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[gedads]

" I was thinking, is this searching for realism from users also present in harem games where the protagonist fucks the whole city without anyone batting an eye? "
Still waiting for a game with harem where the mc fucks absolutely everything, letting his wife in misery and having her drinking pussy juice while she's straight, of course while putting on her a chastity belt only to remove it once he's sure to have contracted aids in order to lovingly give it to her.
That will never happen, because there's some kind of shield for women that doesn't exist for male MC which is purely bullshit or in the head of gays hate for straight men (excepted BBC).

 

[Nefurien]

" I was thinking, is this searching for realism from users also present in harem games where the protagonist fucks the whole city without anyone batting an eye? "
Still waiting for a game with harem where the mc fucks absolutely everything, letting his wife in misery and having her drinking pussy juice while she's straight, of course while putting on her a chastity belt only to remove it once he's sure to have contracted aids in order to lovingly give it to her.
That will never happen, because there's some kind of shield for women that doesn't exist for male MC which is purely bullshit or in the head of gays hate for straight men (excepted BBC).

Honestly don't know where to start with my answer here, what I can tell you is that netorare fans enjoy certain scenes and situations, so to go and criticize those very scenes and situations, especially if you don't like netorare, makes little sense. It's like being a huge fan of classical music and spending all day criticizing metal bands.

I think the day when every fan can live in peace with their own tastes without having to insult who likes netorare/vanilla/put another kink here, is so unreachable that it's not even worth hoping for it.

 

[atrebor68]

OMG.
This is what I mean for NTR or cuckoldry.
The wife, knowingly, agrees to keep all day the bull's cum into her body.

 

[BBCinyourass]

when official android version?

 

[Smokenoke]

I don't think she's throwing away her career at all. There's no indication of that.

Getting caught having sex with a student would get you canned and possibly blacklisted from working in any higher educational establishment. They've had sex multiple times on school property and gotten away with it only for what I can only assume is plot convenience.

 

[JillNadin]

I haven't played for a few chapters. Has the romance progressed yet or is Sophie still just driven by lust only? (Specifically, are they kissing during sex yet?)

 

[CleanJebboy]

I haven't played for a few chapters. Has the romance progressed yet or is Sophie still just driven by lust only? (Specifically, are they kissing during sex yet?)

Yes, there is kissing and feelings (at least on Sophie's side)

 

[xcalibar4]

It's not a criticism, more an observation, if one wants to elevate a game beyond the mediocre, then one must write more cogent and realistic scripts. If the female protagonist was a housewife who had a sheltered humdrum existence and married the first guy she had sex with, then she may well behave the way the female lead plays here. If on the other hand we believe that career professor happy to throw away tenure for big dick Zach, then go for it

At-least realistic for that particular world. What I mean is there needs to some consistency on the script. And somewhat believable story, erotic game/story/comic always will need some cliché. I mean she willingly started cheating just after a month or so she felt lonely. IRL I don't think things happen that fast. And I think too much realism would be hard to achieve in these kinds of games (Any genre/kink).

On a side note I think her full corruption would be as a professor she helps Zack corrupt good student like Daniella.

 

[l_syaw]

Many years ago I thought Alexander the Great and Scipio were unrealistic, so I sperged out to the Creator about this unconvincing trash.
He replied with a picture of Constantine, and nowadays I'm looking at a two dimensional depiction of a guy pillaging a woman's chocolate factory with his giga phallus. Get in the locker, nerds.

 

[drmanhatan]

Wanted to give it a 5 star rating but don't feel like typing the required 200 word review for it. Oh well. Anyways, amazing game.

 

[viper217]

I don't think she's throwing away her career at all. There's no indication of that. Also, the game states she was quite sheltered and actually married the first guy she had sex with, like you said. Felix was her boyfriend when they were younger, I'm not even sure she had other sexual experiences. Sounds like you are contradicting yourself.

She will lose her career if she gets caught shagging a student, and she has also shagged on college property. If she gets caught this is a career killer in academia, tenure gone, no references to start afresh. Shunned by other academics as tainted who wouldn't want to associate with her for fear of professionally being tarred with the same brush. In the old days a male professor may have got away with it, but now with the current environment it would be a real shit show. Although Zach isn't a minor, that wouldn't be the problems, most contracts hold a fit and proper person clause, to not bring the college into disrepute...etc. Every educator knows that some students want bragging rights about bagging a teacher, lecturer etc, and all educators are all too aware of the consequences. The best case scenario is that she doesn't get caught, but with this being an NTR game where is the fun in that as it wouldn't enable them to ramp up the pain. Felix would also probably have to leave his job as well as his reputational damage would be bad too. So the only one who would get away with it is Zach, because he is from a wealthy family and it would be chalked up to the wild spirits of youth and his vigour for all of lifes pleasures

 

[viper217]

At-least realistic for that particular world. What I mean is there needs to some consistency on the script. And somewhat believable story, erotic game/story/comic always will need some cliché. I mean she willingly started cheating just after a month or so she felt lonely. IRL I don't think things happen that fast. And I think too much realism would be hard to achieve in these kinds of games (Any genre/kink).

On a side note I think her full corruption would be as a professor she helps Zack corrupt good student like Daniella.

I think you make some good points, the story could have some interesting side play if the female character is totally corrupted, she could become a corrupter, but it would be a real mind break from her current position and I don't know if the developer has the patience to develop these side plots. Who knows I cannot speak to how much time and effort it takes, but we all have examples of games that could have been so much more, but there was a mad dash to the finish line and onto the next product.
Part of the NTR schtick is that we get to see all the sides of the triangle, but a smart writer would keep back some information for a parallel story line that we are not aware of to increase the surprise/shock factor later.

 

[Bringn_Da_Pain]

She will lose her career if she gets caught shagging a student, and she has also shagged on college property. If she gets caught this is a career killer in academia, tenure gone, no references to start afresh. Shunned by other academics as tainted who wouldn't want to associate with her for fear of professionally being tarred with the same brush. In the old days a male professor may have got away with it, but now with the current environment it would be a real shit show. Although Zach isn't a minor, that wouldn't be the problems, most contracts hold a fit and proper person clause, to not bring the college into disrepute...etc. Every educator knows that some students want bragging rights about bagging a teacher, lecturer etc, and all educators are all too aware of the consequences. The best case scenario is that she doesn't get caught, but with this being an NTR game where is the fun in that as it wouldn't enable them to ramp up the pain. Felix would also probably have to leave his job as well as his reputational damage would be bad too. So the only one who would get away with it is Zach, because he is from a wealthy family and it would be chalked up to the wild spirits of youth and his vigour for all of lifes pleasures

I mean if you think students aren't fucking faculty all over the world I think you're out of your mind. Now I agree it isn't condoned, but for star players rules are different, and once he leaves then an assessment of their prefromance would be done, if not fired outright. There are enough sotries daily anymore about facultly losing their positions over this kind of behavior, and those are just the ones caught.

 

[Bringn_Da_Pain]

I think you make some good points, the story could have some interesting side play if the female character is totally corrupted, she could become a corrupter, but it would be a real mind break from her current position and I don't know if the developer has the patience to develop these side plots. Who knows I cannot speak to how much time and effort it takes, but we all have examples of games that could have been so much more, but there was a mad dash to the finish line and onto the next product.
Part of the NTR schtick is that we get to see all the sides of the triangle, but a smart writer would keep back some information for a parallel story line that we are not aware of to increase the surprise/shock factor later.

Now this could make for an excellent sequel, where Sophie becomes the predator at a new university.

 

[tata19]

This update is interesting, Felix's route moved a little with his idea of going to the gym. I also think that there are two paths left in the two very clear routes in Sophia's case, one where the end will be with Zack and another where she will sadly discover that it was just another toy for Zack to take. I don't know how the issue of Felix will be resolved because obviously Sophia has him as someone to cover up appearances, even to have him around to get excited while she is with Zack. They no longer have anything in common, she is not interested in anything about him, it is no longer just a sexual preference but at all levels with Zack, even at the end he directly makes fun of him in front of Zack. In general, in these games, the woman is sexually attracted but then does not seek to have another type of relationship. In many cases, she hates it, but the sex is so good that they tolerate it, unless the husband is a trash who despises or neglects her. but I don't see that in this case. I don't know how Felix's route is going to remain relatively interesting the way the situation is set up. I don't know if some of the options that arose would give Felix a more or less honorable ending. I don't know how the scenario could be changed where he loses in all fields.

 

[tata19]

The guy didn't compare to hamlet, he talked about the timlessness of some stories and how they are re-worked over time he then expanded on that point to then express his ideas for potential story expansion. Some people hate NTR due to their visceral reaction to a married partner cheating and betrayal. The female character in this story, does the same thing that we all do when we cross a moral line (cognitive dissonance), she rationalises that if only Felix did this, thought that, had a bigger this did more of this and less of that. She has been seduced by passion for a world she has not experienced, but ultimately her narrative shows that her moral boundary is moving and her rationlisations are to keep her mentally happy. Ulimately she is cheating and wants it all, tries to justify that she loves Felix, but ultimately deep down knows that if he finds out he will be mentally bereft, she is his world, Zack is slowly becoming her world and yet she is just another notch on Zachs bedpost. You can see how this is a constant rich NTR vein to mine, betrayal at the most basic level of a fundamental contract of fidelity (marriage).

Sophie already uses Felix as a pretext and keeps her status at school clean but there is no more relationship between them as things stand, 2 more updates and Felix should get out of her life. I think that in the options for Sophie, look for an ending where she sees the real Zack.

 

[tata19]

This update also leaves the door open for Sophie to approach some MFF relationship with Amy possibly.

 

[viper217]

I mean if you think students aren't fucking faculty all over the world I think you're out of your mind. Now I agree it isn't condoned, but for star players rules are different, and once he leaves then an assessment of their prefromance would be done, if not fired outright. There are enough sotries daily anymore about facultly losing their positions over this kind of behavior, and those are just the ones caught.

Yup but the chances of not getting caught now with Social media, geotagging, suspicious spouse, jealous classmates, jealous faculty, some people have even been caught because the person the faculty member had the affair with has claimed the organisation for phsychological trauma and suffering, and been awarded out of court settlements. I never said students aren't fucking faculty, I don't think it's an epidemic with the amount of talent that is available to students in their own age demographic on campus, but I think that the consequences for the more mature person in the relationship (faculty member is more serious and almost certain these days). A person who is in a position of responsibility in today's world risks a lot more than a student. Look at the number of stories of people who have had a shitty life after college or uni, have spiralled downwards and associated thier current circumstances with past trauma as the primary causative factor. They then retrospectively sue the organisation and individual involved many years later (there is no time statute of limitations). You could be a lecturer who lectured 30 years ago and be very senior, and something you did in your past can come back and bite you in the ass.

 

[viper217]

Sophie already uses Felix as a pretext and keeps her status at school clean but there is no more relationship between them as things stand, 2 more updates and Felix should get out of her life. I think that in the options for Sophie, look for an ending where she sees the real Zack.

I think you are on the money with that suggestion, I don't really understand why the developers would introduce the other characters unless there is some intent to use them in the story in a more meaningful way.

 

[Nefurien]

Yup but the chances of not getting caught now with Social media, geotagging, suspicious spouse, jealous classmates, jealous faculty, some people have even been caught because the person the faculty member had the affair with has claimed the organisation for phsychological trauma and suffering, and been awarded out of court settlements. I never said students aren't fucking faculty, I don't think it's an epidemic with the amount of talent that is available to students in their own age demographic on campus, but I think that the consequences for the more mature person in the relationship (faculty member is more serious and almost certain these days). A person who is in a position of responsibility in today's world risks a lot more than a student. Look at the number of stories of people who have had a shitty life after college or uni, have spiralled downwards and associated thier current circumstances with past trauma as the primary causative factor. They then retrospectively sue the organisation and individual involved many years later (there is no time statute of limitations). You could be a lecturer who lectured 30 years ago and be very senior, and something you did in your past can come back and bite you in the ass.

You're mixing way too much IRL stuff into a NTR game. If you analyze netorare works with that mindset, whether they are games, doujinshi or whatever you prefer, the genre would die in a second.

It is the exact same thing as a protagonist in an action movie. Is it likely that he survives hundreds of shootings and always comes out alive? No. Is that an element that ensures that fans of the said genre will end up liking it? Yes. Mirror all this on a netorare work and you have your answer.

There are very few works with strong themes that maintain true realism, and do you know why? Because otherwise they would be boring. And no one when reading/playing something wants to interact with something boring.

In addition, we are talking about porn here. If someone wants a 100% percent realistic porn, they should masturbate while looking at a white wall. What people find erotic in porn is precisely the fact that it manages to depict situations that in reality would be difficult to find themselves in/experience.