friend nonetheless

 

[Smokenoke]

i am not a cuck fan but Felix could also allow himself to be cucked. guy has been written wimpy enough that he might find out and allow it.

i got to say...it does look like sophie and zach have genuine feelings for each other. even if zach does leave her, she'll be better off finding someone who is a better match for her now that she has discovered herself. she knows now that felix is not it. he's just a friend...a friend she loves but just a friend nonetheless

I haven't played through the entire Felix path but so far he's shown disgust and fear towards the idea Sophie might be cheating. It's certainly possible though.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Yea, no.

This is only true if you pretend the kink is exclusively limited to seeing the MC get blown the fuck out (ie. the Western Cuckold fetish). But it isn't.

The Japanese 'Netorare' genre is filled with stories that either imply or flat out tell you that the guy the FMC has fallen in love with is just using her for sex and that he will dump her as soon as he gets bored with her. In those stories, the FMC's degraded, fallen state is just as much a part of the kink as the process of her getting stolen from the MC.

Of course, it's not always the case, but it's so normal that you really shouldn't be surprised if the FMC ends up alone and miserable at the end of everything. After all, it's a normal part of the kink.

So, if you can say that wanting to see Sophie get used up and thrown away in this kink is a 'self-own' and makes someone 'similar to an incel', then I could say that wanting to see her get a happy ending in this kink is a 'self-own' and makes you 'similar to simp.'

Then again, maybe we could all be adults and recognize that people come to netorare for different reasons without resorting to name calling?

...No?

Fine, whatever.




And you should have chosen not to. Learn to recognize bait, friend. Hopefully what I typed above makes things clearer for you.

That's not the actual western cuckold fetish, that's the cuckold fetish through the ntr-lover's lens.

The prior guy who was being responded to, his description is apt which is why it probably makes people uncomfortable here. Idk why I keep coming into these threads, I swear this is like a carbon copy of "promise left unkept".

 

[Jzx1000]

Wonder what happened between Danielle and the other nerd.

 

[Adviar5050]

That's not the actual western cuckold fetish, that's the cuckold fetish through the ntr-lover's lens.

The prior guy who was being responded to, his description is apt which is why it probably makes people uncomfortable here. Idk why I keep coming into these threads, I swear this is like a carbon copy of "promise left unkept".

I do agree it has a lot of the same components of Promise the only real difference is the perspectives. In that game (if I remember correctly) the options were just the MC or All. If you picked All you had to go through two or more play throughs of the same scenario and for me it got a little repetitive.

 

[jaybae01]

It's interesting how we all play NTR games from different viewpoints! Personally, as a gay guy I always love it from the gf/wife's POV and getting corrrupted by the bad guy.

 

[sanchotx]

Wonder what happened between Danielle and the other nerd.

just a guess. they were the ones who saw her cheating and recorded and uploaded the video. they did blur out her face but they know she's fucking zach

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Still think Felix should just take the nuclear option. Feminize himself and steal Zach away from Sophie. Those two can go have a vanilla lovers ending and Sophie is stuck trying to fill the void in her heart from Zach and Felix by filling a completely different void

 

[jaden000]

Zach and Sophie are just meant to be together

 

[SpyderArachnid]

Still think Felix should just take the nuclear option. Feminize himself and steal Zach away from Sophie. Those two can go have a vanilla lovers ending and Sophie is stuck trying to fill the void in her heart from Zach and Felix by filling a completely different void

heh, imagine that.

Turns out the title "Turning the Page" wasn't about turning Sophie all along. It was about turning Felix into a femboy/trans cause that is Zack's true fetish.

Would be a new twist in the NTR genre lol.

 

[Adultress]

I debated whether to reply but decided why not? Incel ending? Where the husband who did nothing wrong gets destroyed and left by his wife? Don't think so. the incel ending would be Sophie deciding that she would rather be with her safe husband than the alpha male. The only person who gets a happy ending is Zack so how is that an incel ending? Please explain.

I call it an incel fantasy because it literally is one. Here is a formulation of the foundational myth of incel culture:

Think about what goes in relationships right now, especially western ones. Boy meets girl, boy and girl are happy for years, girl eventually realises she enjoys more male attention, girl and chad get it on, husband finds out, boy and girl split up.

The simple fact of the matter is that men are way more likely to be the cheater than the cheated. When women do cheat, it's usually not because their paramour is hotter or fucks so much better, but because they feel emotionally neglected by their husband/boyfriend. Cuckold porn, by contrast, is based on the male model of infidelity: you cheat because they're hot and sexy and have a big dick (which is honestly way more appealing to men than women).

Incels (or at least the people who construct their identities around their involuntary celibacy) latch onto this myth to explain why they aren't getting any pussy, then construct elaborate revenge fantasies. They're so deep into their doomer cult that they've moved beyond fantasising about themselves having sex. The only thing that gets them off is seeing "these whores" get what's coming to them.

PS: this is without a doubt the worst text editor I have ever used. Why the fuck does it delete the preceding space when you delete a word? Who thought that was a good idea?

 

[thatoneguy543w745387]

So is that evil condom gone yet? Condoms are just the worst, i cant even wear them IRL. Sure they keep you safe and blah, blah, blah - But they just ruin sex - at least for me

As a result, they kinda ruin sex scenes in video games too

 

[Valmond82]

Has anyone played the author past games? I did and they are really "punch in the gut" heavy. If he does anything even remotely close to his old work....well lets just say poor poor Felix..

oh and anyone else think that this game is overly long? 50 updates with just a tiny bit of progress in her corruption. Please step on it for god sakes. In all honesty I stopped even reading the text. I just like the sex scenes at this point.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I call it an incel fantasy because it literally is one. Here is a formulation of the foundational myth of incel culture:

The simple fact of the matter is that men are way more likely to be the cheater than the cheated. When women do cheat, it's usually not because their paramour is hotter or fucks so much better, but because they feel emotionally neglected by their husband/boyfriend. Cuckold porn, by contrast, is based on the male model of infidelity: you cheat because they're hot and sexy and have a big dick (which is honestly way more appealing to men than women).

Incels (or at least the people who construct their identities around their involuntary celibacy) latch onto this myth to explain why they aren't getting any pussy, then construct elaborate revenge fantasies. They're so deep into their doomer cult that they've moved beyond fantasising about themselves having sex. The only thing that gets them off is seeing "these whores" get what's coming to them.

I think that's a reductionist approach to men and women's sexual dynamic, and specifically sexual power dynamics. No doubt, the overwhelming incel view is as well, but the real world is more complicated than just explaining away cheating as emotional neglect or hotter and a great fuck.

PS: this is without a doubt the worst text editor I have ever used. Why the fuck does it delete the preceding space when you delete a word? Who thought that was a good idea?

The same reason why every smartphone text editor moves the cursor to the end of the sentence after you change a world midsentence; because some arrogant designer knew better than you. (Bad UXs everywhere these days)