VN Ren'Py Twisted Memories [v0.9b] [BaiBai]

[Burger767]

should be in the settings section top right here circled in blue for ya
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Not this one, it must be because I'm using a translated version

 

[justonemore20]

Not just her, pretty much all characters that where smaller than Alyvia have increased in height between v0.8 and v0.9. In general the heights have been pretty messed up from the beginning of the game and for the most part I scaled them up and down on a render to render basis depending on whom they stood next to so that it doesn't look to weird. I just fixed that after v0.8 for more consistency.

After reading this I needed an in-game example just to see how much of a difference the change in height would make, so I took these.

Spoiler: Differences in game

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And I gotta say, what a growth spurt. I like the game too much to complain about this but it made me wonder 2 things.

1. Did you also change the values in the stats when you changed her height?.

Spoiler: This ones

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¿Or is her current height the new standard of her original value?, Like, now that value represents her new height instead of her old one. I'm not sure if you actually changed this or not in this update, I don't have the previous version anymore and don't remember if it was the same or not.

2. ¿Would you one day go back and remake that part to adjust it to their new changes or we just move on and accept it like it is?, I don't have a problem with the later, is just a question that I got when you mention that you fixed the height changes for the sake of consistency. Although if I'm honest I can imagine the pain that it would be to go back and change all that.

 

[Xythurr]

After reading this I needed an in-game example just to see how much of a difference the change in height would make, so I took these.

Spoiler: Differences in game

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And I gotta say, what a growth spurt. I like the game too much to complain about this but it made me wonder 2 things.

1. Did you also change the values in the stats when you changed her height?.

Spoiler: This ones

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¿Or is her current height the new standard of her original value?, Like, now that value represents her new height instead of her old one. I'm not sure if you actually changed this or not in this update, I don't have the previous version anymore and don't remember if it was the same or not.

2. ¿Would you one day go back and remake that part to adjust it to their new changes or we just move on and accept it like it is?, I don't have a problem with the later, is just a question that I got when you mention that you fixed the height changes for the sake of consistency. Although if I'm honest I can imagine the pain that it would be to go back and change all that.

Damn that is pretty jarring. I've been trying to not dwell on it but this stuff sticks out to me constantly too. Consistency is important in my opinion but like you I love the game...

 

[DrkRed]

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Not this one, it must be because I'm using a translated version

No Lapk os tradutores mudam os menus dos jogos, aí eles devem ter tirado a opção.

 

[jnrcndl]

damn even i am falling in love with alyvia i hated her at first but as the story goes on she became my favorite

 

[BaiBai_]

After reading this I needed an in-game example just to see how much of a difference the change in height would make, so I took these.

Spoiler: Differences in game

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Yeah, when you show me those images I don't like what I'm seeing either but still, and you might call it me doubling down, I think its for the best of it. Emily in particular but many other characters as well where simply way too small. Even the MC with his old height could barely reach the ground when sitting on a chair, I always had to scale him up or make his buttocks clip halfway through the chair for him to sit somewhat normally. It was simply ridiculous and you guys have to understand how annoying it is to see the same issues over and over again while knowing full well that I could just do it better.

¿Or is her current height the new standard of her original value?, Like, now that value represents her new height instead of her old one. I'm not sure if you actually changed this or not in this update, I don't have the previous version anymore and don't remember if it was the same or not.

I haven't updated these numbers yet but I'll have to revisit the stats pages for v0.10 anyway so I'll do it then. Its not very pressing anyway since for the majority of the game the old heights are still accurate.

2. ¿Would you one day go back and remake that part to adjust it to their new changes or we just move on and accept it like it is?, I don't have a problem with the later, is just a question that I got when you mention that you fixed the height changes for the sake of consistency. Although if I'm honest I can imagine the pain that it would be to go back and change all that.

For the same reason I changed the heights, it is very much itching in my fingers to rerender the old scenes to make them better, the difference here being that this would be an actual huge time investment and I'm in the lucky position that there are a whole bunch of stuff in the future I'm way more excited to create than the old stuff annoys me. If everything goes well I'm sure there will be an opportunity for me to do a visual update of the old scenes at some point but until then I'm afraid to say that you'll have to look at the game as somewhat of a journal of me learning with all the inconsistency's that come with it.

 

[Bobjock]

Yeah, when you show me those images I don't like what I'm seeing either but still, and you might call it me doubling down, I think its for the best of it. Emily in particular but many other characters as well where simply way too small. Even the MC with his old height could barely reach the ground when sitting on a chair, I always had to scale him up or make his buttocks clip halfway through the chair for him to sit somewhat normally. It was simply ridiculous and you guys have to understand how annoying it is to see the same issues over and over again while knowing full well that I could just do it better.


I haven't updated these numbers yet but I'll have to revisit the stats pages for v0.10 anyway so I'll do it then. Its not very pressing anyway since for the majority of the game the old heights are still accurate.



For the same reason I changed the heights, it is very much itching in my fingers to rerender the old scenes to make them better, the difference here being that this would be an actual huge time investment and I'm in the lucky position that there are a whole bunch of stuff in the future I'm way more excited to create than the old stuff annoys me. If everything goes well I'm sure there will be an opportunity for me to do a visual update of the old scenes at some point but until then I'm afraid to say that you'll have to look at the game as somewhat of a journal of me learning with all the inconsistency's that come with it.

Please don't worry about the old scenes, they are fantastic as they are

 

[Anmity]

For the same reason I changed the heights, it is very much itching in my fingers to rerender the old scenes to make them better, the difference here being that this would be an actual huge time investment and I'm in the lucky position that there are a whole bunch of stuff in the future I'm way more excited to create than the old stuff annoys me. If everything goes well I'm sure there will be an opportunity for me to do a visual update of the old scenes at some point but until then I'm afraid to say that you'll have to look at the game as somewhat of a journal of me learning with all the inconsistency's that come with it.

Please do try to avoid starting on the rerenders/remasters/remakes, I've lost interest in way too many titles that do that because it feels like development of new content comes to an almost complete halt once they start with it. And even if you think they are bad, I don't think it's at the level where it prevents people from playing your game.

 

[Bobjock]

You really are a wonderful artist BaiBai. All artists feel like they can do better. All of the people here appreciate what you have already accomplished. Don't get yourself down, please know that you are doing a great job. Thank you Sir

 

[CringLucifer]

Yo when's the next update

 

[NotSoTasty]

Yeah, when you show me those images I don't like what I'm seeing either but still, and you might call it me doubling down, I think its for the best of it. Emily in particular but many other characters as well where simply way too small. Even the MC with his old height could barely reach the ground when sitting on a chair, I always had to scale him up or make his buttocks clip halfway through the chair for him to sit somewhat normally. It was simply ridiculous and you guys have to understand how annoying it is to see the same issues over and over again while knowing full well that I could just do it better.


I haven't updated these numbers yet but I'll have to revisit the stats pages for v0.10 anyway so I'll do it then. Its not very pressing anyway since for the majority of the game the old heights are still accurate.



For the same reason I changed the heights, it is very much itching in my fingers to rerender the old scenes to make them better, the difference here being that this would be an actual huge time investment and I'm in the lucky position that there are a whole bunch of stuff in the future I'm way more excited to create than the old stuff annoys me. If everything goes well I'm sure there will be an opportunity for me to do a visual update of the old scenes at some point but until then I'm afraid to say that you'll have to look at the game as somewhat of a journal of me learning with all the inconsistency's that come with it.

Please, when you're going to change it in the future, leave it for us somewhere where we can revisit the old scenes again, they still look nice. Plus, as you mentioned, that's a lot of not really needed work that can be spend on something more worthwhile.

 

[dolfe67]

Yo when's the next update

Yo in several months

 

[duckydoodoo]

Yo in several months

when you say it out loud and so bluntly like that, it hurts

 

[Alandir]

I like the new heights. They looked quite a bit too small before. This was very noticable in some scenes, like the one with stephs father. Sure, the inconsistency might be annoying, but who cares. It doesn't really matter.
I agree that reworking old scenes is very rarely a good idea. Your skills are just gonna keep improving and if you keep remaking old stuff just because you got better, you will just end in a never ending cycle of rework.
Besides. The game looks fine. None of the issues in the earlier chapter is atrocious. I really don't see a reason to rework everything now. You can see your improvements but it won't even be close to worth the time investment.

 

[xsikal]

I like the new heights. They looked quite a bit too small before. This was very noticable in some scenes, like the one with stephs father. Sure, the inconsistency might be annoying, but who cares. It doesn't really matter.
I agree that reworking old scenes is very rarely a good idea. Your skills are just gonna keep improving and if you keep remaking old stuff just because you got better, you will just end in a never ending cycle of rework.
Besides. The game looks fine. None of the issues in the earlier chapter is atrocious. I really don't see a reason to rework everything now. You can see your improvements but it won't even be close to worth the time investment.

^^^ All of this.

 

[Cherubin25]

I like the new heights. They looked quite a bit too small before. This was very noticable in some scenes, like the one with stephs father. Sure, the inconsistency might be annoying, but who cares. It doesn't really matter.
I agree that reworking old scenes is very rarely a good idea. Your skills are just gonna keep improving and if you keep remaking old stuff just because you got better, you will just end in a never ending cycle of rework.
Besides. The game looks fine. None of the issues in the earlier chapter is atrocious. I really don't see a reason to rework everything now. You can see your improvements but it won't even be close to worth the time investment.

Plus the next Update will basically conclude Chapter 1 and Chapter 2 will basically be a different game with a new Download. Would really be a waste of time to now rework past scenes.

 

[MaxRichard]

I like the new heights. They looked quite a bit too small before. This was very noticable in some scenes, like the one with stephs father. Sure, the inconsistency might be annoying, but who cares. It doesn't really matter.
I agree that reworking old scenes is very rarely a good idea. Your skills are just gonna keep improving and if you keep remaking old stuff just because you got better, you will just end in a never ending cycle of rework.
Besides. The game looks fine. None of the issues in the earlier chapter is atrocious. I really don't see a reason to rework everything now. You can see your improvements but it won't even be close to worth the time investment.

We need a clapping reaction or a 100 so we can react to posts like this one

 

[justonemore20]

Yeah, when you show me those images I don't like what I'm seeing either but still, and you might call it me doubling down, I think its for the best of it. Emily in particular but many other characters as well where simply way too small. Even the MC with his old height could barely reach the ground when sitting on a chair, I always had to scale him up or make his buttocks clip halfway through the chair for him to sit somewhat normally. It was simply ridiculous and you guys have to understand how annoying it is to see the same issues over and over again while knowing full well that I could just do it better.


I haven't updated these numbers yet but I'll have to revisit the stats pages for v0.10 anyway so I'll do it then. Its not very pressing anyway since for the majority of the game the old heights are still accurate.



For the same reason I changed the heights, it is very much itching in my fingers to rerender the old scenes to make them better, the difference here being that this would be an actual huge time investment and I'm in the lucky position that there are a whole bunch of stuff in the future I'm way more excited to create than the old stuff annoys me. If everything goes well I'm sure there will be an opportunity for me to do a visual update of the old scenes at some point but until then I'm afraid to say that you'll have to look at the game as somewhat of a journal of me learning with all the inconsistency's that come with it.

Yeah, I get it. I think it didn't convey well in my post but I was actually meaning something along the lines off "¿Once you finished the game, would you go back and remake the old stuff to add the new changes and release something like a definitive version?, I would definitely hate it if my comment drove you to halt the progress of the game to redo the old content, I already know one game that did that and it was horrible.

I would probably shoot myself if my comment where to be the reason the game was paused. That is, if the people in this forum and the ones supporting you don't track me down and shoot me first.

 

[Alandir]

Yeah, I get it. I think it didn't convey well in my post but I was actually meaning something along the lines off "¿Once you finished the game, would you go back and remake the old stuff to add the new changes and release something like a definitive version?, I would definitely hate it if my comment drove you to halt the progress of the game to redo the old content, I already know one game that did that and it was horrible.

I would probably shoot myself if my comment where to be the reason the game was paused. That is, if the people in this forum and the ones supporting you don't track me down and shoot me first.

I'm searching for your adress as we speak. /s

 

[Raoddik]

Slowly playing the new update (so far it was great) but, with all what was said, I must admit that Emi sometimes look weird next to the Lola, like hear head is little too big, or it's just me, on some it looks ok so maybe it's just perspective, I don't know.