Unfuckable female character?

tanstaafl

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Schrödinger's Love Interest, is she just pixels or is she a real woman? I guess it depends on what's expedient for the given argument the NTR fan wants to make.
It doesn't really matter, if she exists in any form you feel you are entitled to fuck her. Right?


"Close but no cigar." My point was that designing an attractive female character, making her a banner girl and teasing your player base with her is a highly unpopular thing to do, especially if you're developing a vanilla HAREM game, much like adding NTR.
The only person to bring up either banners or NTR is you. Are you arguing with yourself right now?
 

tanstaafl

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I dunno, I think having fans have lengthy debates about one's original characters is a sign that the writing is good and strikes an emotional chord with the audience. Even if the debate is just long ramblings about being horny.
I would usually agree with you, but you seemed to ignore this sentence in that post about the reasoning for the debate: "All with the goal to explain just why every single female that exists in a game is required to be fuckable."

They aren't debating the merits of a game, they're whining that a thing with a vagina exists in some context that they can't apply their power fantasy to.
 
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♍VoidTraveler

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Possible, but at some point lots of coomers in that game's thread will start moaning about that character not being fuckable.
I can bet money on it. :whistle::coffee:
 
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Personal? No. But I find your entire way of thinking pathetic. It's hard to not think that way, the entitlement you must carry to believe that devs must bow to your way of thinking. The thought that they can't just do something in their own creation without your entitled ass thinking they owe you the pussy.
You're putting a lot of words into my mouth here. Entitlement? Not at all, I don't expect or demand that devs do anything they don't want to. I'm simply making suggestions based on the general adult games market. I've played games where the devs had certain characters I couldn't sex, but the rest of the game was good enough that I shrugged and moved on. But would the games have been more enjoyable to me if the girl was available? Definitely.

If the dev really feels the story needs an unsexable female character more power to them, but then I have to wonder why they're making an adult game in the first place if something like that takes priority over the nature of the game, or why they're not using a male character, or any number of other options that would make more sense in the context of adult material. It's like making a fighting game then having one character with an awesome design only available as a training character, or only shows up in cutscenes. Seems an awful waste.
 

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personally, I would not care too much about it unless the dev tease it and never follow through with it. but there are a lot on here that would complain about it, so if you are going to make a game with that, do keep that in mind.
 

Ass prefer

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Possible, but at some point lots of coomers in that game's thread will start moaning about that character not being fuckable.
I can bet money on it. :whistle::coffee:
And they will be RIGHT. Because if there is a woman in a porn game, she must DEFINITELY be FUCKED by a man's dick.
 

Ass prefer

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Personal? No. But I find your entire way of thinking pathetic. It's hard to not think that way, the entitlement you must carry to believe that devs must bow to your way of thinking. The thought that they can't just do something in their own creation without your entitled ass thinking they owe you the pussy.
You're wrong. Your words are bullshit.
 

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It's definitely been done, Being A Rock Star had an attractive character as an unfuckable sister. Elite Garden is currently in development with an attractive character as the sister with the devs currently stating there will be no incest in the game.
 

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It's definitely been done, Being A Rock Star had an attractive character as an unfuckable sister. Elite Garden is currently in development with an attractive character as the sister with the devs currently stating there will be no incest in the game.
See fan of badik
Day ruined...
 

Jaike

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Many people here think every adult game's a porn game and should follow porn logic. Most games on this site probably are, but there are a few ones that are styled adult games but not porn games. These are often targeted with whining by the forever horny crowd, who often find the idea there could be something like a non-porn adult game pretentious. Yeah those guys aren't high in empathy.

It's probably true that it doesn't make the most commercial sense to reject porn logic, but most devs don't bring in loads of money anyway. Not everything has to be a money making effort, and it's sad if you think it has to be.

Sure, it sounds 'pathetic' in a void, but you're ignoring context. In a porn game that is ultimately intended for jacking off to, any attractive/appealing female character is there for sexual gratification. I don't know why you're so indignant about that concept for a **porn game.** And as Ying Ko mentioned, those games are popular in spite of the unsexable characters, not because of them. You can't honestly think that anybody is looking at the attractive, appealing characters that they can't get with and think "I'm really happy that I can't do anything with this woman in this porn game, I'm glad the developer made such a bold move!' Anybody who unironically thinks that (if they even exist) is in a very, VERY tiny minority. I don't think I've ever seen that sentiment expressed in the comments section of any of those games (not to say they haven't, but they're rare enough that I haven't seen them). It's a very bizarre decision on the game developers part and it has a virtually zero percent chance of making anybody like the game more, and a very solid chance of making people like the game less. It's not a risk vs reward scenario, it's all risk no reward.

Does an attractive woman existing in reality automatically make her a 'cocktease' if she's not available/into you? Of course not, that's a twisted mindset to have. But porn games aren't reality, they're meant to be fantasies. Even the more 'realistic' ones are still sexual fantasies and wish-fulfillment scenarios. And the only people who include women they can't have in their sexual fantasies are cuckolds, and unless the NTR crowd is your target audience there's zero point in having a female character who isn't available to the player.
I just realized you've yet to provide any reason that having an 'unsexable' female character in a porn game would be a good idea. Or if you have it was lost in the sea of your aggressive diatribe. My point isn't whether the mindset is 'pathetic' (I don't think it is, but that's not what I'm debating here), my point is that there's no discernible benefit to including attractive female characters in a porn game that aren't available to the player. I've laid out the reasons why I think that's the case, I'd be curious to know your reasoning why you disagree beyond thinking the (large amount of) people who think so are 'pathetic'.

The nature of your responses make me wonder if it's personal for you, but I've no clue if that's the case (or what circumstances would make this particular issue personal in the first place). At any rate I think you'll find your opinion is not the majority, and you can rail against the adult games crowd and call people 'pathetic' all you please but it's not going to change the reality that if there is any benefit to making an 'unsexable' female character in a porn game (which I doubt), it will be vastly outweighed by the negatives.
You're putting a lot of words into my mouth here. Entitlement? Not at all, I don't expect or demand that devs do anything they don't want to. I'm simply making suggestions based on the general adult games market. I've played games where the devs had certain characters I couldn't sex, but the rest of the game was good enough that I shrugged and moved on. But would the games have been more enjoyable to me if the girl was available? Definitely.

If the dev really feels the story needs an unsexable female character more power to them, but then I have to wonder why they're making an adult game in the first place if something like that takes priority over the nature of the game, or why they're not using a male character, or any number of other options that would make more sense in the context of adult material. It's like making a fighting game then having one character with an awesome design only available as a training character, or only shows up in cutscenes. Seems an awful waste.
Most of what you write assumes that you are talking about a porn game, so a game where porn's the core purpose. Later you mention adult games, but I don't know if you assume all adult games are porn games. But you sure don't eliminate that impression.

There's any number of reasons it'd be a good idea, those reasons usually involve plot and narrative. You know, like, the stuff porn games absolutely suck at and most other adult games aren't doing too great either. Maybe she's an antagonist and a normal relation wouldn't make sense and it doesn't fit the MC's character to rape her. Maybe she's a relative and it isn't an incest game. Maybe she's already someone's partner and it isn't a netori game.

lots of coomers in that game's thread will start moaning
Well that'd happen anyway, if she's like fuckable or unfuckable. :WeSmart: Coomers gonna coom.
 

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Many people here think every adult game's a porn game and should follow porn logic. Most games on this site probably are, but there are a few ones that are styled adult games but not porn games. These are often targeted with whining by the forever horny crowd.

It's probably true that it doesn't make the most commercial sense to reject porn logic, but most devs don't bring in loads of money anyway. Not everything has to be a money making effort, and it's sad if you think it has to be.




Most of what you write assumes that you are talking about a porn game, so a game where porn's the core purpose. Later you mention adult games, but I don't know if you assume all adult games are porn games. But you sure don't eliminate that impression.

There's any number of reasons it'd be a good idea, those reasons usually involve plot and narrative. You know, like, the stuff porn games absolutely suck at and most other adult games aren't doing too great either. Maybe she's an antagonist and a normal relation wouldn't make sense and it doesn't fit the MC's character to rape her. Maybe she's a relative and it isn't an incest game. Maybe she's already someone's partner and it isn't a netori game.


Well that'd happen anyway, if she's like fuckable or unfuckable. :WeSmart: Coomers gonna coom.
Let's keep it short. Just tell me, are you in favor of every woman in the game being fucked or not? I'm tired of listening to you being neutral.
 

Jaike

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