VN Ren'Py Twisted Memories [v0.9] [BaiBai]

[IamUnderman]

The number of people in this thread, for a game, acting confused why people are annoyed the game isn't being updated is...odd. Let's not pretend we are here for the ambiance or conversation, people want the game and are pissed it has been delayed (to my count) four times over eight months.

 

[gargamel44]

Depends what you mean by natural stage

There's a decent amount of devs milking their games, I can think of at least 3 near-instantly but they all share the following characteristics:
1) Did not pause billing
2) Kept stringing people along that the update will be done soon
3) Admitted to not working on the game for a long while, with no justification at all

BaiBai could've done better by giving a heads up sooner than he did but other than that he doesn't really satisfy those criteria.

Admittedly, I have seen a few games where the dev paused billing with the intent of returning the month after and then they just get too busy to work on it so one month becomes three... and then six, and then they never get around to working on it again. BaiBai seems fairly confident that this ain't gonna happen, but all we can do is wait and see

You didn't need to respond with a full ass text assuming what a 10 words line meant to say. Intentions or manners don't matter, this is something typical because after all it's not a company doin these games, they are persons losing their free time in order to make some potential money doing something that they probably don't want to continue doing in the near future. It's natural that most devs end up being disinterested. It be like that.

 

[Master of Puppets]

The number of people in this thread, for a game, acting confused why people are annoyed the game isn't being updated is...odd. Let's not pretend we are here for the ambiance or conversation, people want the game and are pissed it has been delayed (to my count) four times over eight months.

And you think that makes their obnoxious whining any more acceptable?

 

[IamUnderman]

So, we are just accepting now that BaiBai saying the game was very nearly done in August was a lie right? The game was apparently on the edge of being done but he just couldnt find any real time to sit down at his pc and finish it....except he does have time to make renders with custom assets for Halloween nobody asked for and joke about CBT in his discord.

And to write small essays about how little time he has to...sit and write....

 

[dolfe67]

Depends what you mean by natural stage

There's a decent amount of devs milking their games, I can think of at least 3 near-instantly but they all share the following characteristics:
1) Did not pause billing
2) Kept stringing people along that the update will be done soon
3) Admitted to not working on the game for a long while, with no justification at all

BaiBai could've done better by giving a heads up sooner than he did but other than that he doesn't really satisfy those criteria.

Admittedly, I have seen a few games where the dev paused billing with the intent of returning the month after and then they just get too busy to work on it so one month becomes three... and then six, and then they never get around to working on it again. BaiBai seems fairly confident that this ain't gonna happen, but all we can do is wait and see

Yeah I'm not in the "dev's milking" camp but I'm not very optimistic for the future of this game.

 

[Dogorti]

So, we are just accepting now that BaiBai saying the game was very nearly done in August was a lie right? The game was apparently on the edge of being done but he just couldnt find any real time to sit down at his pc and finish it....except he does have time to make renders with custom assets for Halloween nobody asked for and joke about CBT in his discord.

And to write small essays about how little time he has to...sit and write....

What is the problem being? The guy is not currently charging anyone, so if the game comes back good and if not, well, shit happens.


It goes without saying that writing a short text explaining that he's okay and blah blah (which shouldn't be more than 10 minutes) is not the same as sitting down and writing a full update.

 

[IamUnderman]

What is the problem being? The guy is not currently charging anyone, so if the game comes back good and if not, well, shit happens.


It goes without saying that writing a short text explaining that he's okay and blah blah (which shouldn't be more than 10 minutes) is not the same as sitting down and writing a full update.

ignoring the custom renders that would have easily taken a few hours or...?

 

[MangaKing]

What is the problem being? The guy is not currently charging anyone, so if the game comes back good and if not, well, shit happens.


It goes without saying that writing a short text explaining that he's okay and blah blah (which shouldn't be more than 10 minutes) is not the same as sitting down and writing a full update.

I'm not up to the current drama but how is the dev who out right told everyone that the games on hold and paused subscriptions, somehow seemingly getting more flak then the ones who go radio silent. While it's unfortunate that it hasn't been updated, at the end of the day they showed far more integrity then a ton of other devs.

 

[shitass1001]

So, we are just accepting now that BaiBai saying the game was very nearly done in August was a lie right? The game was apparently on the edge of being done but he just couldnt find any real time to sit down at his pc and finish it....except he does have time to make renders with custom assets for Halloween nobody asked for and joke about CBT in his discord.

And to write small essays about how little time he has to...sit and write....

ignoring the custom renders that would have easily taken a few hours or...?

The annoying part is that you would be complaining if he didn't sit and write a short post about what's happening.

 

[mentosa]

The number of people in this thread, for a game, acting confused why people are annoyed the game isn't being updated is...odd. Let's not pretend we are here for the ambiance or conversation, people want the game and are pissed it has been delayed (to my count) four times over eight months.

I was one of those that probably were pissed the most, at least I complained, tried to reason with god or the ether or I don't know whom, even asked to release the unfinished version.



I was not a happy camper that rather than pushing though, 20 min. a day we would have had the update and some progress on top of that, Baibai just said - something came up, I'm stoping the billing and that's it. I mean at least tell me approximately what it is - health related? Studies? Work? Nothing, but "I don't think it matters anyway" - still remember.

Then I just understood that many people do not really think this game is a big deal. They play other games, inject escapism by other means into their lives. I realized I was too emotionally invested, it was the only game I waited for.

Emotionally I'm done with this game, through and through. If it does well - fine, I might play it, if it dies - then no big deal.

 

[Dogorti]

I was one of those that probably were pissed the most, at least I complained, tried to reason with god or the ether or I don't know whom, even asked to release the unfinished version.

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I was not a happy camper that rather than pushing though, 20 min. a day we would have had the update and some progress on top of that, Baibai just said - something came up, I'm stoping the billing and that's it. I mean at least tell me approximately what it is - health related? Studies? Work? Nothing, but "I don't think it matters anyway" - still remember.

Then I just understood that many people do not really think this game is a big deal. They play other games, inject escapism by other means into their lives. I realized I was too emotionally invested, it was the only game I waited for.

Emotionally I'm done with this game, through and through. If it does well - fine, I might play it, if it dies - then no big deal.

I understand you, but you also have to understand the dev, he is not obliged to share problems of his private life, and it is understandable that he does not want to launch the update in a barebones state because later here people do not understand that, I have seen a lot of hate in other threads to beta versions of games and people who don't understand what a beta version is. I understand that the dev wants to save himself that trouble.

 

[Simpgor]

Emotionally I'm done with this game, through and through. If it does well - fine, I might play it, if it dies - then no big deal.

No you aren't but since i like this meme:


You dont take screenshots and type multiple paragraphs for games you have no emotional investment in as a funny side note i wonder who the two people who downvoted baibai saying he wouldnt release it were

 

[mentosa]

No you aren't but since i like this meme:
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You dont take screenshots and type multiple paragraphs for games you have no emotional investment in as a funny side note i wonder who the two people who downvoted baibai saying he wouldnt release it were

Ironclad logic: "you posted a screenshot, you fucking simp for the game"

 

[mentosa]

I understand you, but you also have to understand the dev, he is not obliged to share problems of his private life, and it is understandable that he does not want to launch the update in a barebones state because later here people do not understand that, I have seen a lot of hate in other threads to beta versions of games and people who don't understand what a beta version is. I understand that the dev wants to save himself that trouble.

Intellectually, I understand that the dev is under little to no obligation to share neither the details nor the game.
A friendly gesture would have been nice and something for the fans that were funding the development over the months, perhaps half day update that would allow the fans to be happier and Baibai to take the break in peace. Don't know.

 

[Rizzler97]

i hope BaiBai life returns to normal. the Halloween renders look so good, damn i miss the girls and story. I'm wishing him the best.

 

[-Maniackanime-]

I was one of those that probably were pissed the most, at least I complained, tried to reason with god or the ether or I don't know whom, even asked to release the unfinished version.

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I was not a happy camper that rather than pushing though, 20 min. a day we would have had the update and some progress on top of that, Baibai just said - something came up, I'm stoping the billing and that's it. I mean at least tell me approximately what it is - health related? Studies? Work? Nothing, but "I don't think it matters anyway" - still remember.

Then I just understood that many people do not really think this game is a big deal. They play other games, inject escapism by other means into their lives. I realized I was too emotionally invested, it was the only game I waited for.

Emotionally I'm done with this game, through and through. If it does well - fine, I might play it, if it dies - then no big deal.

Peak Self Awareness. I really like to spread this mindset to everyone, being a slave to your emotion will lead into losing your rational self, being the Master of your own thoughts, will lead to mastering your emotion and then action.

And to add opinion into your thought, I only rarely cared if the update was ever late on a porn game. Though this is one of the rare games that I care about, but I treat them as delicacies, I check from time to time to see if the games I care, have updated and If it does I enjoy it thoroughly, If not I go back to my life and enjoy it. I don't care how long it is released as long as it is reasonable and worth it. Otherwise I just forget about the game. This mindset is thanks to Dr. Bones, thank you for the lessons, and I hope your stones are treating you with hospitality.

Point being the dev has been making a ton of good content and let him rest, his one of the good ones, let's not make this game dev life of his, a living hell, trying to satisfy our unlimited wants.

 

[w123t4]

Kind of expected, even if I am Baibai who had finished the 0.9 content I will still wait until december to release the update since december is the most important month for developer to earn moeny by releasing the update, solving the delayed game's update and earning money is just killing two birds with one stone.

 

[Ford Mustang]

Kind of expected, even if I am Baibai who had finished the 0.9 content I will still wait until december to release the update since december is the most important month for developer to earn moeny by releasing the update, solving the delayed game's update and earning money is just killing two birds with one stone.

It will out next year

 

[mentosa]

Kind of expected, even if I am Baibai who had finished the 0.9 content I will still wait until december to release the update since december is the most important month for developer to earn moeny by releasing the update, solving the delayed game's update and earning money is just killing two birds with one stone.

Interesting. What is the reason for that and how do you know it?

 

[MaxRichard]

Interesting. What is the reason for that and how do you know it?

Because every degenerate player is back at home with their landladies, roommates, aunts and cousins for the holidays, peeking into bathrooms, "watching" them sleep, conveniently having amnesia, helping them shop for clothes and swimwear...