Collection Unreal Engine Under the Witch [v2024-11-26] [NumericGazer]

NeroZee · Sep 3, 2023

acarobasito said:
This is basically a handcrafted game, and you can see it in every animation/camera shoot/dialogue.

Very high quality and an almost maniacal attention to details that is possible only for somebody that is enjoing his work.
Probably numericgaze really want to have control on his creation and that's why he has just started to seek for an animator only when he swittched from a little project with 2-3 girls to the new one.

Sure i get that and you can definitely see it in the locations, each room is filled to the brim with stuff, every last detail matters.

Not sure how good this is ultimately, the development process is certainly gonna take a few years to complete, I dont think people realize the scope of it. IIRC he started looking for animators last year, so to have no found one yet is really, really not a good sing. It either means no one is interested in the project or more likely he is a perfectionist and cant seem to find anyone that's good enough.

Yea i am pretty confident this game is either never coming out or it will take AT LEAST another 3-4 years for it.

stickypicky · Sep 3, 2023

Subnero said:
Sure i get that and you can definitely see it in the locations, each room is filled to the brim with stuff, every last detail matters.

Not sure how good this is ultimately, the development process is certainly gonna take a few years to complete, I dont think people realize the scope of it. IIRC he started looking for animators last year, so to have no found one yet is really, really not a good sing. It either means no one is interested in the project or more likely he is a perfectionist and cant seem to find anyone that's good enough.

Yea i am pretty confident this game is either never coming out or it will take AT LEAST another 3-4 years for it.

If he was releasing all the girls at once i definitely think it would be 3-4 years but I think he's gonna go the same route as Chapter 1 and try to work on all the girls(Kuro being his main focus), i think once kuro is released the next girl won't be far behind. I wish there was someone in the discord with information that they could share here and tell us some of numeric's intentions, it would be really nice to know with 100% confirmation how numeric is planning on releasing the girls.

It's pretty crazy though that kuro was first introduced back in October 2021, it really shows how much plans numeric has for his game. Whenever the release drops it's gonna be amazing i bet just the clothing changes will blow us away.

NeroZee · Sep 3, 2023

stickypicky said:
If he was releasing all the girls at once i definitely think it would be 3-4 years but I think he's gonna go the same route as Chapter 1 and try to work on all the girls(Kuro being his main focus), i think once kuro is released the next girl won't be far behind. I wish there was someone in the discord with information that they could share here and tell us some of numeric's intentions, it would be really nice to know with 100% confirmation how numeric is planning on releasing the girls.

It's pretty crazy though that kuro was first introduced back in October 2021, it really shows how much plans numeric has for his game. Whenever the release drops it's gonna be amazing i bet just the clothing changes will blow us away.

I could be wrong since i am trying to remember his original goals he set long ago but isn't this exactly what he wanted to do with this game? As in complete all the girls and then release it? That also seems to be the development process as well since he is making every other room and girl as well, otherwise he wouldn't be doing that just yet and would focus more on going girl by girl.

I dunno, the more i look at it the more i think he is either gonna run out of money or will be stuck making this indefinitely. I dunno how he expects to finish this and also hire more people he needs to pay on a fraction of what he used to make, which is only going to get worse as time goes on.

The feature creep is such a death sentence for many developers no matter what type of game you make. I was perfectly fine with his original game, he should have kept it simple, just introduce new girl with every chapter no need for all the background noise and large maps. Then he decided to do just that with his second game made a completely pointless map on a lake with a house and a cave, then that wasnt enough either and now we have a castle in a shape of a spider.... Whats next? Gonna go full GTA and make a whole city? lol

Gonna end up bleeding hismelf dry with financing and just abandoning the whole thing.

gigalitor · Sep 3, 2023

Developers active on Patreon tend to become arrogant, attempting to develop 3A level games and forgetting that they only have one or a few people, rather than a large company. Then there was an excuse to explain the snail like slow progress. Many of the games I focus on are like this, and I believe this is a common phenomenon rather than a coincidence.
I would never pay money on Patreon.

acarobasito · Sep 3, 2023

Subnero said:
I could be wrong since i am trying to remember his original goals he set long ago but isn't this exactly what he wanted to do with this game? As in complete all the girls and then release it? That also seems to be the development process as well since he is making every other room and girl as well, otherwise he wouldn't be doing that just yet and would focus more on going girl by girl.

I dunno, the more i look at it the more i think he is either gonna run out of money or will be stuck making this indefinitely. I dunno how he expects to finish this and also hire more people he needs to pay on a fraction of what he used to make, which is only going to get worse as time goes on.

The feature creep is such a death sentence for many developers no matter what type of game you make. I was perfectly fine with his original game, he should have kept it simple, just introduce new girl with every chapter no need for all the background noise and large maps. Then he decided to do just that with his second game made a completely pointless map on a lake with a house and a cave, then that wasnt enough either and now we have a castle in a shape of a spider.... Whats next? Gonna go full GTA and make a whole city? lol

Gonna end up bleeding hismelf dry with financing and just abandoning the whole thing.

If I remember correctly he want to introduce more girls, but with less animations/scene each.

He will relase alpha-build on patreon as for episode 0 and once he will complete all the girls (it will take a long) the game will be relase on steam an others platforms.

btw, he's got a LOT of money and even now there's a lot of people supporting him. In my opinion it's a good plan.

NeroZee · Sep 3, 2023

acarobasito said:
If I remember correctly he want to introduce more girls, but with less animations/scene each.

He will relase alpha-build on patreon as for episode 0 and once he will complete all the girls (it will take a long) the game will be relase on steam an others platforms.

btw, he's got a LOT of money and even now there's a lot of people supporting him. In my opinion it's a good plan.

I just dont think we will see anything in another 3-4 years, the man hasn't even found his animators.

He certainly HAD a lot of money at some point. He used to have 3 times the supporters than he does now, maybe even now is enough money for him, not sure if its enough for multiple people. Either way it's only gonna keep dropping with time. So whether or not this is ultimately the right choice by him we have yet to see.

acarobasito · Sep 3, 2023

Subnero said:
I just dont think we will see anything in another 3-4 years, the man hasn't even found his animators.

He certainly HAD a lot of money at some point. He used to have 3 times the supporters than he does now, maybe even now is enough money for him, not sure if its enough for multiple people. Either way it's only gonna keep dropping with time. So whether or not this is ultimately the right choice by him we have yet to see.

If you compare the timeline of episode one with episode zero you can see that you can expect some sort of playable build for early 2024, even with no animatore hired.

NeroZee · Sep 3, 2023

acarobasito said:
If you compare the timeline of episode one with episode zero you can see that you can expect some sort of playable build for early 2024, even with no animatore hired.

I very much doubt that, but we will see, early 2024 is not far away.

woaguitar · Sep 3, 2023

At this point I'd be happy if the existing animations are reused for the different character models. Surely that should be doable without a specialized animator.

acarobasito · Sep 3, 2023

Subnero said:
I very much doubt that, but we will see, early 2024 is not far away.

just as reminder...

July 2019 : Episode 1 (Alice) announced - After the bonus scene is over I will work on the production of ver 0.2.0. Ver 0.2.0 will be a further evolution of the gameplay established in ver 0.1.0. I would like to reflect the feedback obtained in ver 0.1.0 on new character models etc. and create a high-end game experience with a higher degree of perfection. Of course, new characters also appear.

Settember 2019 : Episode 1 (Alice) development start - Development of ver0.2.0 For a while, I will do modeling and design for the development of ver0.2.0. I will report on the progress again at the end of this month.

October 2019 : Alice resign revealed

December 2019 : Alice model first 3D showcase