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Hu Lilac

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Right, so I've not played the remake yet as I'll wait for the public version (might as well get the best version if I am to play it), but I've been catching up on all the back and forth that has occured. From what I gather it seems that this half of a prologue wasn't what everyone had envisioned. Which is a shame.

My guess is that a lot of what is available in the prologue just isn't what initially got us all into the game. Which realistically is probably the main cast (family, doctor and the rest). It sounds like the nameless and faceless NPC's are doing a slight disservice to the game early on serving no other purpose other than content fluff. And while more action is always welcome in a hentai game I could see how it would maybe feel a little "cheap"? "anticlimactic"? after waiting all this time for a remake. Hell I personally didn't care much about the heaven and hell stuff in the og game myself. The biggest draw for me was Nora, Tomoe and Jill. And it's definetely a little sad to think that if it wasn't for the remake there probably qould have been more content with them by now. But I don't think anyone here ever argued the remake was needed. The reason any of us are here talking about the remake is most likely because we were big fans of the og work! But, the remake is happening and so we can only hope that it will deliver on qualitt that will make it worthwile.

And that's the other thing I've read here. The remake is well made. What has been released seems to be a really sokid foundation for all the future work and an actual upgrade from the og. People are just upset because it doesn't have the content they want or hoped for yet. Be it quantity wise or character wise it's failed to scratch that itch the last version of the og left them with. Which is a fair way to feel. Again the fact that this game has been remade does suck. But this isn't all this game is fated for. At least I hope that each update will add onto the game and get around to all of the characters as well as mew plont points that we want to see. Snats is still the same dev that managed to make that og work of art. In an ideal world they should be able to deliver a great product in due time. Yes, hopefully the updates are more regular and impactful. Idk jack-squat about game development so I have no idea how impressive or dissapointing the time to actual game development improvement ratio is, but I do know that it can't be easy especially if you're learning it all on the fly while doing it solo. So while I wouldn't financially support such an uncertain development schedule (again hopefully this first release is the start of it improving) I'm not gonna bash the dev as long as they keep working on the game.

So yeah from the sound of it the rework didn't do well in instantly giving everybody that feeling of "ah yes this is exactly what I missed from this game" but hopefully is a good start to a brand new chapter of Snats's work as a game dev. That or I'll play the public release and join in on the pithcfork raising insanity, who knows.

Ah as for the whole $100 tier argument it's entirely pointless. Twitch/Youtube/Kick/Whatever streamers have donation pages where you can donate unlimited dollars to get a message read or something to that extent and they're not considered greedy. Patreon just requires you to actually set donation amounts because it encourages a stricter structure for rewarding said donations. High tiers are just there for those who really want to donate and the perks at those amounts are more of an acknowledgement of their generosity than genuine incentives to buy that specific tier (again I don't think most people want to pay $100 to work as beta testers it's just a right given to them as they're more likely to be very motivated and involved in seeing the game get made).
while i did play the leaked version, i will, however, agree with 99% of this. (99% because i ain't joining in with the pitchforks to raise insanity) we also have to both remember AND consider that this initial release is just the first part of the prologue, so that means that there's in fact much more to come.
 

Reiyayru

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It sounded like Snats was confident about releasing the whole Prologue by now last month but with unforeseen delays he could only get the first half out. Based on what I've read so far it's been a mixed bag so based on that I'll probably wait till the second half of the prologue to try it. Now while I am a bit disappointed to read that after a year we're only getting 30-40 minutes of content but have been more or less keeping up with news so know Snats has been working on characters, backgrounds and stuff so not too a big deal. What will be a big deal is if the hospital stuff doesn't come out any time soon with how Snats was announcing the release and since he's already got so much done with the assets and characters if the next few updates takes a while and they are short then I'll be very disappointed and probably not bother with it anymore. Loved the original and am hoping for the same level for the remake, especially with what I've seen and read so far.
 

eternalkaiser

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Right, so I've not played the remake yet as I'll wait for the public version (might as well get the best version if I am to play it), but I've been catching up on all the back and forth that has occured. From what I gather it seems that this half of a prologue wasn't what everyone had envisioned. Which is a shame.

My guess is that a lot of what is available in the prologue just isn't what initially got us all into the game. Which realistically is probably the main cast (family, doctor and the rest). It sounds like the nameless and faceless NPC's are doing a slight disservice to the game early on serving no other purpose other than content fluff. And while more action is always welcome in a hentai game I could see how it would maybe feel a little "cheap"? "anticlimactic"? after waiting all this time for a remake. Hell I personally didn't care much about the heaven and hell stuff in the og game myself. The biggest draw for me was Nora, Tomoe and Jill. And it's definetely a little sad to think that if it wasn't for the remake there probably qould have been more content with them by now. But I don't think anyone here ever argued the remake was needed. The reason any of us are here talking about the remake is most likely because we were big fans of the og work! But, the remake is happening and so we can only hope that it will deliver on qualitt that will make it worthwile.

And that's the other thing I've read here. The remake is well made. What has been released seems to be a really sokid foundation for all the future work and an actual upgrade from the og. People are just upset because it doesn't have the content they want or hoped for yet. Be it quantity wise or character wise it's failed to scratch that itch the last version of the og left them with. Which is a fair way to feel. Again the fact that this game has been remade does suck. But this isn't all this game is fated for. At least I hope that each update will add onto the game and get around to all of the characters as well as mew plont points that we want to see. Snats is still the same dev that managed to make that og work of art. In an ideal world they should be able to deliver a great product in due time. Yes, hopefully the updates are more regular and impactful. Idk jack-squat about game development so I have no idea how impressive or dissapointing the time to actual game development improvement ratio is, but I do know that it can't be easy especially if you're learning it all on the fly while doing it solo. So while I wouldn't financially support such an uncertain development schedule (again hopefully this first release is the start of it improving) I'm not gonna bash the dev as long as they keep working on the game.

So yeah from the sound of it the rework didn't do well in instantly giving everybody that feeling of "ah yes this is exactly what I missed from this game" but hopefully is a good start to a brand new chapter of Snats's work as a game dev. That or I'll play the public release and join in on the pithcfork raising insanity, who knows.

Ah as for the whole $100 tier argument it's entirely pointless. Twitch/Youtube/Kick/Whatever streamers have donation pages where you can donate unlimited dollars to get a message read or something to that extent and they're not considered greedy. Patreon just requires you to actually set donation amounts because it encourages a stricter structure for rewarding said donations. High tiers are just there for those who really want to donate and the perks at those amounts are more of an acknowledgement of their generosity than genuine incentives to buy that specific tier (again I don't think most people want to pay $100 to work as beta testers it's just a right given to them as they're more likely to be very motivated and involved in seeing the game get made).
You hit the nail on the head....

The ppl who are mad wanted the entire og game on release of the remake...

But ppl like me who sub to the 2 buck teir to keep up with news. Knows he was not gonna drop the whole damn 2 years woth of remade old game in this ( also he changed some plot points, like u meet ur father in this version at some point, where we never met him in the og).

Dude is angood dev. He only every relased updates 2 times a year before this ( every 5 or 6 months) idk why ppl thought he relese a whole rewoked game in 8 or 10 months......but ppl be unrealistic, and it's always the ppl who don't support devs who are mad, how does that work?
 
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You hit the nail on the head....

The ppl who are mad wanted the entire og game on release of the remake...

But ppl like me who sub to the 2 buck teir to keep up with news. Knows he was not gonna drop the whole damn 2 years woth of remade old game in this ( also he changed some plot points, like u meet ur father in this version at some point, where we never met him in the og).

Dude is angood dev. He only every relased updates 2 times a year before this ( every 5 or 6 months) idk why ppl thought he relese a whole rewoked game in 8 or 10 months......but ppl be unrealistic, and it's always the ppl who don't support devs who are mad, how does that work?
Some of yall just be talking and putting words in people mouths. To say this is the weakest update he ever drop is a fair analysis. Assuming someone who dont like this update never paid for his patron is a weird argument to stand on. Also turning 13months into 8 to 10 months show ur lying just to protect his image for some random reason. Also i posted a screenshot of my patreon supporting him in a previous post since that the only thing that make someone opinion valid to you.
 

Egris

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I don't like that you can miss content based on atributes and interactions now, is unnecesary tbh and a pain to unlock all the gallery, i hope is only in the prologue and not in the rest of the game, the models got a huge improvement also they look beautiful and really polished, overall really fucking good.

Also if you want to see more content just play the normal version for now, it has HOURS of gameplay and fap material.
 

HerreroA

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It sounded like Snats was confident about releasing the whole Prologue by now last month but with unforeseen delays he could only get the first half out. Based on what I've read so far it's been a mixed bag so based on that I'll probably wait till the second half of the prologue to try it. Now while I am a bit disappointed to read that after a year we're only getting 30-40 minutes of content but have been more or less keeping up with news so know Snats has been working on characters, backgrounds and stuff so not too a big deal. What will be a big deal is if the hospital stuff doesn't come out any time soon with how Snats was announcing the release and since he's already got so much done with the assets and characters if the next few updates takes a while and they are short then I'll be very disappointed and probably not bother with it anymore. Loved the original and am hoping for the same level for the remake, especially with what I've seen and read so far.
20 minutes at max, at least this first part of the prologue
 
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well after looking at the hidden 5 CGs, I think this update is a bit disappointing, but it still acceptable. The focus of this argument is actually on the entire preface is divided into two parts by snats.for some unavoidable reasons,. Based on the old game, it can be expected that the hospital part must have much more content than the hell part, that makes the content of the hell part appear less and disappointing

But I also hope that brothers who love this game can give snats some time to prove themselves. I believe he is not someone who will casually abandon a game he has been developing seriously for many years.just play the old game and give him more time.When the hospital partis finally released, let's discuss whether this game is worth waiting for so long

And I don't care about those fk $100 arguments.This is the opportunity snats gave to those who voluntarily donated large sums of money to test bugs.yes not giving equal opportunities to all donors is indeed a mistake, but it is not a reason for people to abuse him.
 

jems666

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"v0.1 is massive with over 20 crazy sex scenes and 2 hour of content you stupid trolls!"
All those dudes writing whole essays while dickriding snats real quiet lately :LUL:
The fact that snats been posting updates for 8 months of content that won't be out in the first half of 2024 is just funny, why are you working backwards almost like you're milking... :ROFLMAO:
"this will make future updates come out so much faster!" yeah we'll see about that, if the next update is out in 1-2 months and it's the whole hospital and 1-2 more months is their apartment and the beach and all then yeah I'll be surprised. :BootyTime:
 
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