Ren'Py Twisted World [v0.1.5 Remake] [SnatsGames]

[Reiyayru]

Ironic as can be, I've been gone far longer than any of you come back and you all still have been dribbling this bs out of your mouths for endless months. Don't act like there's legit discussion going on here you've just continuously beaten the same horse for months on end with the exact same bs on loop. Take your own damn advice, you need it far more than me.

Then stay gone, no one is keeping you here. Also why would I take my own advice, the fact that you think we've been saying the exact same thing for only a single reason shows you lack reading comprehension, the inability to process information and probably lazy and an idiot just to add insult, while it has been the similar posts it's been about multiple things Snatz has done, took a year claiming to work on the game and making it so he can get it out faster, that was bull, put out an update that was half an update for a prologue that was delayed, bull, keeps making small random drip dev logs acting like he's "hard" at work on the game, it's been over 6 months from the first half of the update and the second one isn't even close to being done, so lots of bull, was shown to want more money to start on another game despite this current one not even close to being released, bull, has baby back bitches like yourself who pretend they have a moral high ground when in reality you just enable and allow devs and creators who are getting money to make a product to not have to work, milk their community and get away with drip updates knowing they'll get money at the end of the day no matter how much or how little work they do. It's like a handful of people funding a ice cream store, then them giving out free ice cream but it's just dog shit on a cone and you have the audacity to bitch at the people complaining just cause the dog shit was free, sit down, shut the fuck up and eat your dog shit if that makes you happy.

 

[Kimath]

But you are here, throwing a tantrum though admittedly for a different reason, but you cared enough and got mad enough to post a response.

Maybe there is or maybe there's not hope that you can fire enough synapses to understand this, but the difference is that I'm complaining about you, to you, and you're complaining about Snats, to people who have nothing to do with Snats.

And you're doing all this because you're dissatisfied with a porn game.

Just... move the fuck on, man. Go live your life.

 

[themastertasker]

I legit can't tell if you are purposely ignorant or, and I don't mean this as an insult, very autistic cause you seem to have so much trouble grasping the concept of time and relating it to how Snatz used to update and how he's updating now. Like the 12 months he worked on the remake always seems to escape you and you can only hyper focus on his old 6 month updates like he's only been working on the game for that time or less. I already told you, if he was sticking to his schedule then he would of already been on 0.3 not 0.1.1 since it's been around 18 months working on the game and only half of the first update out as a result. You also contradict yourself in the first paragraph, Snatz hasn't been updating and the people paying him money and testing the game/providing feedback in his discord and DMs are getting nothing so far. So by your own words, milking. Also the original game is 2 years of good stuff, and so far 1 1/2 years of mediocrity for the rest.

Ty for replying to him also only 2 of the 6 updates from the original version took 6 months. The rest was 4 months or shorter. Im confused where the whole snat take 6 months to update narrative came from.

 

[Zaychikz]

hmmm isnt it 6? idk. someone says 6, it was a long time ago. if there's no progress in 6 months it'll be tag as abandoned.

Game still updating in 6 months or so. I'd say 1 year and a half would be justifiable or maybe 1 year and just tagged it abandoned.

 

[Gojii]

Uhh buddy you’re still talking in this thread also so its kinda ironic saying touch grass when you’re doing the same shit

I log onto here like once every week or two. You're the one reply guying to anyone critical of the game.

Notifications are a thing in case you weren't aware, but since you reply to everyone that has a criticism of the game and the dev, you should know better.

Were you one of the people who got scammed for the $125 copy/paste "custom" characters or something? You seem far more invested in arguing with people than anyone else in this thread is.

It looks like they have, and most of the complaints and arguments against them have just been repeated by the same people for months.

They looking for info on what has been put out not why it's taking so long to get more!

That's because people like you or others keep coming into the thread telling people the criticisms aren't valid and they have thread notifications on.
It's almost like people feel a desire to make sure people aren't shilling for a dev that is fleecing donors unanswered like they were...
You DO realize that this game did get a lot of its early backing from f95 users because Snats ACTIVELY promoted and engaged with users on the site and a not insignificant number of them bought into the game's premise and trusted him, right?

 

[heavygaming312]

this thread might need to be locked until the game releases (or just be relocated). i want the update too but this is getting a little ridiculous from both sides. it feels like i'm watching both sides dish out bait and while also getting baited

 

[Gojii]

this thread might need to be locked until the game releases (or just be relocated). i want the update too but this is getting a little ridiculous from both sides. it feels like i'm watching both sides dish out bait and while also getting baited

Please don't act like you're a neutral observer concerned about the tone in the thread. This really comes across as you having motive in asking the mods to intervene when people are openly critical of one of your two favorite games. I'm sorry if this comes across as unfair, but...

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Sincere criticism, even heated, and responding to people mocking those critical of what they feel is a developer ripping off supporters is entirely valid conversation. There are some people who actually do use f95 as a website to find h-games and some, like myself then do support the games they liked.

Especially on a piracy site where the developer initially pushed and promoted the game and several users on the site who backed him feel they were lied to by, and there is no other place for people to voice their criticism of a very well funded h game project as active as this thread.

There is no other site on the net that is a hub like f95 for discussing porn games, and considering how Snats (or any developer for that matter) has his discord run, this is the only viable place to criticize and inform potential supporters of our issues.

 

[bidner233]

I log onto here like once every week or two. You're the one reply guying to anyone critical of the game.

Notifications are a thing in case you weren't aware, but since you reply to everyone that has a criticism of the game and the dev, you should know better.

Were you one of the people who got scammed for the $125 copy/paste "custom" characters or something? You seem far more invested in arguing with people than anyone else in this thread is.



That's because people like you or others keep coming into the thread telling people the criticisms aren't valid and they have thread notifications on.
It's almost like people feel a desire to make sure people aren't shilling for a dev that is fleecing donors unanswered like they were...
You DO realize that this game did get a lot of its early backing from f95 users because Snats ACTIVELY promoted and engaged with users on the site and a not insignificant number of them bought into the game's premise and trusted him, right?

Buddy you are coping severely I haven’t even given this guy a dollar and you are saying I bought the custom character? Also bro what there is literally multiple posts i made shitting on snats this is just retarded lol were you that offended that much by my reply?

 

[Gojii]

Buddy you are coping severely I haven’t even given this guy a dollar and you are saying I bought the custom character? Also bro what there is literally multiple posts i made shitting on snats this is just retarded lol were you that offended that much by my reply?

Friendly fire? Idk man you're replyguying in here constantly? I'm replying to those quoting me. The bulk of your post history is in this thread arguing with and trying to bait people so what am I to conclude for that? Usually the actions of someone who has a vested interest in the topic.

 

[Wygner]

Just replayed the prologue and i gotta say the redesigns do be looking good. Especially those fat juicy nipples.

 

[bidner233]

Friendly fire? Idk man you're replyguying in here constantly? I'm replying to those quoting me. The bulk of your post history is in this thread arguing with and trying to bait people so what am I to conclude for that? Usually the actions of someone who has a vested interest in the topic.

you just said a nothing burger statement also what does "replyguying" mean?

 

[heavygaming312]

Please don't act like you're a neutral observer concerned about the tone in the thread. This really comes across as you having motive in asking the mods to intervene when people are openly critical of one of your two favorite games. I'm sorry if this comes across as unfair, but...

understand that i wasn't insisting the mods get involved, and i apologize for implying so. i would be very shocked if this thread got locked at my say so.
but i really don't understand what the "receipts" have to do with motive. what motive, if any, would me being critical of the game in my history imply when i suddenly come in and say there's too much conversation going on here? have you read some of my posts for this game? i both criticize this game and relay information of what little i know about it. people want to know whats going to be in the hospital update, i reference a previous post. people are talking about what the protagonist is going to look like, i reference the patreon posts through kemono party.

for the record, i said that this thread should move or be "locked" because this "conversation" going on in this thread has been looping constantly for a couple of months, if not more.

 

[Reiyayru]

Maybe there is or maybe there's not hope that you can fire enough synapses to understand this, but the difference is that I'm complaining about you, to you, and you're complaining about Snats, to people who have nothing to do with Snats.

And you're doing all this because you're dissatisfied with a porn game.

Just... move the fuck on, man. Go live your life.

So your poorly written argument (Seriously don't try and use big words to pretend to be smart when you can't form a coherent response, took me three times reading what you wrote to understand what you were trying to say) is that I am complaining about Snatz and his game Twisted World, on the forum for Snatz and his game Twisted World while you are complaining and focusing on me who is neither Snatz or his game Twisted world on the forum for him and his game and somehow I'm an issue. You are not very smart, like even if you dropped out of collage you shouldn't be this slow.

No, if you bothered to read (though it looks like you somehow failed high school so it seems like you wouldn't even bother) I am dissatisfied with Snatz lying, dodging and lackluster work ethics on a game I really, really enjoy and want to see more of, like every one mad here loved the original game and have been disappointed with the "remake" and the lack of progress the dev said he would get done quicker, I'm not sure why that is so hard for some people to understand.

Also I am living my life, if it takes you hours to think up and write a response on this site and can't seem to find time to do anything else then that's more a you problem cause doing this doesn't take up maybe more then 15-20 minutes of my time.

 

[Reiyayru]

understand that i wasn't insisting the mods get involved, and i apologize for implying so. i would be very shocked if this thread got locked at my say so.
but i really don't understand what the "receipts" have to do with motive. what motive, if any, would me being critical of the game in my history imply when i suddenly come in and say there's too much conversation going on here? have you read some of my posts for this game? i both criticize this game and relay information of what little i know about it. people want to know whats going to be in the hospital update, i reference a previous post. people are talking about what the protagonist is going to look like, i reference the patreon posts through kemono party.

for the record, i said that this thread should move or be "locked" because this "conversation" going on in this thread has been looping constantly for a couple of months, if not more.

Bad move simply cause despite all the arguing and conversation going on this is the only place you can see Snatz occational dev logs to see what he's done (If anything) since he puts that behind a paywall (Unlike loads of other devs who let anyone and everyone see it) This thread gets locked then the only way to see if he's done anything is to pay him for the privilege, and you wonder why people are annoyed and upset.

 

[The Grad]

That's because people like you or others keep coming into the thread telling people the criticisms aren't valid and they have thread notifications on.
It's almost like people feel a desire to make sure people aren't shilling for a dev that is fleecing donors unanswered like they were...
You DO realize that this game did get a lot of its early backing from f95 users because Snats ACTIVELY promoted and engaged with users on the site and a not insignificant number of them bought into the game's premise and trusted him, right?

I think you got the wrong guy buddy, I've never said either side of this was or wasn't valid only it was a matter of personal perspective on when an individual would consider SNATS Milking or not. And yes I do remember when they were more active in the threads and fostered a good deal of trust. but that had nothing to do with the guy saying he wanted to find info on the content that has been put out while the arguing over the game's current "development hell" is making it hard for him to do so. And most if not all notifications have been of the arguing.

 

[Gojii]

I think you got the wrong guy buddy, I've never said either side of this was or wasn't valid only it was a matter of personal perspective on when an individual would consider SNATS Milking or not. And yes I do remember when they were more active in the threads and fostered a good deal of trust. but that had nothing to do with the guy saying he wanted to find info on the content that has been put out while the arguing over the game's current "development hell" is making it hard for him to do so. And most if not all notifications have been of the arguing.

I can respect that, that's on me bro. At this point I think a few of us, (myself in particular) have fallen into misunderstanding where others are coming from. I think then thats two or three people on my end? Sorry about that.

As to the arguing drowning out dev posts being leaked out. That's a compeltely valid point. The downside is its usually screencaps that there's been a post. I'll dialback any commenting in the back and forths. I think that's a solid reason for a few of us to lurk moar.

Although I think its usually the halfassed dev posts Snats gives which means further delays when they're made that stirs this thread up for weeks each time we see one.

 

[corellius]

do i think a remake nobody asked for, only to slowly re-release content we already had is scam milker behavior, absolutely. that being said however... this is still moving faster than dark cookie... and the thread for summertime saga is not remotely as ... "heated" as this one is. snats 1 and 1/2 year remake to release an alpha with a tiny amount of content only to start re-releasing old content has gone way faster, and at the very least actually seems to look better than the old stuff, so i can see why he thought it was a good idea to re-do stuff. meanwhile dark cookie spent almost 5 years on his remake to release an alpha with tiny content and slowly re-release old content... and that "re-make" content looks exactly the fuckin same. that is magnitudes worse than snats here. and yet...over there only maybe 1 in 10 comments at most is about dark cookie being a scammer (which is frankly beyond question at this point) while this one is like 9 out of 10 comments on the low end....

all im saying is some are more guilty than others and if we are going to start burning them at the stake maybe we should start with the worst offenders, like icstor and dark cookie, before we get to here.

 

[Gojii]

do i think a remake nobody asked for, only to slowly re-release content we already had is scam milker behavior, absolutely. that being said however... this is still moving faster than dark cookie... and the thread for summertime saga is not remotely as ... "heated" as this one is. snats 1 and 1/2 year remake to release an alpha with a tiny amount of content only to start re-releasing old content has gone way faster, and at the very least actually seems to look better than the old stuff, so i can see why he thought it was a good idea to re-do stuff. meanwhile dark cookie spent almost 5 years on his remake to release an alpha with tiny content and slowly re-release old content... and that "re-make" content looks exactly the fuckin same. that is magnitudes worse than snats here. and yet...over there only maybe 1 in 10 comments at most is about dark cookie being a scammer (which is frankly beyond question at this point) while this one is like 9 out of 10 comments on the low end....

all im saying is some are more guilty than others and if we are going to start burning them at the stake maybe we should start with the worst offenders, like icstor and dark cookie, before we get to here.

Its largely because with those projects everyone understands they are what they are, whereas with Snats there are people still in the denial phase because there is a drip drip drip of rendered images (that take a few minutes max to whip up if he's bought a halfway decent PC with his donations) leading them on, in addition to a few in a sunken cost mentality (who try justifying it to themselves more than trying to convince those critical of the game it feels like ).

At least most other devs who do remakes either did it with previously dropped projects or discussed it with their supporters. Neither of those is true here. Also: "whataboutism."

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Along with promising the hospital as part of the update, and then telling his donors it was delayed to Jan/Feb.... its August now. and I jokingly said Q2 this year back then... its going to be Q4 at this rate.

There's a valid reason that people feel inclined to criticize it given these things, and that's just the most glaring ones imo.

 

[OneWayMissile]

Bad move simply cause despite all the arguing and conversation going on this is the only place you can see Snatz occational dev logs to see what he's done (If anything) since he puts that behind a paywall (Unlike loads of other devs who let anyone and everyone see it) This thread gets locked then the only way to see if he's done anything is to pay him for the privilege, and you wonder why people are annoyed and upset.

I agree that this thread is useful but putting dev logs behind paywalls is very common with porn games, I can bet you can find more on this website that do this then dont. That said what was the latest update from Snats?

 

[heskflesk]

Along with promising the hospital as part of the update, and then telling his donors it was delayed to Jan/Feb.... its August now. and I jokingly said Q2 this year back then... its going to be Q4 at this rate.

Speaking of the hospital, willing to bet my left nut the hospital part is 90% of the next update