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but the latest version was supposed to be released in September. It's not normal to spend so much time on the translation.
Well, at least translation will be swift this time, since AI translation now is free and simply superb. Heck, I read novels in MTL with relish, while just 2 years ago it was extremely painful to read.
 

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Well, at least translation will be swift this time, since AI translation now is free and simply superb. Heck, I read novels in MTL with relish, while just 2 years ago it was extremely painful to read.
"Simply superb" is a strong and somewhat untrue statement. Is it much more easy to read than 2 years...hell even 1 year ago? Absolutely. Is it superb? Nope, still a lot of "huh!?" moments in them. BUT you do get to avoid when translators try to add in their own little....spice to the characters. Looking at you Kaguya Games. I'll never let you live down whatever the hell that translation for Kozue's Strange Journey was supposed to be.
 

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"Simply superb" is a strong and somewhat untrue statement. Is it much more easy to read than 2 years...hell even 1 year ago? Absolutely. Is it superb? Nope, still a lot of "huh!?" moments in them. BUT you do get to avoid when translators try to add in their own little....spice to the characters. Looking at you Kaguya Games. I'll never let you live down whatever the hell that translation for Kozue's Strange Journey was supposed to be.
Yeah, that's one reason why I don't love this idea, every writer has a distinct style, I love how Baibai does the narration during the sex scenes so we'll see how this intervention of the AI tool affects the quality, the way I see it in the best case scenario it helps with typos and stuff but allows him to edit the text the way he wants it to be.
 
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"Simply superb" is a strong and somewhat untrue statement. Is it much more easy to read than 2 years...hell even 1 year ago? Absolutely. Is it superb? Nope, still a lot of "huh!?" moments in them. BUT you do get to avoid when translators try to add in their own little....spice to the characters. Looking at you Kaguya Games. I'll never let you live down whatever the hell that translation for Kozue's Strange Journey was supposed to be.
Yeah. But if you are a source and know both languages - all that's left is edit. And since the quality of translation is really high now - it will be a breeze.


Yeah, that's one reason why I don't love this idea, every writer has a distinct style, I love how Baibai does the narration during the sex scenes so we'll see how this intervention of the AI tool affects the quality, the way I see it in the best case scenario it helps with typos and stuff but allows him to edit the text the way he wants it to be.
Funny you said that - my main critique of this game was that it had quite a bit of typos xD
But I afraid the AI maybe a bit too smart and translate correctly even if there is a typo by fixing it itself, thus leaving the typo in original? Or maybe it will make the typo more glaring, bringing devs attention to it and fixing it in both?
 
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Funny you said that - my main critique of this game was that it had quite a bit of typos xD
But I afraid the AI maybe a bit too smart and translate correctly even if there is a typo by fixing it itself, thus leaving the typo in original? Or maybe it will make the typo more glaring, bringing devs attention to it and fixing it in both?
Baibai's gonna need to be very specific with the instructions, but at this point I'll take it, anything in order to keep him going, few things are more sad than someone who lost the passion and drive for a project.
 
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As it has the remake for the model/plots in future updates, I don't see there will be any improvement for the update frequency in the nearly future.
 

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Was this very post translated with an LLM?
Because it's very rare to encounter the phrase "to do something with relish" in real life. :D
To be fair, english is not my native language, and, chances are, I got this saying from MTLed novel I read xD
 
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I’d argue that in reality, the speed of updates is a bigger advantage than their quality. All top projects eventually fall into this pit — the gap between updates becomes so huge that you could graduate from university, get married, and have a kid in the meantime. And unfortunately, once you reach that stage in life, you’ll have far less time for games — especially for ones that are, to put it mildly, questionable for an average person.


Most of the current top projects, including this one, will probably keep coming out for at least another five years — meaning 90% of its original audience will never see the ending. And there’s a huge chance that not even the developer will see it, because in an endless chase for quality at the expense of speed, he might lose all motivation and abandon the project halfway through.
 

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I’d argue that in reality, the speed of updates is a bigger advantage than their quality. All top projects eventually fall into this pit — the gap between updates becomes so huge that you could graduate from university, get married, and have a kid in the meantime. And unfortunately, once you reach that stage in life, you’ll have far less time for games — especially for ones that are, to put it mildly, questionable for an average person.


Most of the current top projects, including this one, will probably keep coming out for at least another five years — meaning 90% of its original audience will never see the ending. And there’s a huge chance that not even the developer will see it, because in an endless chase for quality at the expense of speed, he might lose all motivation and abandon the project halfway through.
Damn dude, bleak take, and kind of simplistic, isn't that how it always is? games take a lot of time and people abandon things for life stuff, you don't feel it beacuse theres a bunch of them coming at you every day, but I think talking like people are incapable to wait (granted a bunch of them are) feels like such a bummer and an exageration, this situations of dev time becoming longer it's just a reality that many people ignore, specially in the independent sector of gaming. It's an odd situation where you have more contact with the people responsible for the things you enjoy and that fuels entitlement because it's not a faceless corporation. I do agree that it's counter productive to chase perfection in your first project, the usual advice is to make stuff and get better at it along the way but I think the problem here is the intention to be a solo endeavor, theres many examples of teams that do great and keep themselves motivated. It makes me sad the situation with the game but I prefer to give the creative people the space they need without pestering about, a balance is need, that much is truth.
 

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Damn dude, bleak take, and kind of simplistic, isn't that how it always is? games take a lot of time and people abandon things for life stuff, you don't feel it beacuse theres a bunch of them coming at you every day, but I think talking like people are incapable to wait (granted a bunch of them are) feels like such a bummer and an exageration, this situations of dev time becoming longer it's just a reality that many people ignore, specially in the independent sector of gaming. It's an odd situation where you have more contact with the people responsible for the things you enjoy and that fuels entitlement because it's not a faceless corporation. I do agree that it's counter productive to chase perfection in your first project, the usual advice is to make stuff and get better at it along the way but I think the problem here is the intention to be a solo endeavor, theres many examples of teams that do great and keep themselves motivated. It makes me sad the situation with the game but I prefer to give the creative people the space they need without pestering about, a balance is need, that much is truth.
So many people don't understand creative work, and i include coding under creative work. Not to mention project management, sadly it's also not always the strong suit of the devs themselves. Both extremely important aspects of creating a video game, especially for solo or small dev team. The further along in the project you are, longer it will take since there's more things you have to consider and more things that can be messed up. Now i do agree with people, that most solo devs or small dev teams that do their projects by crowdfunding don't communicate well with customers/patrons. But that is to be expected since they rarely have anyone that is actually trained in that, or have people that have time to do it.

Personally i don't mind if dev feels like they need to change something they did earlier to make the game better match their vision. But they should only do it in bits, while also constantly working to produce new content. There's few devs that have actually made it so that have reworked earlier parts of the game, but also at the same time brought new content in the updates.

Also it's not so black and white which is better, being solo dev or having dev team. I've seen multiple projects fall apart due to conflicts within dev team or a member of dev team going radio silent. Personally i think BaiBai works quite well as a solo dev and haven't seen reason to worry about things most people complaining here do. So far he has been pretty open and honest, not to mention he does actually interact here, which is good sign in my opinion.Though i do worry for devs that are too active in this site, i've seen too many of them losing their mojo by the shitty whining some entitled people do. That post same inane negative shit, just to complain. Reading that kind of toxic shit is exhausting and i've seen multiple devs ending up abandoning their projects because of that. To clarify, i'm not saying you can't criticize devs, of course you can, but try to provide the criticism in actually constructive manner. That way it can actually be of use for the devs. No one wins when people just attack others like that.
 

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And by not you mean November?
Only Baibai could answer that, but he doesn't like to give dates. He's working on the coding, so it shouldn't be long now. But since this will be the last version before moving on to the second chapter, he wants everything to be done properly (gallery, walktrough etc.).
 
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Question: Among the players, did you prefer to choose corruption or seduction? And which one do you think is better?
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