VN Ren'Py Twinewood [v2.5] [Professional Degenerate]

[Nykona]

Maybe it's better to ask the developer if the MC will have balls in the future.

 

[icollectsouls]

It is absolutely unfair to react with a face palm emoji, but just how people are allowed to praise the game, people are allowed to criticize the game. It's good to see criticisms so people can avoid games they won't enjoy as tags are fairly useless at showing what the game will include. This game have several tags, but neither neotare nor lesbian is given. To be annoyed about a weak willed and apologetic protagonist is not useless, it warns people who don't want to play as one. Just as it's unfair to criticize people who like the game, it's unfair to criticize people who dislike the game.

Except from what I've seen in this thread, not a lot of people are giving any genuine criticisms like "I think the pacing could be better" or "this part of the story should be better explained," they're just bitching about the game not fitting their strict definition of a "harem" or calling the MC lame because he's... acting like a fairly normal person given the scenario and isn't just some ridiculous power fantasy ultra-chad.
Nothing in the game is NTR, either. If the MC had any romantic interest in his own mom it'd be one thing, but considering the dev has said that she's not a love interest, the scene of her having sex with the futa is just like... the player themself being a voyeur more than anything. NTR isn't even a planned tag (as stated in the dev notes on the very first post, which is also where people should've probably looked to see if there was lesbian stuff planned.)

 

[Illuminati00]

Except from what I've seen in this thread, not a lot of people are giving any genuine criticisms like "I think the pacing could be better" or "this part of the story should be better explained," they're just bitching about the game not fitting their strict definition of a "harem" or calling the MC lame because he's... acting like a fairly normal person given the scenario and isn't just some ridiculous power fantasy ultra-chad.
Nothing in the game is NTR, either. If the MC had any romantic interest in his own mom it'd be one thing, but considering the dev has said that she's not a love interest, the scene of her having sex with the futa is just like... the player themself being a voyeur more than anything. NTR isn't even a planned tag (as stated in the dev notes on the very first post, which is also where people should've probably looked to see if there was lesbian stuff planned.)

While the discussion could be a bit more professional, complaining about a main character is genuine criticism. I would absolutely call apologizing and paying for a meal because of a mistake you did not even make spineless, though it is up for debate. But is it not better for people to complain so that the people not wanting to play as such a character don't download the game just to be disappointed and complain themselves? What is best for everyone, a few people complaining about the main character early in development so that people who want to avoid it is able to, and so that the developer sees what people think, or have a lot of people not get a warning just to be disappointed by the game and the dev not finding out what people think? Of course it could be said better, but that goes for every single game on here. It's a porn game site, one cannot expect everyone to write a well written essay about it, comments will be crude.
I commented about ntr and whatever else because you included it in the screenshot, not because it's in the game.

 

[Simulacrum29]

I find it funny how people are saying what type of character the MC is before any game progression and character development. Most people, including the ones in the thread would apologize to a woman they walk in on half naked, even if it wasn't their fault or done purposely, so that's a weird complaint. Not going to beat a dead horse with the mom scene since the dev has already addressed it, which I personally didn't have a problem with, but can be problematic for people who don't like such scenes.

This was a good amount of content in a trailer which rare, and really won me over. The girls are all very cute, especially Chloe the goblin roommate, the layout of the plot so far is really interesting and really want to see more. I am definitely interested in seeing what will happen with the MC after .

If I get into my room and there is someone naked in it, I better knew the said person. If that's not the case I would demand an explanation and/or throw them out. The fuck I apologize for walking into my own fucking room. Fuck that noise.

 

[AlexaSky]

Magic and Cuddles

 

[icollectsouls]

I would absolutely call apologizing and paying for a meal because of a mistake you did not even make spineless, though it is up for debate.

Regardless of whether or not the MC could've known if Chloe would be in there, he still walked in on a girl he's never met before dancing in her underwear and caused her to (briefly) faint. Considering she's going to be his roommate for the foreseeable future and should probably be on good terms with her, a verbal apology followed by getting to know her over dinner is really, really not that big of a deal. It's all his idea too, so it's not like he's going "bwuh sorry lady I'll do whatever you ask of me," which I'd be more willing to actually call "spineless." It leads to Chloe having a favorable impression of the MC anyways, she's already jealous of the childhood friend! The whole situation leads to a net positive because the MC now has a good start to a relationship with someone who's obviously a love interest.
If the MC acted like some of the people in this thread think he should, then we'd probably have to deal with Chloe being some obnoxious bitchy tsundere-type where she hates him at first and the MC slowly having to build up to just being at the start of an "okay with each other" relationship with her. At that point I'd take a genuinely "spineless" MC over the painful "have to share a dorm with a girl who hates you" trope.

But is it not better for people to complain so that the people not wanting to play as such a character don't download the game just to be disappointed and complain themselves? What is best for everyone, a few people complaining about the main character early in development so that people who want to avoid it is able to, and so that the developer sees what people think, or have a lot of people not get a warning just to be disappointed by the game and the dev not finding out what people think?

It'd really be better for people to form their own opinions by playing the game themselves and just moving on if they don't like it. Imagine if there was someone who was interested in the game, and if they just played it, they wouldn't personally have any issues with the MC. But because there's people in the thread acting like he's some testicle-less doormat, that potential player gets disinterested and misses out on a game they'd actually enjoy otherwise.
"The dev should see what the people think" logic doesn't really hold up because of the lack of any actual criticism, too. If I had a game on here and got comments that essentially boiled down to "I don't like the MC because he's not some edgy rude dude with an attitude," I'd just ignore them because all of those people aren't interested in the story that I'd actually want to tell.

Of course it could be said better, but that goes for every single game on here. It's a porn game site, one cannot expect everyone to write a well written essay about it, comments will be crude.

Just because this is a porn game site doesn't mean you should abandon all critical thought, though. You don't even need to write essays about it (like I have the unfortunate habit of doing), just maybe a few sentences that have actual thought put into them beyond "loser cuck game."

I commented about ntr and whatever else because you included it in the screenshot, not because it's in the game.

My screenshot had the NTR tag excluded in the search because if people are going to get weird and neurotic about a harem scenario where the girls might do sexual things with each other, then they probably really won't like it if some dude is fucking one of the girls behind their back, so it was just part of the suggestion to find a game they won't bitch about.

 

[Remembrance]

Nothing is wrong with them waiting turns..

or even kissing or touching in a threesome IF THE MC ALLOW IT.

My issue is if they start forming a relationship with eachother or fucking eachother without the MC turning it into another POLY RELATIONSHIP instead of a harem.

it's not NTR but I like to be INVOLVED ALL THE TIME and just lesbian sex bored me personally.

that seems to be the trend now with "HAREM" games and some people just kind sick of it and just want some options when it comes to it.

Like if you played DEPTHS REVIVAL the way they do the group sex etc is great.

Yeah, I find it weird that ppl dont find it sharing if the other person is also a girl, but fly off the handle if the exact same scene happens with a guy. In this day and age, your partner getting some with any gender is pretty much the same.
Sadly it does seem to be a trend with harem. I enjoy harem more than the lesbian sharing bothers me tho, so I just use the skip function ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

This is correct. The girls might play with each other a little but they will only be in love with the MC. There will additionally be other yuri content between girls not in MC's harem. Think voyeurism and such.

Pretty subjective tbh. If you can convey a MC 1st attitude in those scenes, I find it helps. Like this recent game, To Be a King, had this:"I am not going to have you delivering sensual messages to her for me. Let's be clear. My experience with women is more out of necessity than desire. Kaylan was very good, but I prefer you."

I think most people fall in the middle where they don't mind(atleast able to ignore) some interactions as long as it's pretty casual 1-time affairs as compared to a systemic relationship...
Ofc you have ppl avoiding lez at all costs & ppl who want more of it. Tbh I always thought everyone just wanted more lesbian content, but recently finding people speaking out about not liking it. Who knew

 

[Remembrance]

Another dev with a well designed genre section. Nice.
One suggestion tho(I basically give it to every game in the futa/trans genre): When mentioning Futa/Trans, include who fucks whom (male-on-trans vs trans-on-male), both in the description & in-game. Preference on this is split, even among ppl who 'like futa/trans', so better to treat them as different tags from the beginning to better inform everyone. You'll always find people asking about this, better to just post it right at the start ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Similarly for genre that might be kind of D/s like 'pee', you might want to elaborate who does what to.
Or with vague tags like hairy.

Good Luck

 

[Illuminati00]

Regardless of whether or not the MC could've known if Chloe would be in there, he still walked in on a girl he's never met before dancing in her underwear and caused her to (briefly) faint. Considering she's going to be his roommate for the foreseeable future and should probably be on good terms with her, a verbal apology followed by getting to know her over dinner is really, really not that big of a deal. It's all his idea too, so it's not like he's going "bwuh sorry lady I'll do whatever you ask of me," which I'd be more willing to actually call "spineless." It leads to Chloe having a favorable impression of the MC anyways, she's already jealous of the childhood friend! The whole situation leads to a net positive because the MC now has a good start to a relationship with someone who's obviously a love interest.
If the MC acted like some of the people in this thread think he should, then we'd probably have to deal with Chloe being some obnoxious bitchy tsundere-type where she hates him at first and the MC slowly having to build up to just being at the start of an "okay with each other" relationship with her. At that point I'd take a genuinely "spineless" MC over the painful "have to share a dorm with a girl who hates you" trope.

It'd really be better for people to form their own opinions by playing the game themselves and just moving on if they don't like it. Imagine if there was someone who was interested in the game, and if they just played it, they wouldn't personally have any issues with the MC. But because there's people in the thread acting like he's some testicle-less doormat, that potential player gets disinterested and misses out on a game they'd actually enjoy otherwise.
"The dev should see what the people think" logic doesn't really hold up because of the lack of any actual criticism, too. If I had a game on here and got comments that essentially boiled down to "I don't like the MC because he's not some edgy rude dude with an attitude," I'd just ignore them because all of those people aren't interested in the story that I'd actually want to tell.

Just because this is a porn game site doesn't mean you should abandon all critical thought, though. You don't even need to write essays about it (like I have the unfortunate habit of doing), just maybe a few sentences that have actual thought put into them beyond "loser cuck game."

My screenshot had the NTR tag excluded in the search because if people are going to get weird and neurotic about a harem scenario where the girls might do sexual things with each other, then they probably really won't like it if some dude is fucking one of the girls behind their back, so it was just part of the suggestion to find a game they won't bitch about.

I'm not going to lie, I haven't even played the game, so I'm not really sure what's what, I'm going by what people say. But apologizing for not doing anything wrong will not start some sort of hate relationship. She would definitely be more embarrassed, but unofficially accepting blame instead of being at least a little more assertive is a bit spineless in my opionion, but of course, it is subjective.

I'm not sure one can really say ''It'd really be better for people to form their own opinions by playing the game themselves''. Reviews exist for a reason. Not everyone can download everything, not everyone want to download anything. I'm not going to download a game that I don't think I'd enjoy, and the comments are a good way to see what the game is like, not everyone bothers with writing a well structured actual review. If people complain about a weak willed protagonist, there is a good chance he is.
'"The dev should see what the people think" logic doesn't really hold up because of the lack of any actual criticism, too. If I had a game on here and got comments that essentially boiled down to "I don't like the MC because he's not some edgy rude dude with an attitude"', the game is in early development, I think it's better for the people's complaints to be now so to scare off those who don't want such a game. It's absolutely good for the developer to see what the people want, especially early on. If people overwhelmingly complain about something, there is probably something wrong with it, if people overwhelmingly criticize something, you've probably done a very good job with it.

Of course people can say things more eloquently, and I don't see many that have lost critical thought. They didn't like a certain part of the game, so they wrote about it. Again, yes it could have been said better, but I feel like it's a lost cause trying to have a completely elegant comment section on a porn site. At least it's not as bad as the hopeless NTR lovers vs NTR haters. I personally hate the idea of being cucked by someone, yet the damn arguments are always so incredibly idiotic.

''(like I have the unfortunate habit of doing)'' Yeah, me too, usually have too much to say.

'' My screenshot had the NTR tag excluded etc etc'' fair enough.

 

[icollectsouls]

I'm not going to lie, I haven't even played the game, so I'm not really sure what's what, I'm going by what people say.

Okay, full stop. Why even participate in the discussion that much if you haven't even played the game and judged it for yourself? I don't even want to bother replying to the rest of your post now, I'm just floored by this tbh.

 

[Nobles]

I would absolutely call apologizing and paying for a meal because of a mistake you did not even make spineless, though it is up for debate.

Because he did no shit wrong, Thats why people are annoyed and calling him spineless. If he waved his hand and said ah my bad, and then continued his day and treated it as water under the bridge. There wuld be nothing, justa simple misunderstanding to be forgotten.. But cause he admitted to a mistake which wasnt even his fault and then started pandering to her by making her dinner, a complete stranger (regardless if shes cute or not) Is what gives people the shits. So they not wrong to call him spineless. And saying its just a teaser doesnt change that fact the MC looks spineless. Thats the first impression we get. Theres nothing else inside the teaser ot suggest otherwise.

So right now we are seeing a character that has very little backbone. Then add on the fact this mother is banging some dick girl behind his back, and the MC did catch on, but pretended to be ignorant or wont say anything about it after they had pushed him out of home with an ulterior motive. So they could bang without him being there.

If the dev does intend him to be spineless like this, then its fine if its the vision of his game. Until its made clear on this, people will get the shits.

 

[icollectsouls]

Because he did no shit wrong, Thats why people are annoyed and calling him spineless. If he waved his hand and said ah my bad, and then continued his day and treated it as water under the bridge. There wuld be nothing..

Is that really the case though? You're not the writer of the story (and neither am I) so we have no idea how Chloe would've reacted if he tried to just brush off what happened. Who's to say that she wouldn't just get more pissed by the MC just trying to treat it like it was no big deal? I almost wish the dev would add that path now so we could see just how spectacularly it would blow up in his face.

But cause he admitted to a mistake which wasnt even his fault and then started pandering to her by making her dinner, a complete stranger (regardless if shes cute or not) Is what gives people the shits.

Chloe's really not a "stranger" at that point though. After walking in on her (causing her to faint) and making sure she's okay, MC already gets confirmation that she's going to be his roommate. He even gets to know her better because he goes "oh hey I'm hungry, you're hungry, let's have dinner" and then they talk about games! Literally all he's doing is just building the foundation for an actually good relationship with the girl he's going to be sharing a room with for... however long he's going to be sharing it with her for.

Then add on the fact this mother is banging some dick girl behind his back, and the MC did catch on, but pretended to be ignorant or wont anything about it after they had kicked him out of home.

MC doesn't care about the fact that Leyna's fucking his mom because he's not another incestuous porn game character. He just goes "oh damn okay Mom, good for you" and moves on with his life like a normal person. Would you act weird if your (apparently single) mother found a girlfriend? Hopefully not!
Also, no, they didn't kick him out of the house either. The timing for him to start learning at the university is very abrupt, sure, but he decides to go on his own accord and his mom even says that she'll take him home if he doesn't like it after a week... which is not a situation where I'd describe anyone being "kicked out," really.

 

[Illuminati00]

Okay, full stop. Why even participate in the discussion that much if you haven't even played the game and judged it for yourself? I don't even want to bother replying to the rest of your post now, I'm just floored by this tbh.

Because the discussion is barely about the contents of the game , it's always been about you being angry at people's complaints. It began with you telling people to not complain and to play other games instead, calling their comments useless and vomit. Whether I've played the game or not is irrelevant to the discussion. I honestly don't care if you are ''too floored'' to respond, it just means one less angry commenter.

 

[icollectsouls]

Because the discussion is barely about the contents of the game , it's always been about you being angry at people's complaints. It began with you telling people to not complain and to play other games instead, calling their comments useless and vomit.

Except my main complaint is people calling the MC "spineless" and "ballless," and the MC is, by default, an important component to the game. My other issue was the posts about how this isn't a "true harem" or whatever because of the (planned, not yet implemented) lesbian tag (because girls in the harem might do sexual things with each other) and acting like the MC won't have any girls to himself when we haven't even got to any point in the story where the MC fucking someone would more naturally come into play.

Whether I've played the game or not is irrelevant to the discussion.

I just think if you're going to try and defend other people's comments about how they don't like the game, it'd probably be a good idea to, I dunno, actually play the game and form your own opinion on it?

 

[Nobles]

Who's to say that she wouldn't just get more pissed by the MC just trying to treat it like it was no big deal? I almost wish the dev would add that path now so we could see just how spectacularly it would blow up in his face.

Ah yeah, good idea, then see how many people hate her more......... Add more fuel to the fire.

 

[Wilwock]

The MC being a pushover works well if there's going to be futa on male. Jus sayin

 

[molitar]

Story looks interesting but can you please make that scene with Leyna and your mother not show Futa. Since it's optional it would be nice to somehow hide that part. Thanks.

 

[Professional Degenerate]

Story looks interesting but can you please make that scene with Leyna and your mother not show Futa. Since it's optional it would be nice to somehow hide that part. Thanks.

As Titch says in the introduction to the game, disabling the girl dick fetish will prevent your character from having a sexual relationship with any futa characters and significantly reduces the camera's focus on them however they will still occasionally be shown naked, 99% of the time in a non sexual context, e.g. here where the two of them are just relaxing together nude.

 

[tempboi7]

As a man with a shortstack gamer gf...

MORE ADORABLE GOBLIN GIRL IN CUTE UNDIES PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE. Need more cute gobbo content and would kill for a side story with her and other gobbos.

 

[Professional Degenerate]

As a man with a shortstack gamer gf...

MORE ADORABLE GOBLIN GIRL IN CUTE UNDIES PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE. Need more cute gobbo content and would kill for a side story with her and other gobbos.

I'm glad to say Chloe will be one of the main love interests for the player and have a lot of content in the full release of episode 1. As for other goblin girls, well I have a few plans.