DragonkingKyo

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You are mistaken Dragon, doing a patch to turn men into women is a matter of modifying some areas of a character, and since the characters are made on a computer and not hand-drawn it can be done reasonably easily. Creating alternate scenes is far more work.
how is it far more work when they would probably have to make alternate scene either way plus I said "or not have a scene play there at all"
 

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how is it far more work when they would probably have to make alternate scene either way plus I said "or not have a scene play there at all"
Because with a patch you are making minor modifications to existing scenes, not making different scenes. Imagine you write a 5 page essay, what would be easier making modifications to your already existent essay or writing a new essay? Of course writing a new essay would be more work, and similarly making a different scene is more work than modifying an existing one.

Having a lot of scenes that will be skipped would not only be an inefficient use of the developer's time, it would also pose a major problem if the scene is tied into the story/character development creating the need to rewrite the story so you have one for those who skip and another for those who didn't and this would only get more complex as you go on.
 

DragonkingKyo

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Because with a patch you are making minor modifications to existing scenes, not making different scenes. Imagine you write a 5 page essay, what would be easier making modifications to your already existent essay or writing a new essay? Of course writing a new essay would be more work, and similarly making a different scene is more work than modifying an existing one.

Having a lot of scenes that will be skipped would not only be an inefficient use of the developer's time, it would also pose a major problem if the scene is tied into the story/character development creating the need to rewrite the story so you have one for those who skip and another for those who didn't and this would only get more complex as you go on.
the author said that patch would mess up the story anyway and it wouldn't makes sense so doing the skip(truly avoided) and/or alternative scene would preserve the story more then the patch
 

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bro ive played enough games over the years to not care about how many dicks ive seen in this game tbh, if u can skip them that's great but the content in this game is so good it literally outweighs the amount of dicks u see so it doesnt phase me. whatever this dev will put out will be great regardless u can tell bc of how fast this game has boomed and it's only a v0.1/less than a week old. if you played it you know there's a lot of quality over quantity too. just trust in the dev please, dont scare this one away with whatever ntr/futa controversy i just blindly scrolled past lmao(this is a common thing with new games i see lately so dev if u read this dont be discouraged xd)
 
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Obnoxious_Bi

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Loved the art style and characters in this game! ngl that seeing a late teen shota with a huge cock is a nice add jeje. Forward to seen the next updates! sooo sad to read at the end that all the game data was lost in November, rip
 

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I think if people have such a huge issue with the trap and futa stuff not being avoidable they should probably just skip this one. The dev hasn't made any more comments about the subject so I think it's safe to assume it won't be avoidable. The discussion has become very repetitive and it's not going anywhere. If you go to the discord server everyone seems to be on board with all the content and I am assuming the same thing applies to patreon otherwise they wouldn't be supporting him, the only place where this seems to be a problem is here.
The issue is that if people follow your advice there might not be enough patreons to provide sufficient financial support for the project. Of course, there are people that like the trap/futa stuff, but there are even more who don't, so if it's possible to remedy the situation (with the aforementioned patch) in a manner acceptable to both sides, that would be the wisest thing to do for the dev since that wouldn't alienate patreons/players. Keep in mind that the developers make games not just so some people would like it, the devs also want to be compensated sufficiently for their time and effort so the more people like the game the better.
 
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thevoid089

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Very interesting and funny demo, I'll keeping my eyes on this game. About the traps/futas content: I don't really mind them much if they look like cute girls and that the MC under my control was dominating them and force all of them to become his bitches
The sharing content between traps/futas with the girls should have been depend on the player choices and SHOULD only be accept if MC having a part in it too, like having threesome or even foursome with MC being the lead
 
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thevoid089

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Done with the demo, holy shit this is 1 of the best game even if it was the first demo. Dr Nomura was truly the babe and the entire family was very interesting, I'm always be very patience with many games but this one is the first game that make me want a new update to coming out as fast as possible
 

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I'm replaying this demo like 12 times now and still can't stop, it was simple yet so good game. I feel ashamed that we can't rape the Angel in the intro or having some boobjob fun with those demon futas (...yet), and those traps actually very cute and girly enough to fall into my liking list (even though I'm straight and don't like machos gay sex games, tomgirl was the only content I have soft spot for me to reach yaoi teritory)
And the MC was Alpha too, really want new update to come out fast just to see him slap those girls/tomgirls ass and put them into their place
 

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The issue is that if people follow your advice there might not be enough patreons to provide sufficient financial support for the project. Of course, there are people that like the trap/futa stuff, but there are even more who don't, so if it's possible to remedy the situation (with the aforementioned patch) in a manner acceptable to both sides, that would be the wisest thing to do for the dev since that wouldn't alienate patreons/players. Keep in mind that the developers make games not just so some people would like it, the devs also want to be compensated sufficiently for their time and effort so the more people like the game the better.
Problem there is basically the game gets watered down from the original idea, and becomes just another RenPy game using Koikatsu renders.

Devs make games to cater to certain audiences that would like their ideas, and catering to everyone, when that wasn't the original intent ends up ruining the game in the long run.
 

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Just out of curiosity, why does the Incest patch not the base game and the non-incest should be the patch instead ? Cause in my honest opinion. Without reading the text dialogue, one glance at the picture next to the sick bed would tell that they are his families and not friends. So why ?
 

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Just out of curiosity, why does the Incest patch not the base game and the non-incest should be the patch instead ? Cause in my honest opinion. Without reading the text dialogue, one glance at the picture next to the sick bed would tell that they are his families and not friends. So why ?
Because of Patreon's rule, they didn't allow incest content in porn games so the developer or some Modders had to make a separate patch
 
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thevoid089

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Exactly, if the dev takes away all the things that people are complaining about here, it becomes just another generic harem game. The reason why it gained 100 patrons in one week after just one release is because the game is different from all those other games.
Agreed! I love this game because of it silliness, self aware story, the half serious and half not taking serious tone, unique (or rarely made) world setting, hot sex scenes,... but the thing that truly sell to me was the Alpha attitude of the MC: He's know himself and didn't need to act like a scaredy cat or tried to be a nice virgin boy but an Incubus on the mission to having sex with women and tomgirls of that world and would likely doing so even if resolve in raping some of them, but most likely would at least keeping himself in control and using his charm and manipulation skills and ability to have a go with them first. For example with Dr Nomura, MC knew something is odd the moment she's acting toward him and immediately exploit it and taking advantage of her and now she was nothing but a slut that would dance in his palm and would do anything for him.
That's what truly make me interest in the demo and want to see him doing similar to his new family, and I want to see him come out and be on top and dominate that world and later would do the same with both Heaven and Hell too
Because of that I'm pretty much okay with traps/futas or even furries content if you decide to add them in the game SnatsGames , just make sure every updates in the future would keep the tone just like with this first demo
 
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ShinKazama

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Fucking hell this game is too good, man! I didn't even care my that my ultra-potato PC had like 3 thermal shutdowns in the process to ending the demo, the moment I saw the angels and demons I was in... Then came the family and I was hooked... And then those perfect assed traps appeared and I'm addicted to this game.

Snats, you are definitely on the short list of devs I would support if I had money, you really have a diamond of a game here!
 

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This demo has the potential to be the best adult game out there. It's fantastic, I love the art design, and the characters are great and have choices for every taste. Personally I can't wait to see content with the mom and trap sister. The animations and voice acting is really the icing on the cake. Amazing job.
 

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You know what, if the next update was focus on every members of this family I'll start from the left to right: That gloomy sister would be my first target then I'll move to the trap brother and last would be the tomboy one, the Mom would be the final meal to end the feast. Gosh, look at those pillows...You would feel very safe even in a car crash, and I would let the MC to sleep on them every night if we got the option to sleep together with her
 
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