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VN Ren'Py Twisted Fates [Ep. 4] [Aigas]

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linkinn

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Was enjoying the game a lot, very good story, good characters, good models... then the last scene hit. Not sure if it's going to be a recurrent theme, but unfortunately this tainted the whole experience for me, a totally unnecessary forced scene.

We can't really call it what it's supposed to be called because MC is not interested in her, but she's into MC, leading the player to believe we have a shot with her in the future, then being forced to see that scene.
 

XV71

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its good that its avoidable now and as long as the dev doesn't force you to get with saire this game can still be great
 

Kalsan

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its good that its avoidable now and as long as the dev doesn't force you to get with saire this game can still be great
If I where you I wouldn't be optimistic because this type of thing will become pretty recurrent judging by the devs discord and by the fact that the dev find scenes like that hot.

My only doubt is that if dev's reasoning is literally "The best h-scenes are lesbian ones" why making a male protagonist game? For LIs to rape and cuck the MC with other LI? For dragging the MC getting laid until the ends of times? That must be it because we obviously come to a male protagonist harem game exclusively for the lesbo sex right? I swear the mental gymnastic this dev pull is legendary.
 

linkinn

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If I where you I wouldn't be optimistic because this type of thing will become pretty recurrent judging by the devs discord and by the fact that the dev find scenes like that hot.
She's going to the party that the sister and friend are attending.. so i'd expect more rape/"NTR" in the next updates.

If that's what the dev is planning i'am definitely not coming back for future updates, thanks for the heads up.
 

Jimskeleton

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its good that its avoidable now and as long as the dev doesn't force you to get with saire this game can still be great
The problem for me and I'm sure others is, making it avoidable now is really too late, and it also proves that it's been done once so can be done again.

The whole meeting Sharon thing bugged me as well even before we got to the rape, dev says she isn't a LI, what was the purpose of us as the reader being told that she is really into the MC then, to me that information was almost as pointless and unnecessary as the rape scene itself.

Someone prior mentioned about the tags at the top can only reflect the content that is already in game, which I'm well aware of, but that excuse doesn't work in a defence to this developer, he was clearly asked very early on for future tags, nowhere was lesbian, mind control or rape mentioned what so ever, considering this is only the second update after the initial release unless the developer is writing the entire story on the fly they had to have known that this was coming, why not just be honest about it from the get go, this backlash/criticism wouldn't have happened because the people who didn't like them tags would have left it alone.
 

JohnF95zone

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The problem for me and I'm sure others is, making it avoidable now is really too late, and it also proves that it's been done once so can be done again.

The whole meeting Sharon thing bugged me as well even before we got to the rape, dev says she isn't a LI, what was the purpose of us as the reader being told that she is really into the MC then, to me that information was almost as pointless and unnecessary as the rape scene itself.

Someone prior mentioned about the tags at the top can only reflect the content that is already in game, which I'm well aware of, but that excuse doesn't work in a defence to this developer, he was clearly asked very early on for future tags, nowhere was lesbian, mind control or rape mentioned what so ever, considering this is only the second update after the initial release unless the developer is writing the entire story on the fly they had to have known that this was coming, why not just be honest about it from the get go, this backlash/criticism wouldn't have happened because the people who didn't like them tags would have left it alone.
First and foremost, not everyone keep track of the game since it initial release (or read every posts on all the pages of this thread) and the 'background' story with the tags (and or planned kinks/contents) were only known by limited few.

Secondly, those members and players could have phrase their comments, criticisms, feedbacks, complaints to better reflect the reality of the issue i.e. it was NOT about the mind control, 'r' or 'NTR' or anything, but instead the lack of communication/warning from the developer about such controversial contents from the get-go. If you have proof that the dev hide information intentionally, then bring forth those evidences too otherwise it is just "he says, she says".

Because the issue seems to become more chaotic than it should be especially since so many people 'addressing' different or side issues instead of the main one.

Anyway, hopefully the issue with "mind control" and 'r' will no longer? happen with new players because the tags are there (unless someone deletes it and it happened all over again in future releases :ROFLMAO:).

I guess that's all that I have to add the discussion and will not be involved with any further discussion. I apologize if I had (mistakenly and unintentionally) derailed the discussion from the main issue one way or another. I honestly should just care less about anything, because the first 4 years of my time on this site was nothing but golden. Cheers.
 

XV71

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yikes dev finds lesbian rape content hot, this game doesn't have a good future, fully expecting a certain three letter word to be added to those tags eventually, adding mind control + rape is just pure degeneracy and the devs so out of touch he doesn't realize that, but it's all ok because it was lesbian content so that cancels out the mind control rape.

the dev himself :
"i know it is a rape scene but man it also a lesbian scene
people should enjoy it, not complain about it
i wonder how many rape porn had they watch in their life"
 

Kalsan

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yikes dev finds lesbian rape content hot, this game doesn't have a good future, fully expecting a certain three letter word to be added to those tags eventually, adding mind control + rape is just pure degeneracy and the devs so out of touch he doesn't realize that, but it's all ok because it was lesbian content so that cancels out the mind control rape.

the dev himself :
"i know it is a rape scene but man it also a lesbian scene
people should enjoy it, not complain about it
i wonder how many rape porn had they watch in their life"
Actually the scene is borderline NTR, a girl mind control and rape a girl with a crush on the mc, you change the girl for a boy and you have a text book case of NTR by any standard. But noooooo lesbians are hooooot.
 

Voez1999

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Actually the scene is borderline NTR, a girl mind control and rape a girl with a crush on the mc, you change the girl for a boy and you have a text book case of NTR by any standard. But noooooo lesbians are hooooot.
Not really ntr since MC and Sharon are not a thing so she's not really getting stolen from him. It's not even confirmed if she's Li and no just because she has a crush on mc it's instantly ntr neither because as of now she's not a love interest but it is still noncon rape.
 

Kalsan

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Not really ntr since MC and Sharon are not a thing so she's not really getting stolen from him. It's not even confirmed if she's Li and no just because she has a crush on mc it's instantly ntr neither because as of now she's not a love interest but it is still noncon rape.
Actually you made a fairly common mistake in the concept, NTR doesn't need a romantic relationship (girlfriend or wife) is extremely common that NTR is focused on family members, childhood friends, crushes or girls with crushes on the protagonist. So yeah that's literally text book NTR, you can search and find dozens of Japanese comics and games with a similar setting. Other common mistake is the she have to be "stolen" and that the protagonist need not to be aware of it.
 

JohnF95zone

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When it comes to tags, take note that this site has its own rules and list (check the link below for more). I just highlight 3 that are frequently mentioned. Anyone (most are) disagrees can bring their case to the site governing authority:p

Tags Rules And List [Updated 2021-05-02] link

Sexual Content:
NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
Rape [Forced or non-consensual sex.]

Non-Sexual Content:
Mind control [Forcing someone to do something on their own against their will, either with powers or via drugs.]
 
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Kalsan

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When it comes to tags, take note that this site has its own rules and list (check the link below for more). I just highlight 3 that are frequently mentioned. Anyone (most are) disagrees can bring their case to the site governing authority:p

Tags Rules And List [Updated 2021-05-02] link

Sexual Content:
NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
Rape [Forced or non-consensual sex.]

Non-Sexual Content:
Mind control [Forcing someone to do something on their own against their will, either with powers or via drugs.]
By the site definition the scene could easily be tagged as NTR
 

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Cevanth

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It has potential but the dev is clearly into that stuff, so I don't know... I had a weird feeling literally the moment I started the game and yeah, I'm glad that I was prepared otherwise I would be not angry but disappointed.

Best wishes to the dev because making these kinds of game are not an easy task, but, if it happens once it will happen again and something tells me that the game will be like that all the way to the end with all the girls involved. I hope I'm wrong tho, and if the dev chooses to take the game in another direction I will 100% try it out again.
 
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