VN Ren'Py Unexpected Opportunity [Ch. 6] [Sweetychily]

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Larry2000

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I love this game. I'm over 60 and sex is no longer a priority for me but I remain a great lover and this game is very similar to what I experienced in my youth. Thanks to Larry2000 for his creation. English is not my first language and sorry if my speech is not very clear
Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying it. We hope to add a realistic situation of a guy that isn't just horny all the time, that wants meaningful relationships as well. The main theme is how anxiety and trauma define who you are at times. It's up to us to not let ourselves be bound by them. It's something that I've struggled through in my life and relationships, so it feels good to put them out there. Anxiety is used often as a throwaway concept as

Girl says, "Oh, I have anxiety." MC says "Don't worry about it!" Love Interest says "Oh, okay." And then it just happens. It's gone and it's fixed. Anxiety, Guilt and Depression are almost alive. They tear at your motivation, self esteem and creativity. I want it to be shown, even if subtly, that change both takes time, and also doesn't always truly go away, we just learn to handle it. If we're lucky, one day we'll wake up and realize there was nothing there to begin with :D

One BIG correction though, this game was actually started by my good friend Sweetychily, I didn't create this game. I did however help transform it into what it is now storywise. However, everything that goes on in this game is decided by both of us. We are a team after all :D
 

HoloSan

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I want to answer everyone's questions, but I'll start with Saint Blackmoor because of the importance of their comment.

I don't know exactly makes you think that it's either scenario. I thought we made it clear from the start that this was a slow burn game. To clarify, each update isn't an excuse to say "where's the sex?" it just means we are able to push the story forward slightly. We've been working hard to develop this story and all the pieces are finally in place to start making progress. SweetyChily and I didn't come into game creation for clout, so I don't know what credibility we'd lose. We just want to make a wholesome game :)

As far as saving this game from "collapse" I don't know what that means. I love that some people enjoy the game. And personally, that's okay with me. If people are unsatisfied by the early game so far, that's okay, we have plans and we hope to keep them going, so please don't speculate about our morals, we're both busy enough in our regular lives to have to worry about us being perceived as people trying to part with you money. Feel free to come and go as you wish, come join us in 10 updates if you wish, but don't spread that we might be milking this game.


Of course, we missed that this update, but we'll fix it :D
I think it's cause of the outline color is the same as the background. My guess anyway.



So, the reason behind that is because we didn't have any variables before. We just added them :) Now we are set to introduce different paths. Previously, it was strictly linear, no relationship points, so it was inevitable. Sorry for the inconvenience! We'll try to add an option to skip straight to the next chapter if it ever happens again. Thanks for playing!



I thought so too! She's a treat, and I'm loving where we'll go with her. We'll do our best to give her the best story we can.




Sorry for the dullness. We're trying to set up a romance. It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but we're trying our best. If you can recommend what is a decent plot to you, maybe we can course correct on the dull story/plot. Suggestions are appreciated, because maybe there is an aspect, I never considered. You can DM if you wish :D


It's a slow burn game. If you expect everything to happen fast, then maybe it's not the game for you. I will clarify though, Nicole will get content :D

If you don't come back, have a nice day and thanks for trying our game.

I answered it above, but it's a slow burn game. We can't get into these things so quickly. That said, we're gonna start spicing it up soon ;)

On the subject of laughs... you don't like laughs? :(

The MC's formality has a purpose. For clarity, every character carries with them their own traumas and anxieties. More than anything, there is an anxiety to act and engage. For MC he's had issues with his past about letting things go and engaging too much. That's how we get to Nicole. Whether or not we, as the audience, think it's traumatic, the MC holds that inside. Something stops him from engaging. However, as he gets to know the ladies, he's slowly losing that feeling. Every chapter up to Chapter 5 has been leading up to this point. MC is now comfortable with pretty much everyone. Now he'll start to engage.


To end on a final note. This game won't please everyone, at least not yet. BUT if you have an suggestions on what would improve the story that isn't just "add more sex now" then we're all ears. I'm so focused on what I want, it's hard to consider what others want. So throw some suggestions to me in a DM.

We're doing our best to make this game and these characters. If you like our characters, I hope you stay, if not, we don't blame you. Have a good one!
It's actually lovely and I... personally very much appreciate that you spent time to address the comments. Shows us that you are taking this extremely seriously along with proof of the team's hardwork!
 

Larry2000

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Hi, Could the options be fixed at some point, so that the skip unread ect work? These dont appear to function at all.
I just read your comment again, and I needed to say this.

Those options DO work from my understanding. I actually had this in my list of problems, but I don't think we ended up changing this one in time. You can skip unread text/after choices, it just isn't indicated. If it's fully broken as in, it doesn't work, that's news to me and regardless, we'll definitely get it fixed in the next update. Sorry again for the inconvenience.
 

IXL

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I just read your comment again, and I needed to say this.

Those options DO work from my understanding. I actually had this in my list of problems, but I don't think we ended up changing this one in time. You can skip unread text/after choices, it just isn't indicated. If it's fully broken as in, it doesn't work, that's news to me and regardless, we'll definitely get it fixed in the next update. Sorry again for the inconvenience.
Hi,

No worries.

They didnt work for me at the time. Someone is free to correct me, but I couldnt make them work at all. The other thing was they wouldnt highlight as set either, so to me something was not right at all.. For example, if I wanted to set UNSEEN TEXT as on, I can hover over it, it goes orange, I click to set it, but it doesnt appear to show as set when I focus off of the UNSEEN TEXT word in options.

I wondered if it was just not showing it set at the time, so I retried it but doesnt seem to work at all on all of them for me at all.

The in game "Skip" option at the bottom of the screen is unhighlighted as well, so couldnt force it to skip.

What I can do is SKIP already seen text, but this is not the same thing.

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If you hover over it, it goes orange, if you click it, you would think it would remain orange or ticked or something, but it goes back to white.

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J.R.

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Hi,

No worries.

They didnt work for me at the time. Someone is free to correct me, but I couldnt make them work at all. The other thing was they wouldnt highlight as set either, so to me something was not right at all.. For example, if I wanted to set UNSEEN TEXT as on, I can hover over it, it goes orange, I click to set it, but it doesnt appear to show as set when I focus off of the UNSEEN TEXT word in options.

I wondered if it was just not showing it set at the time, so I retried it but doesnt seem to work at all on all of them for me at all.

The in game "Skip" option at the bottom of the screen is unhighlighted as well, so couldnt force it to skip.

What I can do is SKIP already seen text, but this is not the same thing.

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If you hover over it, it goes orange, if you click it, you would think it would remain orange or ticked or something, but it goes back to white.

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For me it worked, I can select it and skip the unseen text in the game:
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But not sure, maybe it's Kogas mod I'm using fixing that.
 

IXL

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For me it worked, I can select it and skip the unseen text in the game:
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But not sure, maybe it's Kogas mod I'm using fixing that.
Hmm. Mines a fresh install, never played before, so its completely vanilla. Try without your mod?

No idea what Kogas does.. never seen it or used it.
 

J.R.

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Hmm. Mines a fresh install, never played before, so its completely vanilla. Try without your mod?

No idea what Kogas does.. never seen it or used it.
It's the multi mod from here
I checked it now and installed the game without it. And yes, now you can't see if an option like the "skip unseen text" is already picked in the preferences. When installing the mod it's there again. Seems the modder (Koga3) has fixed that himself.

But the skip unseen text function is working in the game also without the mod. Of course only if you activated it in the preferences (when moving the mouse over the button and it does not change you already selected it).
 

IXL

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It's the multi mod from here
I checked it now and installed the game without it. And yes, now you can't see if an option like the "skip unseen text" is already picked in the preferences. When installing the mod it's there again. Seems the modder (Koga3) has fixed that himself.

But the skip unseen text function is working in the game also without the mod. Of course only if you activated it in the preferences (when moving the mouse over the button and it does not change you already selected it).
Yeah, you dont know if you have activated it or not. Seems to work that way yeah. As I said, just needs fixing really so its visable I guess.
 

Rasturac

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I don´t like to be critical with games, but 5 chapters and not even a miserable handjob,
Hand-job?
Not even a hand-holding!


I also have no problem with slow burn
but it has to start somewhere a little flame that each time grows a bit
but here there are no flames only tiny patches of smoke now and there.
 
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LeoManu

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Bro, you could cut off all the combat and exploration of a Persona game and it'd still have more action than this. Like, just now we're starting to get into some of the issues these characters have, after what seems like a few in-game months. That's freaking hilarious. Doesn't even take me a week to get a female to talk about her daddy issues.
 

TigerWolfe

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Well I'm enjoying this one, even if others think it's to slow. I wouldn't be upset if things picked up with 1 character or another, but I'm not upset by the current pace.

Allison's character model is awesome and I dig all the "older" women, so hopefully they're actual LIs and not just mentor figures, I'm still curious to see how things work out with Frank and how he gets out of the way.
 
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fishbrain

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Just started this one.. I think after the pancake delivery I'd be pinning her up against the door and asking her why such a sexy woman doesn't wear a wedding ring, that might be dangerous!! :devilish:
 

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Can anyone or Dev know if there is or will be NTR content in this game? I'm posting because it's something I want to know because I don't want to start a game that will later have NTR or any kind of thing
 
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Larry2000

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Hand-job?
Not even a hand-holding!


I also have no problem with slow burn
but it has to start somewhere a little flame that each time grows a bit
but here there are no flames only tiny patches of smoke now and there.
Bro, you could cut off all the combat and exploration of a Persona game and it'd still have more action than this. Like, just now we're starting to get into some of the issues these characters have, after what seems like a few in-game months. That's freaking hilarious. Doesn't even take me a week to get a female to talk about her daddy issues.
nice game but a bit (too?) slow. But I'll keep following it in hopes it will speed up
Just started this one.. I think after the pancake delivery I'd be pinning her up against the door and asking her why such a sexy woman doesn't wear a wedding ring, that might be dangerous!! :devilish:
I've said this before, and I'll say it again, this is a slow burn story. It might not fit everyone's speed regardless, but we're trying our best to pace the story that feels natural.

Rasturac, this might not be the game for you. If you want to come back 5 or so updates for more, it's all good.

I'll explain why the pacing is this way, and I hope people can refer people to this post when someone else makes a similar comment.

First off, this game is a lot about anxiety and trauma. Not drama for the sake of drama like assault or novela stuff like that. These traumas are more internal dilemas like Imposter Syndrome, Body Dismorphia and Depression. It WON'T be too depressing, just that it highlights other problems people have. When I was making the story rewrite, I really wanted something that felt more slow paced. Something more akin to the courting process. Not casual dating, which is like 95% of games on this site. While there's NOTHING wrong with that, this game isn't that. All the love interests have their reasons for NOT being so forward as does the MC. MC has an anxiety of losing control because the last time he did, he embarrassed himself. And you might not think that it's that embarrassing, but to him, it's deep and for better or worse, it define him.

He shares different aspects of himself - his flaws - with some of the other love interests that compliment him. For example, MC feels he lucked out in getting his ex girlfriend Rachel because he tends to reject all things in front of him, but he thinks it's because he's not very special (some might argue this is true :p) but he'll learn through Taylor that he IS desirable. He'll learn about confidence through helping Emily with her own issues. He'll learn through his Ex girlfriend that sometimes you must confront the truth even if it's terrifying. Each character fills a place in his flaws.

Second, all the girls at this stage are his FRIENDS. They've all been introduced since last update and now we can move forward deeper into their stories. My favorite kind of romance is the "fall in love on the way" kind of interactions. It's not realistic with ALL girls in the world, but to some it works. It's like you wake up one day and they are all you can think about. This the type I typically want with at about 3 of them. The other 2 of them are/will be smitten (though one has a massive roadblock). And the other is hard work. and one might even surprise you :D

To the pacing, if you're not casually dating, then most of these relationships take months if not years to develop naturally, so as a developer Sweetychily and I have to balance out how we can incorporate them faster without breaking the cadence of the storytelling. So we've used the passage of times for MC to develop skills in his work. We've had Frank and Lisa start treating him like a close friend/neighbor. MC even gave them his key just in case, as was confirmed last chapter. We will also use time soon as well to skip forward in time to help bridge the Western Visual Novel trope where people fall in love with their family members or hated rivals in the span of 5 or 6 days...

Anyway, there are gains being made on all fronts, just not the way you expect a sex game to go. I will once again say, this is a slow paced game. It's NOT a sex game. Sex WILL happen, but it will as it fits. That said, we're getting closer than before.

Lastly, The next update is shorter, but has the party scene where MC lets lose a little. He's been too much of a stick in the mud. A real SQUARE. He needs to have more fun. So we'll let him! There will be some fun back and forth between MC and the girls. After that, the next full update will have him dipping his toes into some real stuff.

We won't satisfy everyone, but the people that are, will hopefully feel that connection we've been trying to make with the characters. :D
 

fishbrain

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I've said this before, and I'll say it again, this is a slow burn story. It might not fit everyone's speed regardless, but we're trying our best to pace the story that feels natural.

Rasturac, this might not be the game for you. If you want to come back 5 or so updates for more, it's all good.

I'll explain why the pacing is this way, and I hope people can refer people to this post when someone else makes a similar comment.

First off, this game is a lot about anxiety and trauma. Not drama for the sake of drama like assault or novela stuff like that. These traumas are more internal dilemas like Imposter Syndrome, Body Dismorphia and Depression. It WON'T be too depressing, just that it highlights other problems people have. When I was making the story rewrite, I really wanted something that felt more slow paced. Something more akin to the courting process. Not casual dating, which is like 95% of games on this site. While there's NOTHING wrong with that, this game isn't that. All the love interests have their reasons for NOT being so forward as does the MC. MC has an anxiety of losing control because the last time he did, he embarrassed himself. And you might not think that it's that embarrassing, but to him, it's deep and for better or worse, it define him.

He shares different aspects of himself - his flaws - with some of the other love interests that compliment him. For example, MC feels he lucked out in getting his ex girlfriend Rachel because he tends to reject all things in front of him, but he thinks it's because he's not very special (some might argue this is true :p) but he'll learn through Taylor that he IS desirable. He'll learn about confidence through helping Emily with her own issues. He'll learn through his Ex girlfriend that sometimes you must confront the truth even if it's terrifying. Each character fills a place in his flaws.

Second, all the girls at this stage are his FRIENDS. They've all been introduced since last update and now we can move forward deeper into their stories. My favorite kind of romance is the "fall in love on the way" kind of interactions. It's not realistic with ALL girls in the world, but to some it works. It's like you wake up one day and they are all you can think about. This the type I typically want with at about 3 of them. The other 2 of them are/will be smitten (though one has a massive roadblock). And the other is hard work. and one might even surprise you :D

To the pacing, if you're not casually dating, then most of these relationships take months if not years to develop naturally, so as a developer Sweetychily and I have to balance out how we can incorporate them faster without breaking the cadence of the storytelling. So we've used the passage of times for MC to develop skills in his work. We've had Frank and Lisa start treating him like a close friend/neighbor. MC even gave them his key just in case, as was confirmed last chapter. We will also use time soon as well to skip forward in time to help bridge the Western Visual Novel trope where people fall in love with their family members or hated rivals in the span of 5 or 6 days...

Anyway, there are gains being made on all fronts, just not the way you expect a sex game to go. I will once again say, this is a slow paced game. It's NOT a sex game. Sex WILL happen, but it will as it fits. That said, we're getting closer than before.

Lastly, The next update is shorter, but has the party scene where MC lets lose a little. He's been too much of a stick in the mud. A real SQUARE. He needs to have more fun. So we'll let him! There will be some fun back and forth between MC and the girls. After that, the next full update will have him dipping his toes into some real stuff.

We won't satisfy everyone, but the people that are, will hopefully feel that connection we've been trying to make with the characters. :D
I much prefer slow burn anyway, makes it actually mean something! I mostly lose interest when there's no buildup.
 
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Larry2000

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I much prefer slow burn anyway, makes it actually mean something! I mostly lose interest when there's no buildup.
That's kinda why I decided to write my own stories as well. Before I joined this game, I was periodically writing a story that scratched all of my creative visual novel itches. Unexpected Opportunity is not based on any of my previous writings though, I just saw the potential in the girls involved. Especially Lisa :love: , but I know people's favorite is Nicole. So I'll make sure they all get a good amount of love.
 
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