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Cherubin25

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Will harem be forced with all the women in the primary group? I like em, and I do like Steph, but the heavy focus on her in the recent update got a bit tiring. I was tempted to press skip a few times.

Wasn't a fan of the Melena beach scene. Felt like a waste. She has that spice. Kinda reminds me of Margot Robbie.
It was answered here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/twisted-memories-v0-8-baibai.129520/post-12124405

Basically, you can have 6 Girls, 12 Girls, all the family members or all school members. And Solo Endings as well.

Regarding Stephanie - she will not be featured in the next episode. But I guess that she will have quite a lot of spotlight, given that she is one of the main girls and also hangs around with MC at least in school.
 

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It was answered here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/twisted-memories-v0-8-baibai.129520/post-12124405

Basically, you can have 6 Girls, 12 Girls, all the family members or all school members. And Solo Endings as well.

Regarding Stephanie - she will not be featured in the next episode. But I guess that she will have quite a lot of spotlight, given that she is one of the main girls and also hangs around with MC at least in school.
I just can't fathom a ending without Steph. All the other girls turn out somewhat ok even if it's not ideal for them.
Steph needs the MC as much as he needs her because in the OG timeline they both got sad fates.
 

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It was answered here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/twisted-memories-v0-8-baibai.129520/post-12124405

Basically, you can have 6 Girls, 12 Girls, all the family members or all school members. And Solo Endings as well.

Regarding Stephanie - she will not be featured in the next episode. But I guess that she will have quite a lot of spotlight, given that she is one of the main girls and also hangs around with MC at least in school.
Thanks for the info.

I think it'd be more believable if it was done in smaller pairings that have chemistry like Alyvia/Mya, Emily/Lola, Nina/Abigail etc. But yea, maybe that's too much work. Most characters barely get any screen time as is.
 

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Thanks for the info.

I think it'd be more believable if it was done in smaller pairings that have chemistry like Alyvia/Mya, Emily/Lola, Nina/Abigail etc. But yea, maybe that's too much work. Most characters barely get any screen time as is.
I mean, even if you have 12 girls in your Harem, this does not mean that they all have the same amount of time with each other. Simply because there is no connection between some characters at all. E.g. I cannot really see that the Mom will have anything to do with the daughter of the teacher.

And well, barely any screen time... This is something that will happen with that many LIs. And I guess we can expect the Main LIs having more screentime overall than the Side-LIs anyway (on top of having two routes instead of one).
 

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I mean, even if you have 12 girls in your Harem, this does not mean that they all have the same amount of time with each other. Simply because there is no connection between some characters at all. E.g. I cannot really see that the Mom will have anything to do with the daughter of the teacher.

And well, barely any screen time... This is something that will happen with that many LIs. And I guess we can expect the Main LIs having more screentime overall than the Side-LIs anyway (on top of having two routes instead of one).
tbh that's why I prefer shorter harems with a maximum of 5-6 girls and about 3 that are secondary, in this game it doesn't bother me much because almost all the characters are well done and well characterized. but it is true that sometimes it can be a little overwhelming, I don't understand those people who like harems with 40 girls lol.
 

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tbh that's why I prefer shorter harems with a maximum of 5-6 girls and about 3 that are secondary, in this game it doesn't bother me much because almost all the characters are well done and well characterized. but it is true that sometimes it can be a little overwhelming, I don't understand those people who like harems with 40 girls lol.
I think the optimal number is 7 and this should usually be the maximum. Because in the end, there is the balance between giving content to every girl and also catering to people who want content for their favorites.

But I think the 12 girls here will work.
 

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I think the optimal number is 7 and this should usually be the maximum. Because in the end, there is the balance between giving content to every girl and also catering to people who want content for their favorites.

But I think the 12 girls here will work.
Eh, I don't think there is an optimal number. It all depends on the game, I know a game that managed over 20 without them feeling like they got too little content. But thats also a rpgm game, where adding content is faster. But yes, in general, it will be easier to manage for the dev with fewer characters involved. I think baibai is managing quite well currently.
 

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I think the optimal number is 7 and this should usually be the maximum. Because in the end, there is the balance between giving content to every girl and also catering to people who want content for their favorites.

But I think the 12 girls here will work.
7? Like one girl for each day of the week? :)
 

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BaiBai_ I really love your game! I saw some other folks offer to help with proofreading, and I would like to throw my hat in the ring for that as well. If you need any help with that, please don't hesitate to reach out!
Ditto. Writing is my day job, and while I don't think the writing itself needs to be changed, I am happy to help proof if needed.
 

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tbh that's why I prefer shorter harems with a maximum of 5-6 girls and about 3 that are secondary
I agree. Games that meander away from developing the main girls to sidetrack towards numerous side girls get annoying, personally. That said, someone posted a screenshot of the dev's roadmap, and the sidegirls are optional for a "super harem" ending. The main girls will get their own leaner harem ending, and even their own solo endings, which is nice.
 
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Man if Steph doesnt get some sort of good end in whatever of these solo routes MC doesn't choose her would be incredibly disappointing. If MC is to get a good end in this alternative timeline, so should she imo. :giggle:
 
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Man if Steph doesnt get some sort of good end in whatever of these solo routes MC doesn't choose her would be incredibly disappointing. If MC is to get a good end in this alternative timeline, so should she imo. :giggle:
Exactly. I'll never see those endings if that's not the case. Also aside from Cat the ending for all the main girls without the MC seems really melancholy especially now that they love him.
I just can't see a solo ending being a good thing for the rest of the main girls.
 

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there's obvious 4 Netori events waiting
Alyvia, Clements, Julia and Catherine
although Catherine should be yours by now since her corruption route is the most logical
and true route imo, else why do you even bothered to think of blackmailing Aden for??
but i do respect those who went for Catherine Seduction route
I am both route just to see the story difference
and corruption route seems to be right choice
especially when MC showed Catherine ass and passed it off as Stephanie
i can assure you i went back to check for the legitimacy
????? Um, thanks?
This information, while helpful ( to others), has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote. And you're the second one......
Like really?? I didn't think I made it that hard to understand.....oh well, noted for later examination.
 

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Exactly. I'll never see those endings if that's not the case. Also aside from Cat the ending for all the main girls without the MC seems really melancholy especially now that they love him.
I just can't see a solo ending being a good thing for the rest of the main girls.
Yeah, considering how a lot of the playerbase is it's going to be weird. Like its going to be pretty interesting how dev handles having them split away from MC in the end in these solo routes.

IIRC he doesnt have any where there's combos of like 2-3 of them? Though the sisters or sisters + mom or sister(s) + steph are kinda plausible to be done. (Maybe a short scene for the ending based on affinity tbh without a lot of hoops being jumped through, just have whatever harem scenes the same without the others present? idk).

Could just be a variant of whatever the harem ending will be without whatever characterse/etc arent part of it as the wrinkle to fit the situation with minimal need to do entirely separate content. Slightly different dialogue or whatever.

I don't think of anything wrong with that being fleshed out more in an update after the story itself is "finished."
 
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Yeah, considering how a lot of the playerbase is it's going to be weird. Like its going to be pretty interesting how dev handles having them split away from MC in the end in these solo routes.

IIRC he doesnt have any where there's combos of like 2-3 of them? Though the sisters or sisters + mom or sister(s) + steph are kinda plausible to be done. (Maybe a short scene for the ending based on affinity tbh without a lot of hoops being jumped through, just have whatever harem scenes the same without the others present? idk).

Could just be a variant of whatever the harem ending will be without whatever characterse/etc arent part of it as the wrinkle to fit the situation with minimal need to do entirely separate content. Slightly different dialogue or whatever.
I would feel better if there was a friend route for the main girls but instead they aren't missable. MC is gonna woo them and bang them then drop them after all the we're together forever sweet talk at the end. Doesn't seem right to me so I'll prolly never see those endings.
 

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Is the new seduction Route scene with steph that different? Dont exactly want to start a new play through just to get that event since it could take hours
 

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Exactly. I'll never see those endings if that's not the case. Also aside from Cat the ending for all the main girls without the MC seems really melancholy especially now that they love him.
I just can't see a solo ending being a good thing for the rest of the main girls.
Emi and aliviya ended up doing alright. I am pretty viki too eventually got over her crush and found someone else. Only stephi had the bad ending
 

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Development update – 300 & Changes

(Huge wall of text)

Its always the same thing, as soon as the update out I'm so relieved that I can't help but to forget just how bad the development process actually was. It was bad though and still, I can't really think about anything worthwhile to say about it that everyone who followed it wouldn't be aware of already. Neither do I want to make any promises about it getting better from now on, after all, words are wind.

Still, as I have mentioned it a few times before, there will be some changes of how I handle things with this subscribestar page and the development updates in particular. Some of you might not like these, as you will be getting less, but I want to try at least something to improve things a little bit. In that regard it doesn't even matter whether you think the wait for v0.8 has been worth it or not, because if I keep up the pace of the last few updates I will either develop this game until I'm old and grey or until I actually end up losing my motivation for it, which would be a shame as I really love the story and characters I got going on here.

Anyway, lets get to the meat of the changes:

Weekly development updates: I still want to keep the development updates on a weekly basis, meaning every Sunday, as I feel like this holds me accountable at least a little bit. What I do not want to do anymore however is posting stuff in these that doesn't have anything to do with the actual development (meaning non-game related renders). At the same time however, there is no realistic way for me to have something visual to show for every week. Accordingly I decided that from now on the weekly development updates will be text only (apart from special occasions such as holidays or like now with a subscriber milestone).

Monthly development showcase: Instead, there will be one development showcase at the last Sunday of every month where I put all the visuals like map or character previews, teasers and so on. By doing it monthly I should be able to have something to show for every time without feeling the need to render something unrelated just for the sake of it.

Bonus renders: Of course, I won't stop with the bonus renders completely. They are too much fun to do and when I have an idea for something I can hardly stop myself from doing so anyway. These won't be on a schedule though and I will only post them as I do them. Also, I will be posting these to tier 2 from now on, to give the tier a bit more of a point.

Bonus scenes, animations and MMDs: The same thing goes for all the bonus content of tier 3. I already changed the wording back to “sometimes” instead of “once every update”. I will only do and post these as I feel like it. Also you probably shouldn't expect any more bonus scenes, expect I really, really have something I can't stop myself from doing. What you can expect however, are MMDs, as I do quite enjoy doing these.

To put it short:

Tier 1:
Weekly text only development updates, monthly development showcase with visuals

Tier 2: Sometimes bonus renders

Tier 3: Sometimes bonus animations (mostly MMDs probably)

That's pretty much it. I hope you don't dislike these changes too much and if you do, I hope you understand where I'm coming from with them.

Road to v0.9

Now, a few words regarding v0.9.

The past week I've mostly been busy with v0.8 and with relaxing a bit. I'm almost done with adding the h-sfx to all the lewd scenes from the past few updates, so I should be able to upload that in the coming days and after it I should be able to properly start development on v0.9.

I also did a tiny bit of mapping just to get the feel of things again. V0.9 will only need two new map and neither of which are close to as big as the beach map or as complex as the mall map. The first one I need is the inside of Viktoria's home, for which I already made some decent progress with most of the living room and Viktoria's room done, the second I'm not 100% sure yet. In my mind I always have it as a construction site (which would be good because there are a lot of assets for that), but I will probably wait with doing this one until I've written the scene, as its pretty important to know how the characters are supposed to move through the map when building it.

Anyway, as I said, no more visuals in development updates apart from special occasions. Accordingly, let me thank you for over 300 subscribers with these sweaty spartan warriors ready to get rid of the excess adrenaline of battle. 6a599e79-1b40-4ab2-9a2f-d2162f5cabd0.png 32589bed-9a93-4ef7-90c0-0e8c79ebeda2.png
 
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