Cogiworth

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Hopefully this is the case.

But he did already retcon Emi to age her up, claiming it was about aesthetics when we all know it had to be about pressure from somewhere that was income-related. With there being precedent for changing well-established parts of the game I understand people's anxiety about more and more significant changes potentially being the explanation for the long delay.

The elephant in the room obviously being the story's family aspect, which has been the main target for the religious zealots over the last couple years, a coordinated campaign that shows not sign of abating because nobody in the dev world is actively fighting back. Increasing delays in new content absolutely serve to intensify worries that major revisions might be the cause of the delay. We have all seen it happen a LOT in recent updates of other games (family content excised after longer-than-usual delays).

But you are right that BaiBai should have the benefit of the doubt until the next update drops. And we can even hope that the delay somehow instead turns out to be part of a real pushback by a major dev against censorship. :cool:
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I don't think there was any rewrite of the dialogue for Emi though. Just a change in the model for new scenes and the old scenes were still the same. That was frustrating because the excuse was obviously flimsy at best and downright BS at worst. If there was a real talk breakdown on the change I think people would have been upset for a bit but would have relented.

Trust is a very strange thing and it only takes one or two bad updates to sour a game for months or years. The excuse for a slight visual change was flimsy but perhaps believable enough for some people but set the bar very low for what is willing to be tolerated. If there were a dialogue change as well it would mean not only was the original excuse a lie but paid subscribers would have been strung along for a year supporting something they may not have wanted to. I don't mean to grandstand or anything similar but I personally would drop my sub simply because of the slimy nature of such an act. Ironically if the same change was done with transparency my support wouldn't end immediately. (Though I would be displeased)

BaiBai does deserve a bit of faith in the meantime as their work is very well done and as long as something similar to the original premise is delivered most will have nothing to complain about. The timeframe for the release needs to be worked on though because we shouldn't be expected to affirm the good work that is done vocally since a financial supporter innately gives praise by supporting a project. Supporting anything beyond a year with nothing to show for it is just... difficult to justify.

Best case scenario the renders were just a bit difficult but we got a lot of great scenes and being a perfectionist BaiBai has just been dragging through these last few months. We will have no major changes and the models are similar enough that most people won't be able to tell the difference. People grumble about it taking too long and we settle into a likely yearly release schedule.

Worst case the renders were difficult and we only have a few scenes. The time was spent rewriting major tracks of the game and the majority of the renders were redoing the Emi and Lola scenes along with making the MC taller in their other scenes requiring major redos of everything. People will be pissed and many will feel betrayed. Even if the scenes are great it will cause a flame war and the series will have a dramatic ending since support will fall off a cliff.

I don't expect the worst case but I am afraid of it, personally I expect maybe a little less than the best case but that is just me being optimistic and hopeful. That worst case seems more and more likely the longer we wait for the update.
 

HH-Games

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Twisted Memories [v0.9b]
Translation patch for 19 languages


Language
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(19 languages support bilingual display with English)
Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Turkish, Thai, Spanish, Russian, Portuguese, Polish, Italian, Indonesian, Hindi, German, French, Dutch, Arabic, Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean, Chinese.English


Usage:

PC:

Please make sure to back up your game and save files.D
ownloading the "patch.zip", After extracting,You can simply copy the extracted "game" folder into your "game" folder.Since the translation files are quite large, loading may take a bit longer at first time.Inside the tl folder, you can keep your preferred language.
Some languages require changing the font to display correctly. After changing the font, you need to restart the app for it to take effect.



ANDROID Download and install the APK file:
  1. Select Basic — contains only the core game data. You can play while downloading, and all browsed data will be stored on your phone, so it won’t need to be downloaded again next time.
  2. Select Data — includes all game data. Except for about 1 KB of data loaded on the startup screen, no additional network data will be used.”
After importing the data, restart the app. Tap the red text to see the imported games.
If app doesn’t run, please update “WebView” in the Play Store.



IPAD/Iphone:
You can download and install the IPA if you’re able to sign IPA yourself.
Select Data




If you encounter a bug that affects the game’s operation, please switch to English to bypass it.



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Download:

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jI11jaCksjAkk

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Worst case the renders were difficult and we only have a few scenes. The time was spent rewriting major tracks of the game and the majority of the renders were redoing the Emi and Lola scenes along with making the MC taller in their other scenes requiring major redos of everything. People will be pissed and many will feel betrayed. Even if the scenes are great it will cause a flame war and the series will have a dramatic ending since support will fall off a cliff.

I don't expect the worst case but I am afraid of it, personally I expect maybe a little less than the best case but that is just me being optimistic and hopeful. That worst case seems more and more likely the longer we wait for the update.
Yeah, I am optimistic about the update until proven otherwise.

But I still think the Emi changes are very relevant to the increasingly pessimistic mood, because BaiBai fundamentally changed an aspect of the game that a lot of players liked. Minimal changes or not to the dialogue in that case were not what pissed people off.

And even if that was not a main reason for other players to play the game, it set a bad precedent of removing a feature that brought players in to play the game. Once you break the glass on trust as a dev you can never fully close the door to that angst amongst players again. I understand why he probably felt he had to do it money wise, and can also imagine many reasons beyond $ too (e.g., someone in their personal life found out about it and threatened to cause problems if he didn't). But the fact remains he has already changed a major aspect of a well-established game way beyond the early stages of development, which is not something players forget.

The baseball saying "3 strikes and you're out" may work for some players, but I'm closer to "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." I'm withholding judgement for now and hoping for the best, but if the update ends up being a knuckling-under to censorship by a vocal minority (especially after promises to never do so) then that would be it for me and I would not wait around for a 3rd strike. But, of course, as an F95 pirate I understand that making me happy or not is not any dev's priority, so I don't think I would feel 'betrayed' just disappointed & sad. :cry:
 

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Happy New 2026 Year ! Wish for all of us that in 2026 at least two new updates of our favorite visual novel Twisted Memories will be released ! To BaiBai_ wish a lot of new rich subscrubers and supporters in new 2026 year !
My present to this thread: NNN
I love how it's a mix of the Corruption and Seduction routes, stuff with Catherine which means corruption, and stuff with Alyvia and raw sex with Stephanie which means seduction
 
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