VN Ren'Py Twisted Memories [v0.9b] [BaiBai]

[Killerkaz88]

I am reading a alot of the comments today. Unclear, is the Dev abandoning the game low key? Or are they just straight out playing people, saying "Oh yearly release only?" Then before the next year hits abandon the game?

 

[HentaiKami]

I am reading a alot of the comments today. Unclear, is the Dev abandoning the game low key? Or are they just straight out playing people, saying "Oh yearly release only?" Then before the next year hits abandon the game?

He's not abandoning the game. You can find out more by reading the dev logs people have posted.

 

[ca6YSHYO-VupnVoa]

I am reading a alot of the comments today. Unclear, is the Dev abandoning the game low key? Or are they just straight out playing people, saying "Oh yearly release only?" Then before the next year hits abandon the game?

The dev has not given any clear indication that the game will be abandoned. Had a bit of a panic about remaking the game to change various not-safe-for-credit-card-companies themes in the game, though it seems the dev has calmed down from that. Comments are more just people reading the writing on the wall, the development of this game has slowed down to a crawl, the dev has dragged out updates being near release for months, and at one point last year even just admitted he was lying about working on the update when he had actually taken a break. This game isn't going to survive updates taking this long, it's most likely going to be abandoned at the rate things are going.

 

[Chemistree]

I don't think you understand the point of donating, you're not paying for a product, it's not like kickstarter where you can pay for the product and if you give more money you could get more stuff or like any retail store; the point of using patreon is to give your pocketchange or any amount or disposable income you don't need so that the people receiving that money can keep going with their current project and possiby do more in the future, that's how patronage works. Of course many awful devs take advantage of this so they slow as much as possible the workflow and the updates are thin in content. If what you want is to pay one time then just like any other game in the market you'll have to wait for the complete version.



Exactly, and it's even worse when you take in considerations how much pression for a perfect update Baibai strives for, not even acounting that life can be a bitch and working on your spare time get's even harder.

We've got ourselves a retard here.

 

[Cherubin25]

We've got ourselves a retard here.

Nope, they are completely right. You think you are smart with your one-liner, but indeed donating does not mean that you pay someone for a product.

 

[Justonemore20]

We've got ourselves a retard here.

You want to know what is really retarded? You, TosaTo (who I've seen complaining about this A LOT of times and always takes the chance of anyone complaining to join in and complain AGAIN), and every other "troll" in this thread, you guys are probably going to download the next update as soon as it is released. Then after a few months of said update, you'll start complaining about it yet again.

You're just fans with no patience that act like starving animals when you don't get what you want soon enough. Can you PLEASE stop complaining about the same shit all the time? Now every time I see a Twisted Memories thread notification, I just immediately think to myself, "Who is complaining this time?" "¿The same ones or a new one?" "Why can't these people just go away if they don't like the author of the game?"

As far as I know, this is not Baibai's main source of income; he has a life, so unless you want to pay him enough money for him to abandon everything else in his life and just make AVNs for you, he doesn't owe any of you anything, and if he wants to abandon the game, there is nothing we can do, just the same as if you were the developer. You guys bitching about the same thing every 3 days just increases the chances of him getting fed up and leaving.

And before you say the typical: "I donated money to him; I have the right to complain because I gave him my money." Subscribestar (which is the one he uses) is a donation site, you don't buy shit; you donate, like in a church. Are you entitled to take the church property or to decide when the sermons are going to be just because you gave them five dollars of donations? NO. You donate so the church keeps running so you can keep coming back and to help the people running it. Now that you know that, who is the retarded one, the one you called out, or you?

 

[nalgonas4ever]

We've got ourselves a retard here.

Wow dude, ok, I admit I tend to be dumbfounded when stuff I believe should be common sense/knowledge it's bastardised by others, like I totally understand how the concept of Patron between other donating platforms as well as the concept of patronage as well have been distorted by the internet, enought to call someone a fanboy or retard when my default reaction isn't entitlement or plain nagging when I don't get instant satisfaction. Maybe this is your outlet and that's fine, annoying at worst but that's life, hope it gets better for you as it is for me when I stoped spiting just hate to others.

 

[nalgonas4ever]

Thinking about way for Baibai to lessen the lenghts of the updates I came a cross a plan that to my understanding could be very good or very bad in a good way:

We have seduction and corruption as the possible ways the story unfolds, I only have played until the update previous to the last one so bear with me, but I believe theres not that much of a diference aside for contained scenes and actions, so it could be a productive way to just focus on one route for a while, that way the work to do between updates lessens and maybe there could be room to make the routes more unique.
Something like "This is the wholesome update: hugs kisses and handholding fro everybody!! see you in 3-4 month with the degenerate update where you give your cumsluts what they deserve!".

I know this sounds very ludicrous at best, to begin with we already have to wait a good while for content to cut it down in bite sizes, so my two cents are that one the problems was that the scope of the update kept growing, with a more focus plan Baiba could narrow the points to take in each update, the script could advance quicker since it would only mean to adjust it acording to the route updated and the QoL changes could also acomodate for the value of the update insted of bloating it.

Just a thought since I've seen other devs doing similar stuff.

 

[DrkRed]

I'll give BaiBai an idea for the next updates. They will probably take the same amount of time to produce. Divide the day into three parts: morning, afternoon, and evening, and then try to release an update every four months. A day in Twisted Memories has enough content for that.

 

[Alandir]

Thinking about way for Baibai to lessen the lenghts of the updates I came a cross a plan that to my understanding could be very good or very bad in a good way:

We have seduction and corruption as the possible ways the story unfolds, I only have played until the update previous to the last one so bear with me, but I believe theres not that much of a diference aside for contained scenes and actions, so it could be a productive way to just focus on one route for a while, that way the work to do between updates lessens and maybe there could be room to make the routes more unique.
Something like "This is the wholesome update: hugs kisses and handholding fro everybody!! see you in 3-4 month with the degenerate update where you give your cumsluts what they deserve!".

I know this sounds very ludicrous at best, to begin with we already have to wait a good while for content to cut it down in bite sizes, so my two cents are that one the problems was that the scope of the update kept growing, with a more focus plan Baiba could narrow the points to take in each update, the script could advance quicker since it would only mean to adjust it acording to the route updated and the QoL changes could also acomodate for the value of the update insted of bloating it.

Just a thought since I've seen other devs doing similar stuff.

Corruption and Seduction share a lot of content with each other, I doubt it would put enough of a dent into production time.

 

[Justonemore20]

Thinking about way for Baibai to lessen the lenghts of the updates I came a cross a plan that to my understanding could be very good or very bad in a good way:

We have seduction and corruption as the possible ways the story unfolds, I only have played until the update previous to the last one so bear with me, but I believe theres not that much of a diference aside for contained scenes and actions, so it could be a productive way to just focus on one route for a while, that way the work to do between updates lessens and maybe there could be room to make the routes more unique.
Something like "This is the wholesome update: hugs kisses and handholding fro everybody!! see you in 3-4 month with the degenerate update where you give your cumsluts what they deserve!".

I know this sounds very ludicrous at best, to begin with we already have to wait a good while for content to cut it down in bite sizes, so my two cents are that one the problems was that the scope of the update kept growing, with a more focus plan Baiba could narrow the points to take in each update, the script could advance quicker since it would only mean to adjust it acording to the route updated and the QoL changes could also acomodate for the value of the update insted of bloating it.

Just a thought since I've seen other devs doing similar stuff.

That brings their own sets of problems; people who play both paths would be happy regardless, but people who only play one path though... Let's say I only play the seduction path, and it just released the update; now in 3-4 months there will be a corruption update, so for me to actually play new content, I'll have to wait 7-8 months. Then if the corruption chapter arrives without problems but the seduction one suffers a delay, I'll be waiting the same 1 year for the content of an old regular update that was split in half, and in the long run that delay of the seduction path would also affect the corruption updates because it would just mess up the whole release schedule. People that only play for one path will tear each other and the developer apart.

Also, making the routes more unique would make the development time take longer for each regardless.

 

[nalgonas4ever]

I'll be waiting the same 1 year for the content of an old regular update that was split in half, and in the long run that delay of the seduction path would also affect the corruption updates because it would just mess up the whole release schedule. People that only play for one path will tear each other and the developer apart.

Oh man, didn't think of that, I was looking at it more from the perspective of compartmentalize the update's workflow, I read DrkRed's idea and think it could also work.

 

[gift350]

I also commented on that before, if v0.11 will take similar amounts of time as v0.10 or v0.9 there will be no v0.12. Other devs can pull it off but I'm not build for these development times, I need my regular dose of reassurance. So no, no yearly updates going forward.

Whatever the present status of .10 now is, this, unironically, gives me a little more hope going forward. Porn or not, few things drive an creator more than wanting to be praised for what he's created. Here's hoping things get a little better.

 

[Cherubin25]

I'll give BaiBai an idea for the next updates. They will probably take the same amount of time to produce. Divide the day into three parts: morning, afternoon, and evening, and then try to release an update every four months. A day in Twisted Memories has enough content for that.

This is a good approach IMO. There are enough LIs to fill some progression with them and some lewd scenes into each period of the day - you have the school and the LIs there in the morning, afternoon can be spent on other LIs or the progression of the potion business and evening is for some steamy action with the remaining LIs.

MAYBE the evening might turn out to not have enough story around the lewd scenes, because morning and afternoon should provide enough ways to progress the story, but might be tricky in the evening.