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Vualen

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Don't put words in my mouth. Here's my post again below. Maybe I'm blind, but can you please point out in which part of my reply did I say or even vaguely imply "it's not possible to create animated scenes with proper sounds"?
Ok, my bad, sorry, it was not you who initially said that. And then I don't see any reason explaining you anything anymore :)
 

talion777

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this game is way more interesting then leap of faith. LOF was so boring to me, i could never play it. And the girls weren't sexy either...
Everybody's entitled to their opinion, and LOF truly may not be for everyone based on the content, but it's also apples and oranges to compare a completed game to a game that has just released it's first chapter. One would hope that a dev's games would just increasingly get better over time as they hone their skills and accumulate experience, but it may be a bit premature to make definitive statements at this point. All I can say is that I hope by the time that this game is finished that you're right, and that it's far superior to Leap of Faith, because hey, wouldn't that be something? Here's hoping.
 

funkymonkeyjedi

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LOF is a slow burn starter. It will generally attract a more mature crowd looking for actual story substance over the glimmer of instant shinny tities that a more immature crowd can find on pornhub. But hey, to each his own I suppose.

*shrugs*
 

Son of Durin

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You can always turn sounds off and leave just music. So, everybody takes, what he needs. But best games have sex sounds and developers don't complain about it being pain in the arse ;)
It would depend on how it's done. For instance, don't give me that crap they do on Asian porn where the girl starts doing this high-pitched fake "oh God I'm about to orgasm" squealing, screaming and moaning as soon as the guy starts pulling off her panties, and keeps doing that for the next 10, 20, 30 minutes. That shit is awful.
 

funkymonkeyjedi

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It would depend on how it's done. For instance, don't give me that crap they do on Asian porn where the girl starts doing this high-pitched fake "oh God I'm about to orgasm" squealing, screaming and moaning as soon as the guy starts pulling off her panties, and keeps doing that for the next 10, 20, 30 minutes. That shit is awful.
Now you know why I straight up asked for 1 example of what he considers as a good game with sounds.
'cause I suspect that's what we're going to get as a reply. IF we get a reply.
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Son of Durin

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Now you know why I straight up asked for 1 example of what he considers as a good game with sounds.
'cause I suspect that's what we're going to get as a reply. IF we get a reply.
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I have run across a few decent ones. For instance, I just played Episode 10 of Halfway House yesterday and it did a decent job during scenes - some heavy breathing and light moans, breathing that picked up pace, moans and squeals that got better and more frequent, until a nice finish. And it wasn't constant: some breathing, quiet, a little more breathing, a moan, a sharp gasp as a full thrust was made, quiet, more breathing, heavier, quicker, quiet, etc. until the final sequence where the breathing and some moaning became constant for a few seconds and built until the end. My only criticism is that the breathing had more of a male tone rather than female, and the females were the ones that were doing the heavy breathing. I think a couple of different voice actor clip sets were used for the moans, gasps, squeals - that or the Dev was able to modulate them a little so it sounded like at least two different female vocalization sets were used for the five different LIs that had scenes (never more than two per scene).

Can't remember which one it was, but another I did not too long ago had a similar pattern, but included some pelvis to ass slapping noises and the like, which were done pretty well.

It can be done well, it just so often isn't.

What I don't want are people actually speaking the script - the variety of voices usually isn't broad enough and they never match the voice I gave them. This happened in The Awakening, I think, where voice actresses were introduced in the newer updates and they generally didn't match my imagination, and the "younger" sounding voices used for the 40-ish character, as opposed to "older" sounding voice used for the 20-something just didn't sound right regardless of what I had imagined before. It may have been another AVN, but it was one with the older/younger dynamic and a mismatch between who read which character.
 

funkymonkeyjedi

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I have run across a few decent ones. For instance, I just played Episode 10 of Halfway House yesterday and it did a decent job during scenes - some heavy breathing and light moans, breathing that picked up pace, moans and squeals that got better and more frequent, until a nice finish. And it wasn't constant: some breathing, quiet, a little more breathing, a moan, a sharp gasp as a full thrust was made, quiet, more breathing, heavier, quicker, quiet, etc. until the final sequence where the breathing and some moaning became constant for a few seconds and built until the end. My only criticism is that the breathing had more of a male tone rather than female, and the females were the ones that were doing the heavy breathing. I think a couple of different voice actor clip sets were used for the moans, gasps, squeals - that or the Dev was able to modulate them a little so it sounded like at least two different female vocalization sets were used for the five different LIs that had scenes (never more than two per scene).

Can't remember which one it was, but another I did not too long ago had a similar pattern, but included some pelvis to ass slapping noises and the like, which were done pretty well.

It can be done well, it just so often isn't.

What I don't want are people actually speaking the script - the variety of voices usually isn't broad enough and they never match the voice I gave them. This happened in The Awakening, I think, where voice actresses were introduced in the newer updates and they generally didn't match my imagination, and the "younger" sounding voices used for the 40-ish character, as opposed to "older" sounding voice used for the 20-something just didn't sound right regardless of what I had imagined before. It may have been another AVN, but it was one with the older/younger dynamic and a mismatch between who read which character.
*shrugs*
Not for me. I rarely even enjoy the music soundtracks of most VNs. Only a select few I won't mute sounds entirely and just play my own music instead. More often than not, they're just coma inducing. I don't think moans and groans will make anything better for me.
 

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Suuuure budy.
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Wow, you been on here for 5 months and you're making judgement calls about a guy who literally has over 113 times as many posts as you do? cxx is very well known on here and those of us who know him value his posts and input. His point was both accurate and valid. You said that LOF was a slow burn starter and would appeal to a more mature audience and not to the younger crowd. cxx was countering that claim by pointing out that the mc has oppertunity, very early on to get with Robin/Kira. It was a valid counter to your comment about the game. Instead of recognizing his critique of your comment, you attacked him on a personal level. to everyone who knows cxx and everyone who sees your post and has half a brain, it is glaringly obvious that you are the immature one in this discussion.

As for the Original comment by morbidviews21 about u4ia being more interesting than LOF. I can see where he's comming from with the more interesting part...

Right off the bat, in u4ia, we are presented with a fair amount of information that is only partially explained and leaves more questions than answers. Why is he running? What's with the dream? Did he really die? Is this a clone? Was it a dream, or a memory from the person he was cloned from? Why can't he take the yacht to shore? What the hell is going on here? Lots of mystery and intrigue. Plus, Even if it is a dream, this game starts with a sex scene. As we progress, it feels like every time we get one answer, 2 more questions arrise... It is interesting. LOF doesn't have this level of intrigue at the beginning.

As for the girls of LOF not being pretty. Maybe MorbidViews21 should see a doctor about that.

Lexi for best girl ever!!
 
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funkymonkeyjedi

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You said that LOF was a slow burn starter and would appeal to a more mature audience and not to the younger crowd. @cxx was countering that claim by pointing out that the mc has oppertunity, very early on to get with Robin/Kira.
I was making a reference to the story plot, not how fast you can get your dick wet. Thank you for making my point for me. ;)

As for the rest of your post on U4ia, I agree.
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Hildegardt

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I was making a reference to the story plot, not how fast you can get your dick wet.
You mean how the very first time the PC goes out again, after a long bout of depression, he immediately picks up every single woman he talks to, one of them being a famous musician, who invites him to her mansion after talking to him for only like ten minutes?
You mean how the PC being depressed, because Steph left him, makes no sense, if you're not on the Steph path, because his depression is easily cured by talking to random women, who immediately fall for him?
 

funkymonkeyjedi

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You mean how the very first time the PC goes out again, after a long bout of depression, he immediately picks up every single woman he talks to, one of them being a famous musician, who invites him to her mansion after talking to him for only like ten minutes?
You mean how the PC being depressed, because Steph left him, makes no sense, if you're not on the Steph path, because his depression is easily cured by talking to random women, who immediately fall for him?
You do realize the main story plot is about the MC finding himself and his place in life, which happens to revolve around Cece and not Lexi? Because it doesn't matter which girl you pick, you end up revolving around Cece's story.

That's not to say Lexi's story isn't important, she's just a 'important' secondary story. So, arguably, the main plot is always about how 1 catalyst can bring everyone together, learning what drives Cece to do the things she does, and how to help her out of it.

So if you plan to continue to argue out of "hurt feelings" because I don't have the same point of view as you, don't expect many more replies. But I don't pick VN's just to see how quickly I can get to see T&A, I'm actually interested in the stories they have to tell.

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You do realize the main story plot is about the MC finding himself and his place in life, which happens to revolve around Cece and not Lexi? Because it doesn't matter which girl you pick, you end up revolving around Cece's story.

That's not to say Lexi's story isn't important, she's just a 'important' secondary story. So, arguably, the main plot is always about how 1 catalyst can bring everyone together, learning what drives Cece to do the things she does, and how to help her out of it.

So if you plan to continue to argue out of "hurt feelings" because I don't have the same point of view as you, don't expect many more replies. But I don't pick VN's just to see how quickly I can get to see T&A, I'm actually interested in the stories they have to tell.

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You realize the arguement was about whether or not the story is slow burn and not about what you think the main plot is about?
Anyway, you have to choose your main LI pretty early in the game and whoever you choose ends up determining the PC's place in life at the end of the game. This choice is made before Cece executes her grand plan of bringing everyone together and even before reconciling with Steph (or not).
Every LI besides Kira is met by chance and if you happen to choose Kira and/or Robyn, then the PC actually finishes his quest for his place in life before meeting any of the other women. The point being that the plot moves pretty fast, if you cut out all the fluff.
 

funkymonkeyjedi

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You realize the arguement was about whether or not the story is slow burn and not about what you think the main plot is about?
Then on what do you base a 'slow burn' start, if not on the main plot development itself?

*shrugs*
Now you're just trolling.
 
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