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[mzer0]

No, I read doujinshi, CGs sets and stuff. The reason as to why most of the story is not from the mc pov in doujinshi is because how can an artist show all the sex scenes if it's from the male pov? So yeah, it's pretty obvious most of the story is not from the male mc, but there's a valid reason for that. Still, the main character, the first introduced in the story, is usually the cuck. But there's something else too, in this thread are we talking about games or manga? So why do you bring here doujinshi, that are made in another way, for quick faps when we are talking about games?

That's my point. You're limiting NTR to games. I'm talking about NTR as a genre, which includes everything. That's what I've always been doing.

 

[Nefurien]

That's my point. You're limiting NTR to games. I'm talking about NTR as a genre, which includes everything. That's what I've always been doing.

So my initial message was "for a game to be correctly tagged netorare, it should have a big part ot if being from the cuck pov". You replied to my message that was talking about games, saying I was wrong, and now you say you were talking about the genre in general?

 

[Nefurien]

And you're still wrong for that. I simply understand where you got that (wrong) idea because it's less common for the NTR'd character not to be the MC in the medium of games.

Again, there is no reason to believe that the game I linked was tagged incorrectly, other than an odd bias or a limited perspective on what makes some 'NTR'.

The point is not about the game you linked. You understand what I just said or not? Why do you talk about the genre if I talk about games? Can you reply? Or you need to continue saying random bullshit, to make it seems you're right when you're totally wrong?

 

[ButterscotchJackson]

I like the cheating part of NTR which is why i like Netori a lot but its hard to quiet the voice of empathy when you're watching some guy falling apart as his life is destroyed. The cheating sex is hot but i don't enjoy watching the misery of those who've done nothing wrong.

This is exactly why I'm having a problem with A Perfect Marriage. I know this is the wrong thread for talk about that VN, but just had to mention that lol

 

[JevilVerum]

The point is not about the game you linked. You understand what I just said or not? Why do you talk about the genre if I talk about games? Can you reply? Or you need to continue saying random bullshit, to make it seems you're right when you're totally wrong?

I suggest you to ignore that guy, he only talks in circles and disappears when he doesn't know what to say, not worth it.

I think if I was writing it I'd focus on that sort of baffling helpless feeling. Like, usually NTR from the MMC's point of view is helplessness in the face of a superior force, if you follow. And one of the feelings will be a confused betrayal stemming from "your" entire relationship suddenly meaning nothing in the face of the simple primal sex act. You've done everything right, loved her, built a life with her, been true and loving for years, and she's leaving for a big dick? Really? And nothing of your life together is more important to her? There's literally no way to keep her just because he can fuck???

Flip it on its head and look for the same emotions. You've done everything you were supposed to- played football, built your body, dominated weaker men, "won" in every way, and she's slipping away because this little fucker knows the difference between second and third wave feminism??? Because he likes Taylor Swift? He drives a fucking Corolla and doesn't even LIFT! How can this be happening???

So you summon the same emotions with the game. Write some scenes where people see her interacting with the invader, but again, flipped. Where you would usually write their obvious physical attraction and the nemesis' physical dominance, now the humiliation comes from her very obviously connecting with the other guy in a way your meaty head will never be able to copy. Instead of waking up in the middle of the night to hear them fucking, the MMC wakes up in the middle of the night and they're in their eighth hour of talking about chick flicks, sitting on the couch all animated and laughing and connecting in a way you can't stop.

For the sex scenes, you could show the MMC fucking her hard like a proper alpha, then when the antagonist gets his shot don't even have him use his dick. Have him kiss and pet her until she's going crazy, then make her cum with his fingers. And then, since fingers don't have a refractory period, immediately do it again. Could make a pretty sexy scene out of a dude showing a woman new heights of pleasure the way other women do it, with fingers and mouth and toys.

And then flip the usual FMC transformation. Show her dressing super sexy for the alpha at first, then as she bonds with the nerdy nemesis have her stop dying her hair and wearing booty shorts or whatever and end up looking like this game's FMC in the cover shot. Let her discovery of herself mean becoming a nerdy dream girl as opposed to a hypersexed Barbie doll.

I think you'd want to make the MMC sympathetic by making him a muscly dude of the type we play in games. Batman gets cucked, basically. Otherwise the audience would sympathize with the antagonist, seeing as how we're all a bunch of nerds. But you could probably do it.

Fuck, now I wish I had artistic skills. I might actually try to write this story for my Lit page.

Edit: I can't type.

Well, that idea would probably attract some people, but I don't think a game with that setting would have huge success. I might be wrong though... we just need someone to try

 

[MaxLoad]

Ok here goes.
For me, NTR is not being a cuck
The MMC or FMC never wants to share their partner.
The person being stolen does not do it willingly otherwise they are just cheaters.
The MC needs to find out what is going on.
We need to know the pain and anguish of the MC and how powerless they feel.
The Antagonist can only loose by being killed by the MC.
The only good ending is if the Antagonist gets bored and moves on with the MC showing forgiveness to their partner.

Felix needs to find out and Sophie is just a cheater. Zack moves on to a new victim.
IMO this game started being NTR but then turned into a story about cheating.

This is just how the cookies crumble for ME.

 

[kinqsemq]

Please uptade v0.25.0 ANDROID PLEASEEE ;((( cebs gallery not working.

 

[wolfling11]

Please uptade v0.25.0 ANDROID PLEASEEE ;((( cebs gallery not working.

Someone help this poor fella

 

[tata19]

Lust has become or has brought out the worst in Sophie or maybe it was always like that she just didn't have the courage to reveal it. But finally now she can tell Zack that she loves him without saying that she also loves Felix. I think that was what was missing although I couldn't see the reason why she continued doing it since it was obvious that she no longer loved him. Unless she used it to keep Zack around her because of her insecurities regarding Zack's feelings for her. Now she thinks she is convinced. It will be interesting to see what her talk with Felix will be in the next update.

 

[mzer0]

Lust has become or has brought out the worst in Sophie or maybe it was always like that she just didn't have the courage to reveal it. But finally now she can tell Zack that she loves him without saying that she also loves Felix. I think that was what was missing although I couldn't see the reason why she continued doing it since it was obvious that she no longer loved him. Unless she used it to keep Zack around her because of her insecurities regarding Zack's feelings for her. Now she thinks she is convinced. It will be interesting to see what her talk with Felix will be in the next update.

Personally, I'm more interested in Felix's talk with Amy. Whether or not she tells him everything (or gives him a clue at least) will really decide how the story is going progress/end.

EDIT:

Everyone prepare you're butts for a happy ending for Zack and Sophie where Sophie goes full evil and becomes Zack's partner in crime just like Amy was.
Honestly, that's the only way I can see Sophie getting a happy ending with him. Having a stable, loving, and monogamous relationship with Zack - like the one she used to have with Felix - just seems way too farfetched to me.

She'd have to give up on the monogamous part eventually if she wanted to keep him.

 

[tata19]

Personally, I'm more interested in Felix's talk with Amy. Whether or not she tells him everything (or gives him a clue at least) will really decide how the story is going progress/end.

EDIT:

Everyone prepare you're butts for a happy ending for Zack and Sophie where Sophie goes full evil and becomes Zack's partner in crime just like Amy was.
Honestly, that's the only way I can see Sophie getting a happy ending with him. Having a stable, loving, and monogamous relationship with Zack - like the one she used to have with Felix - just seems way too farfetched to me.

She'd have to give up on the monogamous part eventually if she wanted to keep him.

Yes, logically that is very important. But I'm curious how the meeting will be because Felix's suspicions and depression will be with a Sophie who has already totally decided on Zack. I'm very intrigued by how they will come out of that talk. It may even influence Felix's talk with Amy.

 

[mzer0]

Yes, logically that is very important. But I'm curious how the meeting will be because Felix's suspicions and depression will be with a Sophie who has already totally decided on Zack. I'm very intrigued by how they will come out of that talk. It may even influence Felix's talk with Amy.

Maybe I'm misreading, but it sounds like you're expecting Felix to talk to Sophie before he talks with Amy.

I'm expecting the opposite; I'm expecting that conversation to happen on the phone right then and there.

Then again, it's possible they'll agree to meet up later to talk face to face.

EDIT:
Actually, the more I think about, he probably will talk to Amy afterward. That conversation sounds like it will need to happen in person.

 

[tata19]

Maybe I'm misreading, but it sounds like you're expecting Felix to talk to Sophie before he talks with Amy.

I'm expecting the opposite; I'm expecting that conversation to happen on the phone right then and there.

Then again, it's possible they'll agree to meet up later to talk face to face.

EDIT:
Actually, the more I think about, he probably will talk to Amy afterward. That conversation sounds like it will need to happen in person.

Felix is going to pick up Sophie from the library and then have lunch or do you think there might be a call from Amy before that happens?

 

[mzer0]

Felix is going to pick up Sophie from the library and then have lunch or do you think there might be a call from Amy before that happens?

OH! I SEE!

I think I understand. Please read this:

I just realized that this update splits into two different routes, depending on your choices thus far.

Route 1:
The update ends with Felix making a phone call to Amy, saying that they need to talk.

OR

Route 2:
The update ends with Felix heading up to the room Sophie is in to see what's going on.


I wonder which one will be continued in the next update. Then again, maybe they are the same route with only minor differences. I kinda doubt that, though. At this point they seem wildly different.

So, just so we're clear, how did Felix's update end for you?

 

[tata19]

OH! I SEE!

I think I understand. Please read this:




So, just so we're clear, how did Felix's update end for you?

The truth is that the first is possible but I did not take it into account that it would happen immediately. It seems more to me that the call is going to come from Amy's side. For me things go the second route you propose but I see myself more for a chat between both of them where their thoughts will be spinning in their heads with what each one of them is feeling at this moment in their stories and that is what intrigues me the most. How will it happen but well I don't know if that's what will really happen in the next update as I think.

 

[mzer0]

The truth is that the first is possible but I did not take it into account that it would happen immediately. It seems more to me that the call is going to come from Amy's side. For me things go the second route you propose but I see myself more for a chat between both of them where their thoughts will be spinning in their heads with what each one of them is feeling at this moment in their stories and that is what intrigues me the most. How will it happen but well I don't know if that's what will really happen in the next update as I think.

To be clear, I'm wasn't proposing those routes. Those routes are actually currently in the game as of version 0.25.

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you.

 

[tata19]

To be clear, I'm wasn't proposing those routes. Those routes are actually currently in the game as of version 0.25.

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you.

Ah ok now I understand you, sorry. It ends on route 2 then, but where is the choice of both made? It's not the last one at the gym.

 

[mzer0]

Ah ok now I understand you, sorry. It ends on route 2 then, but where is the choice of both made? It's not the last one at the gym.

I am currently under the impression that it depends on the choices you've made up until this point in the story.

If you make choices that are likely to make Felix more suspicious (ie. catching sophie with her sweater stained with cum, checking Zack's drive whenever you get the chance, etc), then you get the route where he calls Amy.

However, if your choices make Felix more trusting and oblivious, you get the route where he goes up to the library.

 

[tata19]

I am currently under the impression that it depends on the choices you've made up until this point in the story.

If you make choices that are likely to make Felix more suspicious (ie. catching sophie with her sweater stained with cum, checking Zack's drive whenever you get the chance, etc), then you get the route where he calls Amy.

However, if your choices make Felix more trusting and oblivious, you get the route where he goes up to the library.

Good point, the truth is that I lost the thread of the elections a bit, because of the ones you mentioned I think I mixed it up a bit. While I wait for the new update I will see if I can get the other route

 

[tata19]

I am currently under the impression that it depends on the choices you've made up until this point in the story.

If you make choices that are likely to make Felix more suspicious (ie. catching sophie with her sweater stained with cum, checking Zack's drive whenever you get the chance, etc), then you get the route where he calls Amy.

However, if your choices make Felix more trusting and oblivious, you get the route where he goes up to the library.

A query on Sophie's route also shows you any changes in the endings or only with Felix?